Gold Coast?

[Anonymous]

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FWIW that area along Potomac Ave is in DC Palisades. Sometimes when I would name my neighborhood, people would think I was referring to some place up in MD. I never got in a tizzy, just acknowledged that there must be more than one.

There is more than one! There's a big high rise in downtown Bethesda called the Palisades, and also a neighborhood off MacArthur just before Persimmon Tree known as the Palisades. But they are much lesser known than the DC neighborhood, in the same way that the McLean/North Arlington Gold Coast is much lesser known than the neighborhood in DC.

The Gold Coast of McLean is not lesser know and let's not act like it is out by ashburn, the Gold Coast touches DC on its western boarder. It is closer to many of the nicer areas of DC like Georgetown, spring valley and the whole river valley such as the mall. I don't find it surprising that the one small pocket of legacy upper middle class African Americans in the city up by Silver Spring might not resonate with most residents where the strip of some of the finest homes in the city in DC's most geographically stunning location might.

I am not black. I am white skinned (dark hair though) and all my grandparents came from Europe. I have lived in NoVa since I moved to this area. However I do not live in the so-called NoVa Gold Coast, and I do spend a fair amount of time in DC, and I have an interest in local history and geography. And I have lived in this area over 20 years.

I have never heard of the Chain Bridge area being called the Gold Coast any time before reading this thread.

I am at least vaguely aware of the 16th street area being called the gold coast.

And again, googling, shows many references to the DC area. Almost none for the NoVa area.

Not every area that has elite homes is called a gold coast.

Part of it may be that the last major discussion of the "gold coast" in the main stream media was when Ron Brown, Secretary of Commerce under Clinton, and quite affluent black man, lived there. Newcomers since have not seen it in the media. So they go by whatever someone tells them (I once heard someone claim that St Michaels was on the Western Shore - he got shore and coast confused - bays have shores, land bodies have coasts - its the eastern shore of the chesapeake, western coast of the Delmarva - not everything some uninformed person says is correct).

But again, the problem with the first response to OP was not that she thought there was another gold coast - it was how definitive they were.

"its not what you don't know that makes you a fool, its what you know that isn't so"

So you are pretentious but still ignorant about local real estate. Nothing to be proud of there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I live in DC, and vastly prefer it to all of NOVA, but, I too have heard of that stretch of Arlington/McLean from Chain Bridge up along the Potomac side on Chain Bridge Road to the GW Parkway called the "Gold Coast" because it is $$$ real estate and overlooks the river. Its inhabited by people like the Saudi Ambassador, Kennedys, and Tech billionaires.

Isnt it possible that both are correct?

No, not historically. I'm a second generation Washingtonian and have NEVER heard of this nonsense. And I live in Nova now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

FWIW that area along Potomac Ave is in DC Palisades. Sometimes when I would name my neighborhood, people would think I was referring to some place up in MD. I never got in a tizzy, just acknowledged that there must be more than one.

There is more than one! There's a big high rise in downtown Bethesda called the Palisades, and also a neighborhood off MacArthur just before Persimmon Tree known as the Palisades. But they are much lesser known than the DC neighborhood, in the same way that the McLean/North Arlington Gold Coast is much lesser known than the neighborhood in DC.

The Gold Coast of McLean is not lesser know and let's not act like it is out by ashburn, the Gold Coast touches DC on its western boarder. It is closer to many of the nicer areas of DC like Georgetown, spring valley and the whole river valley such as the mall. I don't find it surprising that the one small pocket of legacy upper middle class African Americans in the city up by Silver Spring might not resonate with most residents where the strip of some of the finest homes in the city in DC's most geographically stunning location might.

I am not black. I am white skinned (dark hair though) and all my grandparents came from Europe. I have lived in NoVa since I moved to this area. However I do not live in the so-called NoVa Gold Coast, and I do spend a fair amount of time in DC, and I have an interest in local history and geography. And I have lived in this area over 20 years.

I have never heard of the Chain Bridge area being called the Gold Coast any time before reading this thread.

I am at least vaguely aware of the 16th street area being called the gold coast.

And again, googling, shows many references to the DC area. Almost none for the NoVa area.

Not every area that has elite homes is called a gold coast.

Part of it may be that the last major discussion of the "gold coast" in the main stream media was when Ron Brown, Secretary of Commerce under Clinton, and quite affluent black man, lived there. Newcomers since have not seen it in the media. So they go by whatever someone tells them (I once heard someone claim that St Michaels was on the Western Shore - he got shore and coast confused - bays have shores, land bodies have coasts - its the eastern shore of the chesapeake, western coast of the Delmarva - not everything some uninformed person says is correct).

But again, the problem with the first response to OP was not that she thought there was another gold coast - it was how definitive they were.

"its not what you don't know that makes you a fool, its what you know that isn't so"

So you are pretentious but still ignorant about local real estate. Nothing to be proud of there.

If an ability to google, and quoting Twain makes me pretentious, then so be it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I live in DC, and vastly prefer it to all of NOVA, but, I too have heard of that stretch of Arlington/McLean from Chain Bridge up along the Potomac side on Chain Bridge Road to the GW Parkway called the "Gold Coast" because it is $$$ real estate and overlooks the river. Its inhabited by people like the Saudi Ambassador, Kennedys, and Tech billionaires.

Isnt it possible that both are correct?

No, not historically. I'm a second generation Washingtonian and have NEVER heard of this nonsense. And I live in Nova now.

What nonsense, the "Gold Coast" in DC by the park? I'd never heard of that nonsense either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I live in DC, and vastly prefer it to all of NOVA, but, I too have heard of that stretch of Arlington/McLean from Chain Bridge up along the Potomac side on Chain Bridge Road to the GW Parkway called the "Gold Coast" because it is $$$ real estate and overlooks the river. Its inhabited by people like the Saudi Ambassador, Kennedys, and Tech billionaires.

Isnt it possible that both are correct?

No, not historically. I'm a second generation Washingtonian and have NEVER heard of this nonsense. And I live in Nova now.

What nonsense, the "Gold Coast" in DC by the park? I'd never heard of that nonsense either.

This term for several upper 16th St. NW neighborhoods has been around for decades. Check out this 1985 NYT article on the topic:

http://www.nytimes.com/1985/05/19/us/the-shifting-gold-coast.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I live in DC, and vastly prefer it to all of NOVA, but, I too have heard of that stretch of Arlington/McLean from Chain Bridge up along the Potomac side on Chain Bridge Road to the GW Parkway called the "Gold Coast" because it is $$$ real estate and overlooks the river. Its inhabited by people like the Saudi Ambassador, Kennedys, and Tech billionaires.

Isnt it possible that both are correct?

No, not historically. I'm a second generation Washingtonian and have NEVER heard of this nonsense. And I live in Nova now.

What nonsense, the "Gold Coast" in DC by the park? I'd never heard of that nonsense either.

This term for several upper 16th St. NW neighborhoods has been around for decades. Check out this 1985 NYT article on the topic:

http://www.nytimes.com/1985/05/19/us/the-shifting-gold-coast.html

That article has been posted already in this thread, but the previous PP is likely the one that first responded and somehow, obtusely maintains that there is ONLY ONE Gold Coast in the DC area and that it is in VA. The DC one doesn't exist to that PP despite the fact that it does and has to thousands and thousands people for over 50 years.

[Anonymous]

How is this thread STILL going? Nobody's said anything new for pages.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How is this thread STILL going? Nobody's said anything new for pages.

Well, I think it's kind of interesting that Ivanka Trump's family is inquiring about Ohev Shalom, which is on the "Gold Coast" of DC (predominantly AA area with a large and growing Jewish contingent).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How is this thread STILL going? Nobody's said anything new for pages.

Well, I think it's kind of interesting that Ivanka Trump's family is inquiring about Ohev Shalom, which is on the "Gold Coast" of DC (predominantly AA area with a large and growing Jewish contingent).

I think there's always been a sizable Jewish population up there EoTP. Many of the WoTP NW, MoCo, and VA neighborhoods had covenants against Jewish buyers. MoCo was one of the first to relax the covenants, plus Jewish developers bought land to specifically cater to Jewish buyers. This is why there's a strong Jewish community in MoCo but relatively few in NoVA. NoVA had restrictive covenants until the 70s in some neighborhoods

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How is this thread STILL going? Nobody's said anything new for pages.

Well, I think it's kind of interesting that Ivanka Trump's family is inquiring about Ohev Shalom, which is on the "Gold Coast" of DC (predominantly AA area with a large and growing Jewish contingent).

I think there's always been a sizable Jewish population up there EoTP. Many of the WoTP NW, MoCo, and VA neighborhoods had covenants against Jewish buyers. MoCo was one of the first to relax the covenants, plus Jewish developers bought land to specifically cater to Jewish buyers. This is why there's a strong Jewish community in MoCo but relatively few in NoVA. NoVA had restrictive covenants until the 70s in some neighborhoods

PP here. I meant to specify that the growing Jewish community is in the immediate vicinity of Ohev Shalom, and I've heard it's been growing over the past 10 years or so (I'm not sure if it's growing in the rest of the Gold Coast). Also TI is across the street from Ohev.

[Anonymous]

So there is a Gold Coast for African Americans in DC, and there is a Gold Coast for white people in NoVa...

Done. No need for ten pages of comments on this people. There can be two Gold Coasts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So there is a Gold Coast for African Americans in DC, and there is a Gold Coast for white people in NoVa...

Done. No need for ten pages of comments on this people. There can be two Gold Coasts.

Maybe. I've only heard of the one in McLean, though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So there is a Gold Coast for African Americans in DC, and there is a Gold Coast for white people in NoVa...

Done. No need for ten pages of comments on this people. There can be two Gold Coasts.

Maybe. I've only heard of the one in McLean, though.

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You must live in that bubble they keep talking about.