Gold Coast?

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Anonymous wrote:I had never heard of DC's gold coast, only the one in Chain Bridge- that name always stuck with me because it's high on the bluff along the coast of the Potomac and made sense as far as the name.

Rivers don't have 'coasts'. They have banks, bluffs, even shores. Not coasts. In English, at least in America.

The usage for real estate (as opposed to African places that export gold) is very loose (even for Chicago) and need not be associated with a body of water, which is why I think the gold coast in DC is called that. Though I don't here that name much anymore either - but never for the Chain Bridge area in Va - but I live in Alexandria. Maybe this is something only used in the area itself? Or only by realtors?

Or maybe it gets used by realtors, and then picked up by journalists writing about real estate, and then repeated by people who read what the journalists write...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/where-we-live/wp/2015/06/08/former-home-of-alexander-haig-returns-to-the-market/?utm_term=.a1605bd33544

https://www.washingtonian.com/2008/07/31/luxury-homes-august-2008/

http://washingtonlife.com/2007/06/01/the-2007-wealth-list/2/

evidently.

Three citations, of which two are from 2008 or earlier. Two of the three are real estate columns. The third is from a mag I've never heard of that focuses on the wealthy.

Which might explain why did not see them when googling on "gold coast virgina" In fact references to colonial era virginia and the african gold coast come up earlier. In contrast to googling on gold coast DC, which brings up lots of links to stories about the 16th street area.

So its a really obscure usage, mostly in high end real estate circles, versus a fairly widespread, if somewhat old fashioned usage.

Fair enough, but what's your point? The question has been all along whether another usage exists at all, and whether therefore the person who thought OP meant the area just across the river should be embarrassed or not. I think that is all PP was trying to prove.

The person who responded to OP said flat out that Gold Coast means the Chain Bridge area. No qualifications that it MIGHT mean something else. Being 100% certain of something, that turns out to be incorrect (IE Gold Coast, though occasionally used by a few RE pros in that area to mean McLean and N arlington, is WIDELY used for the 16th street area of DC) would embarrass me if I did it. Plus its likely the user is a RE pro themselves, given that is who primarily uses it that way - and for a real estate pro in the area to be that wrong about a widespread usage of the term in DC, would seem even more embarrassing.

TLDR - before you make a definitive, even slightly insulting statement, maybe google to make sure you are using terms correctly?

No, I do not think that everyone has to rule out other meanings of a term before responding based on the one they happen to know, just to avoid potentially hurting some overly sensitive person's feelings. This is an internet forum, not a scholarly discussion. What an incredibly self-centered thing to demand. You can come in and correct them, but there's no need to bully. Trump's America indeed.

FWIW, I hadn't heard of either meaning, and find it interesting to hear about the DC Gold Coast, while I don't care for the Virginia designation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I had never heard of DC's gold coast, only the one in Chain Bridge- that name always stuck with me because it's high on the bluff along the coast of the Potomac and made sense as far as the name.

Rivers don't have 'coasts'. They have banks, bluffs, even shores. Not coasts. In English, at least in America.

The usage for real estate (as opposed to African places that export gold) is very loose (even for Chicago) and need not be associated with a body of water, which is why I think the gold coast in DC is called that. Though I don't here that name much anymore either - but never for the Chain Bridge area in Va - but I live in Alexandria. Maybe this is something only used in the area itself? Or only by realtors?

Or maybe it gets used by realtors, and then picked up by journalists writing about real estate, and then repeated by people who read what the journalists write...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/where-we-live/wp/2015/06/08/former-home-of-alexander-haig-returns-to-the-market/?utm_term=.a1605bd33544

https://www.washingtonian.com/2008/07/31/luxury-homes-august-2008/

http://washingtonlife.com/2007/06/01/the-2007-wealth-list/2/

evidently.

Three citations, of which two are from 2008 or earlier. Two of the three are real estate columns. The third is from a mag I've never heard of that focuses on the wealthy.

Which might explain why did not see them when googling on "gold coast virgina" In fact references to colonial era virginia and the african gold coast come up earlier. In contrast to googling on gold coast DC, which brings up lots of links to stories about the 16th street area.

So its a really obscure usage, mostly in high end real estate circles, versus a fairly widespread, if somewhat old fashioned usage.

Fair enough, but what's your point? The question has been all along whether another usage exists at all, and whether therefore the person who thought OP meant the area just across the river should be embarrassed or not. I think that is all PP was trying to prove.

The person who responded to OP said flat out that Gold Coast means the Chain Bridge area. No qualifications that it MIGHT mean something else. Being 100% certain of something, that turns out to be incorrect (IE Gold Coast, though occasionally used by a few RE pros in that area to mean McLean and N arlington, is WIDELY used for the 16th street area of DC) would embarrass me if I did it. Plus its likely the user is a RE pro themselves, given that is who primarily uses it that way - and for a real estate pro in the area to be that wrong about a widespread usage of the term in DC, would seem even more embarrassing.

TLDR - before you make a definitive, even slightly insulting statement, maybe google to make sure you are using terms correctly?

No, I do not think that everyone has to rule out other meanings of a term before responding based on the one they happen to know, just to avoid potentially hurting some overly sensitive person's feelings. This is an internet forum, not a scholarly discussion. What an incredibly self-centered thing to demand. You can come in and correct them, but there's no need to bully. Trump's America indeed.

FWIW, I hadn't heard of either meaning, and find it interesting to hear about the DC Gold Coast, while I don't care for the Virginia designation.

Pardon, but I think "You can't afford anything there" was a little bullying. And really very silly, since it turns out OP COULD afford something on the actual Gold Coast.

If someone says that they are going to the beach in South Anywhereville, and which are the best waterfront hotels, its a really good idea to google and see if there are other South Anywherevilles, before you tell them to forget it, South Anywhereville is located inland and has no beaches. Maybe that's just me though.

[Anonymous]

BTW, in Trump's America people don't have to google things. They get to just make them up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I had never heard of DC's gold coast, only the one in Chain Bridge- that name always stuck with me because it's high on the bluff along the coast of the Potomac and made sense as far as the name.

Rivers don't have 'coasts'. They have banks, bluffs, even shores. Not coasts. In English, at least in America.

The usage for real estate (as opposed to African places that export gold) is very loose (even for Chicago) and need not be associated with a body of water, which is why I think the gold coast in DC is called that. Though I don't here that name much anymore either - but never for the Chain Bridge area in Va - but I live in Alexandria. Maybe this is something only used in the area itself? Or only by realtors?

Or maybe it gets used by realtors, and then picked up by journalists writing about real estate, and then repeated by people who read what the journalists write...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/where-we-live/wp/2015/06/08/former-home-of-alexander-haig-returns-to-the-market/?utm_term=.a1605bd33544

https://www.washingtonian.com/2008/07/31/luxury-homes-august-2008/

http://washingtonlife.com/2007/06/01/the-2007-wealth-list/2/

evidently.

Three citations, of which two are from 2008 or earlier. Two of the three are real estate columns. The third is from a mag I've never heard of that focuses on the wealthy.

Which might explain why did not see them when googling on "gold coast virgina" In fact references to colonial era virginia and the african gold coast come up earlier. In contrast to googling on gold coast DC, which brings up lots of links to stories about the 16th street area.

So its a really obscure usage, mostly in high end real estate circles, versus a fairly widespread, if somewhat old fashioned usage.

Fair enough, but what's your point? The question has been all along whether another usage exists at all, and whether therefore the person who thought OP meant the area just across the river should be embarrassed or not. I think that is all PP was trying to prove.

The person who responded to OP said flat out that Gold Coast means the Chain Bridge area. No qualifications that it MIGHT mean something else. Being 100% certain of something, that turns out to be incorrect (IE Gold Coast, though occasionally used by a few RE pros in that area to mean McLean and N arlington, is WIDELY used for the 16th street area of DC) would embarrass me if I did it. Plus its likely the user is a RE pro themselves, given that is who primarily uses it that way - and for a real estate pro in the area to be that wrong about a widespread usage of the term in DC, would seem even more embarrassing.

TLDR - before you make a definitive, even slightly insulting statement, maybe google to make sure you are using terms correctly?

No, I do not think that everyone has to rule out other meanings of a term before responding based on the one they happen to know, just to avoid potentially hurting some overly sensitive person's feelings. This is an internet forum, not a scholarly discussion. What an incredibly self-centered thing to demand. You can come in and correct them, but there's no need to bully. Trump's America indeed.

FWIW, I hadn't heard of either meaning, and find it interesting to hear about the DC Gold Coast, while I don't care for the Virginia designation.

Pardon, but I think "You can't afford anything there" was a little bullying. And really very silly, since it turns out OP COULD afford something on the actual Gold Coast.

If someone says that they are going to the beach in South Anywhereville, and which are the best waterfront hotels, its a really good idea to google and see if there are other South Anywherevilles, before you tell them to forget it, South Anywhereville is located inland and has no beaches. Maybe that's just me though.

You're just going after the low-hanging fruit. Most agree the first poster who responded to OP was rude and stuck his foot in his mouth.

But the conversation has since moved on, and some people continue to be unable to allow for the possibility that there are several areas in the DC region commonly referred to as the "Gold Coast."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had never heard of DC's gold coast, only the one in Chain Bridge- that name always stuck with me because it's high on the bluff along the coast of the Potomac and made sense as far as the name.

Rivers don't have 'coasts'. They have banks, bluffs, even shores. Not coasts. In English, at least in America.

The usage for real estate (as opposed to African places that export gold) is very loose (even for Chicago) and need not be associated with a body of water, which is why I think the gold coast in DC is called that. Though I don't here that name much anymore either - but never for the Chain Bridge area in Va - but I live in Alexandria. Maybe this is something only used in the area itself? Or only by realtors?

Or maybe it gets used by realtors, and then picked up by journalists writing about real estate, and then repeated by people who read what the journalists write...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/where-we-live/wp/2015/06/08/former-home-of-alexander-haig-returns-to-the-market/?utm_term=.a1605bd33544

https://www.washingtonian.com/2008/07/31/luxury-homes-august-2008/

http://washingtonlife.com/2007/06/01/the-2007-wealth-list/2/

evidently.

Three citations, of which two are from 2008 or earlier. Two of the three are real estate columns. The third is from a mag I've never heard of that focuses on the wealthy.

Which might explain why did not see them when googling on "gold coast virgina" In fact references to colonial era virginia and the african gold coast come up earlier. In contrast to googling on gold coast DC, which brings up lots of links to stories about the 16th street area.

So its a really obscure usage, mostly in high end real estate circles, versus a fairly widespread, if somewhat old fashioned usage.

Fair enough, but what's your point? The question has been all along whether another usage exists at all, and whether therefore the person who thought OP meant the area just across the river should be embarrassed or not. I think that is all PP was trying to prove.

The person who responded to OP said flat out that Gold Coast means the Chain Bridge area. No qualifications that it MIGHT mean something else. Being 100% certain of something, that turns out to be incorrect (IE Gold Coast, though occasionally used by a few RE pros in that area to mean McLean and N arlington, is WIDELY used for the 16th street area of DC) would embarrass me if I did it. Plus its likely the user is a RE pro themselves, given that is who primarily uses it that way - and for a real estate pro in the area to be that wrong about a widespread usage of the term in DC, would seem even more embarrassing.

TLDR - before you make a definitive, even slightly insulting statement, maybe google to make sure you are using terms correctly?

No, I do not think that everyone has to rule out other meanings of a term before responding based on the one they happen to know, just to avoid potentially hurting some overly sensitive person's feelings. This is an internet forum, not a scholarly discussion. What an incredibly self-centered thing to demand. You can come in and correct them, but there's no need to bully. Trump's America indeed.

FWIW, I hadn't heard of either meaning, and find it interesting to hear about the DC Gold Coast, while I don't care for the Virginia designation.

Pardon, but I think "You can't afford anything there" was a little bullying. And really very silly, since it turns out OP COULD afford something on the actual Gold Coast.

If someone says that they are going to the beach in South Anywhereville, and which are the best waterfront hotels, its a really good idea to google and see if there are other South Anywherevilles, before you tell them to forget it, South Anywhereville is located inland and has no beaches. Maybe that's just me though.

You're just going after the low-hanging fruit. Most agree the first poster who responded to OP was rude and stuck his foot in his mouth.

But the conversation has since moved on, and some people continue to be unable to allow for the possibility that there are several areas in the DC region commonly referred to as the "Gold Coast."

"Most agree" that the first PP "was rude and stuck his foot in his mouth," but the subsequent PP that said he was probably embarrassed was "bullying"? Wow, these goalposts are portable!

[Anonymous]

I am black, not from here, not THAT old and I have long known about the DC Gold Coast. I suspect OP is black which is likely why they were told to look in that area but I am OK being wrong.

The rest of this nonsense.

[Anonymous]

How many Mainlines are there in Philly? Are there two Harlems?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How many Mainlines are there in Philly? Are there two Harlems?

Yes, there are certainly more than one Harlems.

This forum is not just read by the black bourgeoisie.

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Anonymous wrote:How many Mainlines are there in Philly? Are there two Harlems?

Yes, there are certainly more than one Harlems.

This forum is not just read by the black bourgeoisie.

All the Harlems in NY are adjacent. East Harlem ("Spanish Harlem") and West and Central Harlem (sometimes grouped together).

The only other Harlem/Haarlem I know of are outside greater NY. Notably Haarlem in the Netherlands, for which Harlem in NY is named.

(I am white, if that matters)

[Anonymous]

I just looked back and saw that OP's budget is $2800. This whole discussion then may be moot, as unfortunately that budget likely won't go far in the "Gold Coast" of DC, at least not for most of the housing stock, which are SFHs. For example, I know my neighbors are renting out their home for $4500. I also found one other nearby rental:

http://www.zillow.com/homes/for_rent/Shepherd-Park-Washington-DC/house,mobile,townhouse_type/54656356_zpid/121786_rid/38.994222,-77.015899,38.969936,-77.046798_rect/14_zm/

[Anonymous]

I'm the original PP and I'm not embarrassed. I still think I'm right and VA is the only "Gold Coast" that should be referred to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm the original PP and I'm not embarrassed. I still think I'm right and VA is the only "Gold Coast" that should be referred to.

No you're not, but I appreciate the attempt to get this post to 200!

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Anonymous wrote:I'm the original PP and I'm not embarrassed. I still think I'm right and VA is the only "Gold Coast" that should be referred to.

No you're not, but I appreciate the attempt to get this post to 200!

Just doing my part to help Jeff fund his retirement.

[jsteele]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm the original PP and I'm not embarrassed. I still think I'm right and VA is the only "Gold Coast" that should be referred to.

No you're not, but I appreciate the attempt to get this post to 200!

Just doing my part to help Jeff fund his retirement.

LOL! Ironically, I live in the Gold Coast. But I'll let you guess which one.

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Anonymous wrote:I've lived in DC for a decade and have never heard of anyone refer to the "Gold Coast" except to refer to Arlington/mcclean by the river.

NP who is embarrassed to say I have lived here since 1994, 3 of those years in Cleveland Park, 15 on Capitol Hill, and the rest in Arlington, and I've never heard any neighborhood in the DC area referred to as "the Gold Coast." (Well, I'm not really embarrassed about the VA Gold Coast, but I am embarrassed not to know of a historic neighborhood in DC.)

I've heard it, but not often - I think its a fairly old fashioned name for the area.

NP. Absolutely not true. Gold Coast (in DC) is still as prevelant as ever. It's a fixed term deeply rooted in native DC/black terminology. It's as common as saying you live by the big chair.

I'm the embarrassed PP above. I know the big chair well. Our vet's office is by there.