So, apparently I have raised a "geography snob".

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Anonymous wrote:OP, my God listen to your DC. Your DC is telling you where things would be comfortable. YOU are the one being unreasonable about geography! DC is going to college, not you!

My AA DC refuses to consider certain states in the south, some very north New England states, Idaho, and a few others. DC has give powerful arguments why no college applications will be submitted in those locations, and I understand completely and won't force the issue.

I certainly don't consider DC a 'geography snob' but more so being realistic of expectations and certainly not preconceived notions. We visited one college in a significant ethnic majority town and met with stares, not mean but more curious. DC's response was 'I am not a zoo animal. I want to leave.'. There are many, many locations that will be more conducive to my DC's geographical needs.

I totally agree with the PP. I would not feel comfortable sending my child to school in a town full of black or brown people.

Guess you won't be ending your child to NYC (Columbia et al) Philadelphia (Penn), Chicago (UofC), Houston (Rice), Cleveland (Case Western), LA (UCLA, USC), Oakland/Berkeley, Atlanta (Emory), and tons more.

However, there are many schools that will be a 'fit' for you.

Add Johns Hopkins

And Duke

[Anonymous]

I like your plan of having him visit some schools far away. If you can afford it, visit a good variation--small schools, large state schools, urban areas, more sparse areas. I was recruited for a sport and my dad, who was very knowledgeable about what kind of schools I could realistically get a scholarship from, made me visit all kinds of schools whether I wanted to or not. I ended up choosing a school I never would have chosen without a visit. Although it was a school a little out of my comfort zone, I adapted and made great friends. In the end he can make his own decision, but I think you should force a little exposure out of HIS comfort zone. It worked for me.

[Anonymous]

OP here again,

For example, like a PP's kid, my son isn't comfortable in places where he would be part the only AA student. He cares less about campus ratios than about the surrounding community. That's fine, I'm happy to help him explore the demographics of schools and communities. However, he has decided that this is a reason to rule out any colleges in states that "begin with I". Now, if he'd said that to me about a college in rural Idaho, or an all white community in Iowa, I would have agreed. But the school he was objecting to is in downtown Chicago. I'm not at all sure that particular school is a good fit, but "corn" and "white people" are not good reasons for rejecting it!

I could have sworn I posted this in Tweens and Teens, and it may have been moved. This isn't really about where my kid goes to college. If, after we've looked at local schools and he has a better sense of size and details about what he wants in his major, I still think that the Chicago or Kentucky schools are a fit, I can drag him out there and let him make his own decision after he sees it. Like I said, his major is rare enough that his list of schools to look at will be short anyway. My real concern is about not wanting my kid to grow up to be the kind of person who isn't curious about other places, who dismisses states as "flyover country". I know that some of this is immaturity, and some is that the college search is, to him, quite anxiety provoking and so he's retreating to what makes him feel safe. But I also see enough posts here, and hear enough comments in real life, to know that there are people who don't move out of their comfort zone even as adults.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here again,

For example, like a PP's kid, my son isn't comfortable in places where he would be part the only AA student. He cares less about campus ratios than about the surrounding community. That's fine, I'm happy to help him explore the demographics of schools and communities. However, he has decided that this is a reason to rule out any colleges in states that "begin with I". Now, if he'd said that to me about a college in rural Idaho, or an all white community in Iowa, I would have agreed. But the school he was objecting to is in downtown Chicago. I'm not at all sure that particular school is a good fit, but "corn" and "white people" are not good reasons for rejecting it!

I could have sworn I posted this in Tweens and Teens, and it may have been moved. This isn't really about where my kid goes to college. If, after we've looked at local schools and he has a better sense of size and details about what he wants in his major, I still think that the Chicago or Kentucky schools are a fit, I can drag him out there and let him make his own decision after he sees it. Like I said, his major is rare enough that his list of schools to look at will be short anyway. My real concern is about not wanting my kid to grow up to be the kind of person who isn't curious about other places, who dismisses states as "flyover country". I know that some of this is immaturity, and some is that the college search is, to him, quite anxiety provoking and so he's retreating to what makes him feel safe. But I also see enough posts here, and hear enough comments in real life, to know that there are people who don't move out of their comfort zone even as adults.

Yeah, this makes no sense. Clearly he's never been to Chicago. But maybe that's not really the reason he is rejecting these schools. Maybe he doesn't quite know why he doesn't like a particular school, or maybe he doesn't want to have a discussion about it. Maybe his reasons for not liking a school are ones that he knows you will disagree with, so he comes up with some random reason like "corn".

[Anonymous]

If your son has the opportunity to afford a school in a better area take it. UC San Diego and Santa Barbara attracts top students because of its location. If I could do it over again I would pick a school based off of location.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, my God listen to your DC. Your DC is telling you where things would be comfortable. YOU are the one being unreasonable about geography! DC is going to college, not you!

My AA DC refuses to consider certain states in the south, some very north New England states, Idaho, and a few others. DC has give powerful arguments why no college applications will be submitted in those locations, and I understand completely and won't force the issue.

I certainly don't consider DC a 'geography snob' but more so being realistic of expectations and certainly not preconceived notions. We visited one college in a significant ethnic majority town and met with stares, not mean but more curious. DC's response was 'I am not a zoo animal. I want to leave.'. There are many, many locations that will be more conducive to my DC's geographical needs.

I totally agree with the PP. I would not feel comfortable sending my child to school in a town full of black or brown people.

You are trash.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, my God listen to your DC. Your DC is telling you where things would be comfortable. YOU are the one being unreasonable about geography! DC is going to college, not you!

My AA DC refuses to consider certain states in the south, some very north New England states, Idaho, and a few others. DC has give powerful arguments why no college applications will be submitted in those locations, and I understand completely and won't force the issue.

I certainly don't consider DC a 'geography snob' but more so being realistic of expectations and certainly not preconceived notions. We visited one college in a significant ethnic majority town and met with stares, not mean but more curious. DC's response was 'I am not a zoo animal. I want to leave.'. There are many, many locations that will be more conducive to my DC's geographical needs.

I totally agree with the PP. I would not feel comfortable sending my child to school in a town full of black or brown people.

You are trash.

Double standard much?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here again,

For example, like a PP's kid, my son isn't comfortable in places where he would be part the only AA student. He cares less about campus ratios than about the surrounding community. That's fine, I'm happy to help him explore the demographics of schools and communities. However, he has decided that this is a reason to rule out any colleges in states that "begin with I". Now, if he'd said that to me about a college in rural Idaho, or an all white community in Iowa, I would have agreed. But the school he was objecting to is in downtown Chicago. I'm not at all sure that particular school is a good fit, but "corn" and "white people" are not good reasons for rejecting it!

I could have sworn I posted this in Tweens and Teens, and it may have been moved. This isn't really about where my kid goes to college. If, after we've looked at local schools and he has a better sense of size and details about what he wants in his major, I still think that the Chicago or Kentucky schools are a fit, I can drag him out there and let him make his own decision after he sees it. Like I said, his major is rare enough that his list of schools to look at will be short anyway. My real concern is about not wanting my kid to grow up to be the kind of person who isn't curious about other places, who dismisses states as "flyover country". I know that some of this is immaturity, and some is that the college search is, to him, quite anxiety provoking and so he's retreating to what makes him feel safe. But I also see enough posts here, and hear enough comments in real life, to know that there are people who don't move out of their comfort zone even as adults.

I don't know of any campus in the US where he would be the only AA student. Not even Brigham Young is that white.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, my God listen to your DC. Your DC is telling you where things would be comfortable. YOU are the one being unreasonable about geography! DC is going to college, not you!

My AA DC refuses to consider certain states in the south, some very north New England states, Idaho, and a few others. DC has give powerful arguments why no college applications will be submitted in those locations, and I understand completely and won't force the issue.

I certainly don't consider DC a 'geography snob' but more so being realistic of expectations and certainly not preconceived notions. We visited one college in a significant ethnic majority town and met with stares, not mean but more curious. DC's response was 'I am not a zoo animal. I want to leave.'. There are many, many locations that will be more conducive to my DC's geographical needs.

I totally agree with the PP. I would not feel comfortable sending my child to school in a town full of black or brown people.

You are trash.

Double standard much?

There's a difference between a black girl feeling like a 'zoo animal' in an almost all-white town (that likely has a history of white supremacist racism) and racist white people not wanting their lily-white children being around POC. If you can't see the difference you are likely a Trump supporter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here again,

For example, like a PP's kid, my son isn't comfortable in places where he would be part the only AA student. He cares less about campus ratios than about the surrounding community. That's fine, I'm happy to help him explore the demographics of schools and communities. However, he has decided that this is a reason to rule out any colleges in states that "begin with I". Now, if he'd said that to me about a college in rural Idaho, or an all white community in Iowa, I would have agreed. But the school he was objecting to is in downtown Chicago. I'm not at all sure that particular school is a good fit, but "corn" and "white people" are not good reasons for rejecting it!

I could have sworn I posted this in Tweens and Teens, and it may have been moved. This isn't really about where my kid goes to college. If, after we've looked at local schools and he has a better sense of size and details about what he wants in his major, I still think that the Chicago or Kentucky schools are a fit, I can drag him out there and let him make his own decision after he sees it. Like I said, his major is rare enough that his list of schools to look at will be short anyway. My real concern is about not wanting my kid to grow up to be the kind of person who isn't curious about other places, who dismisses states as "flyover country". I know that some of this is immaturity, and some is that the college search is, to him, quite anxiety provoking and so he's retreating to what makes him feel safe. But I also see enough posts here, and hear enough comments in real life, to know that there are people who don't move out of their comfort zone even as adults.

I don't know of any campus in the US where he would be the only AA student. Not even Brigham Young is that white.

Not OP

Of course but there are college towns and communities that aren't friendly to POC and/or non-Christians. A Jewish student may not feel comfortable in rural Virginia and a Black student may not feel comfortable in the communities in some of the NE states.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, my God listen to your DC. Your DC is telling you where things would be comfortable. YOU are the one being unreasonable about geography! DC is going to college, not you!

My AA DC refuses to consider certain states in the south, some very north New England states, Idaho, and a few others. DC has give powerful arguments why no college applications will be submitted in those locations, and I understand completely and won't force the issue.

I certainly don't consider DC a 'geography snob' but more so being realistic of expectations and certainly not preconceived notions. We visited one college in a significant ethnic majority town and met with stares, not mean but more curious. DC's response was 'I am not a zoo animal. I want to leave.'. There are many, many locations that will be more conducive to my DC's geographical needs.

I totally agree with the PP. I would not feel comfortable sending my child to school in a town full of black or brown people.

You are trash.

Double standard much?

There's a difference between a black girl feeling like a 'zoo animal' in an almost all-white town (that likely has a history of white supremacist racism) and racist white people not wanting their lily-white children being around POC. If you can't see the difference you are likely a Trump supporter.

too funny... and you wonder why your DC turned out to be a snob. there is no difference. you just want to believe there is one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here again,

For example, like a PP's kid, my son isn't comfortable in places where he would be part the only AA student. He cares less about campus ratios than about the surrounding community. That's fine, I'm happy to help him explore the demographics of schools and communities. However, he has decided that this is a reason to rule out any colleges in states that "begin with I". Now, if he'd said that to me about a college in rural Idaho, or an all white community in Iowa, I would have agreed. But the school he was objecting to is in downtown Chicago. I'm not at all sure that particular school is a good fit, but "corn" and "white people" are not good reasons for rejecting it!

I could have sworn I posted this in Tweens and Teens, and it may have been moved. This isn't really about where my kid goes to college. If, after we've looked at local schools and he has a better sense of size and details about what he wants in his major, I still think that the Chicago or Kentucky schools are a fit, I can drag him out there and let him make his own decision after he sees it. Like I said, his major is rare enough that his list of schools to look at will be short anyway. My real concern is about not wanting my kid to grow up to be the kind of person who isn't curious about other places, who dismisses states as "flyover country". I know that some of this is immaturity, and some is that the college search is, to him, quite anxiety provoking and so he's retreating to what makes him feel safe. But I also see enough posts here, and hear enough comments in real life, to know that there are people who don't move out of their comfort zone even as adults.

Yeah, this makes no sense. Clearly he's never been to Chicago. But maybe that's not really the reason he is rejecting these schools. Maybe he doesn't quite know why he doesn't like a particular school, or maybe he doesn't want to have a discussion about it. Maybe his reasons for not liking a school are ones that he knows you will disagree with, so he comes up with some random reason like "corn".

I would be more concerned that you have raised a racist and a bigot. Geography is the least of your problems. Re-read your comment replacing "white" with " black" or "brown" and see how ugly your child's comments are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, my God listen to your DC. Your DC is telling you where things would be comfortable. YOU are the one being unreasonable about geography! DC is going to college, not you!

My AA DC refuses to consider certain states in the south, some very north New England states, Idaho, and a few others. DC has give powerful arguments why no college applications will be submitted in those locations, and I understand completely and won't force the issue.

I certainly don't consider DC a 'geography snob' but more so being realistic of expectations and certainly not preconceived notions. We visited one college in a significant ethnic majority town and met with stares, not mean but more curious. DC's response was 'I am not a zoo animal. I want to leave.'. There are many, many locations that will be more conducive to my DC's geographical needs.

I totally agree with the PP. I would not feel comfortable sending my child to school in a town full of black or brown people.

You are trash.

Double standard much?

There's a difference between a black girl feeling like a 'zoo animal' in an almost all-white town (that likely has a history of white supremacist racism) and racist white people not wanting their lily-white children being around POC. If you can't see the difference you are likely a Trump supporter.

too funny... and you wonder why your DC turned out to be a snob. there is no difference. you just want to believe there is one.

A. I'm not OP

B. Again, white people have created uncomfortable situations for black people since we've been here and when we tell you we are uncomfortable it's a problem. You clearly lack empathy and intelligence, so I'm moving on.

[Anonymous]

^ you need to stop thinking everyone (e.g., whites) is after you. they are not!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^ you need to stop thinking everyone (e.g., whites) is after you. they are not!!

Sure...

'Predominantly white institutions' are 'hotbeds of white supremacy,' prof warns

An Oklahoma State University professor says predominately white institutions (PWIs) are “hotbeds of white supremacy” and that black students must be prepared to be “treated like second-class citizens” if they attend a PWI.

http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=7969