PARCC Scores for Grades 3-8

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Anonymous wrote:NP. Have not been following PARCC threads until now. Can anyone recap how MoCo or other surrounding areas did vs. DC? I'm not one of those fleeing to the suburbs anytime soon--and my kid is several years away from any testing grades--but just curious.

VA doesn't use PARCC - they have their SOLs.

Maryland either didnt' give, or hasn't yet released grade 3-8 results yet. Here's a summary of the older kids' results focused on Montgomery County. http://www.bethesdamagazine.com/Bethesda-Beat/2015/As-Expected-MCPS-Students-Struggled-on-New-Statewide-Tests/

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I don't think MoCo has released the results for 3-8 yet.

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Anonymous wrote:The racial achievement gap is astounding.

According to http://www.dcpcsb.org/sites/default/files/dems2.pdf there were about 93 African American kids in charters in the district who scored a 5 on math and about 91 white kids, despite white kids only making up 6% of the student body at charters in those grades. In ELA, there were more white kids than black ones who scored a 5, even though whites are 5% of the enrollment (I don't know why whites were 5% for ELA and 6% for math). Is it just that well-off AA students go private and well-off white students use charters?

This is quite alarming. As a mother of a black boy at a "highly regarded" charter I am concerned. My DC is smart and we have decent income ($250) but not enough to comfortably afford private.

Stop being an alarmist. With your resources to provide tutoring and extras, your child will be fine. You have the same resources to provide for your child that the affluent white parents provide for their children, kumon, Huntington, khan academy, sylvan, etc. It's just that your AA child's high numbers will be knocked out by three AA children who are poor and unable to receive tutoring, etc. I don't think you can make a fair comparison. I am sure that my child's individual scores are 4s and 5s, but when the numbers come out, his numbers will mean very little when lumped in with all the poor AA children in this city.

The bigger issue is that you high achieving boy will be surrounded by peers are not high-achieving, which 1) could drag down your boy's motivation to succeed, and 2) could mean that teachers/others set the same low expectations for your boy that they give the other boys in his class.

Now I have thought about that, and so far that has not been the case. Of course I am watching and will definitely reassess if I find what you mentioned occurring. He just started fifth grade at Latin and I love the school's curriculum. I'm hoping it can take him all the way through with continued high expectations. I could use any money that I would have spent on private school for college.

Not being an alarmist at all. Let's take your school, Latin. Latin had 2 black kids score advanced in math and 6 that scored advanced in English. Only 48 poor students at Latin (129 black). Don't you think the non poor students at Latin have those things at their disposal as well? My high income black friends that go WOTP go to schools like Lafayette and Murch (also had only1-4 black students score advanced). Even if you assume that all 48 FARM students are black (which you can't), that leaves 81 non poor black students and only 2 kids that were advanced from that pool. Those numbers are not good.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The racial achievement gap is astounding.

According to http://www.dcpcsb.org/sites/default/files/dems2.pdf there were about 93 African American kids in charters in the district who scored a 5 on math and about 91 white kids, despite white kids only making up 6% of the student body at charters in those grades. In ELA, there were more white kids than black ones who scored a 5, even though whites are 5% of the enrollment (I don't know why whites were 5% for ELA and 6% for math). Is it just that well-off AA students go private and well-off white students use charters?

This is quite alarming. As a mother of a black boy at a "highly regarded" charter I am concerned. My DC is smart and we have decent income ($250) but not enough to comfortably afford private.

Stop being an alarmist. With your resources to provide tutoring and extras, your child will be fine. You have the same resources to provide for your child that the affluent white parents provide for their children, kumon, Huntington, khan academy, sylvan, etc. It's just that your AA child's high numbers will be knocked out by three AA children who are poor and unable to receive tutoring, etc. I don't think you can make a fair comparison. I am sure that my child's individual scores are 4s and 5s, but when the numbers come out, his numbers will mean very little when lumped in with all the poor AA children in this city.

The bigger issue is that you high achieving boy will be surrounded by peers are not high-achieving, which 1) could drag down your boy's motivation to succeed, and 2) could mean that teachers/others set the same low expectations for your boy that they give the other boys in his class.

Now I have thought about that, and so far that has not been the case. Of course I am watching and will definitely reassess if I find what you mentioned occurring. He just started fifth grade at Latin and I love the school's curriculum. I'm hoping it can take him all the way through with continued high expectations. I could use any money that I would have spent on private school for college.

Not being an alarmist at all. Let's take your school, Latin. Latin had 2 black kids score advanced in math and 6 that scored advanced in English. Only 48 poor students at Latin (129 black). Don't you think the non poor students at Latin have those things at their disposal as well? My high income black friends that go WOTP go to schools like Lafayette and Murch (also had only1-4 black students score advanced). Even if you assume that all 48 FARM students are black (which you can't), that leaves 81 non poor black students and only 2 kids that were advanced from that pool. Those numbers are not good.

Yes the white black achievement gap cannot be completely explained by ses. lots of complex factors like expectations of peers and teachers. self identity. ect.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The racial achievement gap is astounding.

According to http://www.dcpcsb.org/sites/default/files/dems2.pdf there were about 93 African American kids in charters in the district who scored a 5 on math and about 91 white kids, despite white kids only making up 6% of the student body at charters in those grades. In ELA, there were more white kids than black ones who scored a 5, even though whites are 5% of the enrollment (I don't know why whites were 5% for ELA and 6% for math). Is it just that well-off AA students go private and well-off white students use charters?

This is quite alarming. As a mother of a black boy at a "highly regarded" charter I am concerned. My DC is smart and we have decent income ($250) but not enough to comfortably afford private.

Stop being an alarmist. With your resources to provide tutoring and extras, your child will be fine. You have the same resources to provide for your child that the affluent white parents provide for their children, kumon, Huntington, khan academy, sylvan, etc. It's just that your AA child's high numbers will be knocked out by three AA children who are poor and unable to receive tutoring, etc. I don't think you can make a fair comparison. I am sure that my child's individual scores are 4s and 5s, but when the numbers come out, his numbers will mean very little when lumped in with all the poor AA children in this city.

The bigger issue is that you high achieving boy will be surrounded by peers are not high-achieving, which 1) could drag down your boy's motivation to succeed, and 2) could mean that teachers/others set the same low expectations for your boy that they give the other boys in his class.

Now I have thought about that, and so far that has not been the case. Of course I am watching and will definitely reassess if I find what you mentioned occurring. He just started fifth grade at Latin and I love the school's curriculum. I'm hoping it can take him all the way through with continued high expectations. I could use any money that I would have spent on private school for college.

Not being an alarmist at all. Let's take your school, Latin. Latin had 2 black kids score advanced in math and 6 that scored advanced in English. Only 48 poor students at Latin (129 black). Don't you think the non poor students at Latin have those things at their disposal as well? My high income black friends that go WOTP go to schools like Lafayette and Murch (also had only1-4 black students score advanced). Even if you assume that all 48 FARM students are black (which you can't), that leaves 81 non poor black students and only 2 kids that were advanced from that pool. Those numbers are not good.

Yes the white black achievement gap cannot be completely explained by ses. lots of complex factors like expectations of peers and teachers. self identity. ect.

So what's the answer? Certainly not Moco. They don't seem much better with black performance. Friends at private have families assume they are scholarship students, can't imagine the expectations are much higher.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The racial achievement gap is astounding.

According to http://www.dcpcsb.org/sites/default/files/dems2.pdf there were about 93 African American kids in charters in the district who scored a 5 on math and about 91 white kids, despite white kids only making up 6% of the student body at charters in those grades. In ELA, there were more white kids than black ones who scored a 5, even though whites are 5% of the enrollment (I don't know why whites were 5% for ELA and 6% for math). Is it just that well-off AA students go private and well-off white students use charters?

This is quite alarming. As a mother of a black boy at a "highly regarded" charter I am concerned. My DC is smart and we have decent income ($250) but not enough to comfortably afford private.

Stop being an alarmist. With your resources to provide tutoring and extras, your child will be fine. You have the same resources to provide for your child that the affluent white parents provide for their children, kumon, Huntington, khan academy, sylvan, etc. It's just that your AA child's high numbers will be knocked out by three AA children who are poor and unable to receive tutoring, etc. I don't think you can make a fair comparison. I am sure that my child's individual scores are 4s and 5s, but when the numbers come out, his numbers will mean very little when lumped in with all the poor AA children in this city.

The bigger issue is that you high achieving boy will be surrounded by peers are not high-achieving, which 1) could drag down your boy's motivation to succeed, and 2) could mean that teachers/others set the same low expectations for your boy that they give the other boys in his class.

Now I have thought about that, and so far that has not been the case. Of course I am watching and will definitely reassess if I find what you mentioned occurring. He just started fifth grade at Latin and I love the school's curriculum. I'm hoping it can take him all the way through with continued high expectations. I could use any money that I would have spent on private school for college.

Not being an alarmist at all. Let's take your school, Latin. Latin had 2 black kids score advanced in math and 6 that scored advanced in English. Only 48 poor students at Latin (129 black). Don't you think the non poor students at Latin have those things at their disposal as well? My high income black friends that go WOTP go to schools like Lafayette and Murch (also had only1-4 black students score advanced). Even if you assume that all 48 FARM students are black (which you can't), that leaves 81 non poor black students and only 2 kids that were advanced from that pool. Those numbers are not good.

Yes the white black achievement gap cannot be completely explained by ses. lots of complex factors like expectations of peers and teachers. self identity. ect.

In a study before taking a test, 1/2 black kids in experiment group are told that black kids tend to do worse on this test; the1/2 black kids in control group are not told that. The black kids in the control group out perform the black kids in the experiment group. So imagine you are a black kid (middle class, high ses) growing up in this society. How many times are you told subtly and explicitly that black kids tend to do worse at X Y Z. You want a school with experience counteracting these messages.

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Anonymous wrote:Aggregate for WOTP
Janney ES 74%
Ross ES 73%
Lafayette ES 72%
Mann ES 71%
Eaton ES 69%
Murch ES 68%
Key ES 65%
Oyster Adams Bilingual School 52%
Hearst ES 42%

The bolded are the only two that are significantly off.

Well, guess this is as good as it gets for public schools in DC. We are outta here!

Ha! Where are you going? Moco where they had scores in the 30s? Just calm down, this is a brand new test that was bombed by every state that took it.

Private. We had always planned on it past elementary but this just reinforces our decision.

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Fewer than 7 pages for DCUm to do what DCUM does and derail the PARCC thread. Well done.

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Anonymous wrote:Aggregate for WOTP
Janney ES 74%
Ross ES 73%
Lafayette ES 72%
Mann ES 71%
Eaton ES 69%
Murch ES 68%
Key ES 65%
Oyster Adams Bilingual School 52%
Hearst ES 42%

The bolded are the only two that are significantly off.

Well, guess this is as good as it gets for public schools in DC. We are outta here!

Ha! Where are you going? Moco where they had scores in the 30s? Just calm down, this is a brand new test that was bombed by every state that took it.

Exactly. And, BTW, the white students at Hearst scored on par or higher than that demographic at some JKLMMKS schools (sorry if this sounds ugly, but not sure how else to say it).

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Anonymous wrote:Aggregate for WOTP
Janney ES 74%
Ross ES 73%
Lafayette ES 72%
Mann ES 71%
Eaton ES 69%
Murch ES 68%
Key ES 65%
Oyster Adams Bilingual School 52%
Hearst ES 42%

The bolded are the only two that are significantly off.

Well, guess this is as good as it gets for public schools in DC. We are outta here!

Ha! Where are you going? Moco where they had scores in the 30s? Just calm down, this is a brand new test that was bombed by every state that took it.

Exactly. And, BTW, the white students at Hearst scored on par or higher than that demographic at some JKLMMKS schools (sorry if this sounds ugly, but not sure how else to say it).

Considering the demographics and accolades about Deal, why are there scores so bad?

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Anonymous wrote:Aggregate for WOTP
Janney ES 74%
Ross ES 73%
Lafayette ES 72%
Mann ES 71%
Eaton ES 69%
Murch ES 68%
Key ES 65%
Oyster Adams Bilingual School 52%
Hearst ES 42%

The bolded are the only two that are significantly off.

Well, guess this is as good as it gets for public schools in DC. We are outta here!

Ha! Where are you going? Moco where they had scores in the 30s? Just calm down, this is a brand new test that was bombed by every state that took it.

Exactly. And, BTW, the white students at Hearst scored on par or higher than that demographic at some JKLMMKS schools (sorry if this sounds ugly, but not sure how else to say it).

Considering the demographics and accolades about Deal, why are there scores so bad?

Deal gets accolades because it's the best middle school in DC. It's not like there are a lot of alternatives.

[Anonymous]

How does this really breakdown, we need to know how many kids entered already scoring high and where did they end up. If you entered middle school as a high elementary school scoring child, then how does that reflect on the middle school - only that they didn't make your scores worse. If on the other hand you entered the school as a low student but left as a high-scorning student, then kudos to the school. The only way this matters is we follow the child, and for parent making a decision about where to send their child, not because the teachers are any better but the kids in general are at a higher-level!!! SIGH

[Anonymous]

How did CHM@Logan get away with having no reportable data? If one didn't know better one might think they got enough kids to opt out to prevent anyone from figuring out if Montessori actually teaches anything beyond K.

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Anonymous wrote:How does this really breakdown, we need to know how many kids entered already scoring high and where did they end up. If you entered middle school as a high elementary school scoring child, then how does that reflect on the middle school - only that they didn't make your scores worse. If on the other hand you entered the school as a low student but left as a high-scorning student, then kudos to the school. The only way this matters is we follow the child, and for parent making a decision about where to send their child, not because the teachers are any better but the kids in general are at a higher-level!!! SIGH

Check mark for you. You have earned your DCPS union card for the day.

(Oh yeah, plus there's that other thing where the testing gets new and progressive material every year so you can see progression and whether the scores track in 7th, 8th, etc. But don't let data get in the way or your little narrative that testing cannot possibly tell us anything useful.)

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Anonymous wrote:How does this really breakdown, we need to know how many kids entered already scoring high and where did they end up. If you entered middle school as a high elementary school scoring child, then how does that reflect on the middle school - only that they didn't make your scores worse. If on the other hand you entered the school as a low student but left as a high-scorning student, then kudos to the school. The only way this matters is we follow the child, and for parent making a decision about where to send their child, not because the teachers are any better but the kids in general are at a higher-level!!! SIGH

Check mark for you. You have earned your DCPS union card for the day.

(Oh yeah, plus there's that other thing where the testing gets new and progressive material every year so you can see progression and whether the scores track in 7th, 8th, etc. But don't let data get in the way or your little narrative that testing cannot possibly tell us anything useful.)

So if a child enters school already high, you think the teacher should get credit for maintenance?