High IQ, average processing speed

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish I could meet (most of) you guys. I feel so lonely with my DS. It is a relief to hear that there are others like me out there. I love my DS. He is a great kid, and is going to have a wonderful life. But it is wearing having everybody assume he is an A+ student when he is a C student. It would be nice to meet with you guys and have somebody who would have some idea that I'm not lying, this really is possible.

I don't want to sound snarky but not working up to one's potential for whatever reason is not a special need. The world is full of A+ students who only earn Cs and if he is a "great kid... Going to have a wonderful life" - don't worry too much about his grades.

Did you actually read my post? I just said I wanted to talk to people who are in my situation. Obviously, that is not you. And, from your other posts, I probably could not truly appreciate what you are going through. However, why would you want to deny me something that might bring me comfort? I would never do that to you. I hope sincerely you have others you can talk to who will actually understand you. That is one of the consolations of life. I wouldn't deny this to anybody, no matter how different (or "less serious") their problem is than mine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish I could meet (most of) you guys. I feel so lonely with my DS. It is a relief to hear that there are others like me out there. I love my DS. He is a great kid, and is going to have a wonderful life. But it is wearing having everybody assume he is an A+ student when he is a C student. It would be nice to meet with you guys and have somebody who would have some idea that I'm not lying, this really is possible.

I don't want to sound snarky but not working up to one's potential for whatever reason is not a special need. The world is full of A+ students who only earn Cs and if he is a "great kid... Going to have a wonderful life" - don't worry too much about his grades.

Did you actually read my post? I just said I wanted to talk to people who are in my situation. Obviously, that is not you. And, from your other posts, I probably could not truly appreciate what you are going through. However, why would you want to deny me something that might bring me comfort? I would never do that to you. I hope sincerely you have others you can talk to who will actually understand you. That is one of the consolations of life. I wouldn't deny this to anybody, no matter how different (or "less serious") their problem is than mine.

not meaning yours is the problem that is "less serious". Yours is more serious. But, I would even wish Kate Middleton had somebody to talk to about whatever her problems are, for example (which is doubtful, as there can not really be many, if any, people in her situation)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP here:

I too am offended by this poster who seems to think this disability is all about getting some kind of academic advantage. I appreciate where you are coming from. I have a nephew with severe PDD/on the spectrum who will never be able to live on his own. But you just don't seem willing to understand a different disability. And this forum is not just for folks with kids such as your child. My son is 2e, plus ADHD and APD. What would you know of his struggle and grief, his profound anger and anxiety?

My child last year made a (fortunately unsuccessful) suicide attempt. How would you feel about getting 90s on tests yet being failed by teachers - with 5 Fs because you could not keep up the amount of work expected? To have the sped coordinator at school tell a 14 yo that he's lazy and needs to work harder? To watch a smart kid take an hour to write 7 or 8 sentences because organizing written language is excruciating? What would you know about trying to fit a child like this into a regular school system and the crappy things said to him and to you as the parent? DS will find a way to be successful someday, but do you realize how trapped this kid feels because so many jobs require quick problem solving and he can't do that?

If you think there needs to be a board that only supports parents with kids who are "disabled enough" in your opinion, go start one. Otherwise, if you comment on this thread again with your uninformed and insulting opinions about the very real issues that others grapple with, I will report you.

For others struggling with this, I hope this helps: https://www.sde.idaho.gov/site/gifted_talented/twice-exceptional/docs/2E%20Manual.pdf

I am sorry about your suicidal child. But "average processing speed" is not a special need.

No one is talking about average processing speed by itself.

Average processing speed in combination with very high verbal and analytical scores often if not most of the time constitutes a dx'd learning disability and therefore is a special need. My son fits this profile and has a dx'd LD for which he has a 504 plan at his MCPS high school. His working memory is below average and his executive function is terrible. He is seeing a psychiatrist for anxiety and depression. He is on Focalin. His grades are so-so.

He is by definition special needs.

You are by definition an ass.

+1000 to the last line. PP who thinks high GAI kids can't be SN-- YOU WIN the mOmyou my artery battle-- you're so much worse off than everybody else on this thread. You are hearby validated. No go the he** away And let the rest of this talk. Insulting a mom with a suicidal kids? WTF is wrong with you???

[Anonymous]

^mommy martyr battle, that is

[Anonymous]

It's fun to debate Donald Trump, with a moving target where creative details are added and the ante is upped at any time.

But I've completed lost track of who this thread is about.

The original post was about "High IQ, average processing speed" and the mom wanted to know if there were any other kids out there. She and other other posters related that private schools had allowed extra time for tests.

When some questioned whether this was a special need, the ante was upped to include the possibility of learning disabilities.

When some questioned again, the ante was upped to 2e.

When some questioned again, the ante was upped to include ADHD and/or ASD.

When some questioned again, the ante was upped to include suicide, depression, and severe anxiety.

When some questioned again, the ante was upped to include neurological disability.

We've now gone from high IQ, average processing speed kids (scoring 2400 on their SATs and going to college) to kids whose mothers maintain they have LDS, generalized anxiety disorder, ADHD, ASD, are suicidal and have neurological disabilities. If there actually are a group of such kids, after 11 years in the special needs community, I have yet to meet any of them. I do wish them luck because they sound profoundly impaired. But I suspect this post will result in fresh symptoms and disorders being added to the list of these poor kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's fun to debate Donald Trump, with a moving target where creative details are added and the ante is upped at any time.

But I've completed lost track of who this thread is about.

The original post was about "High IQ, average processing speed" and the mom wanted to know if there were any other kids out there. She and other other posters related that private schools had allowed extra time for tests.

When some questioned whether this was a special need, the ante was upped to include the possibility of learning disabilities.

When some questioned again, the ante was upped to 2e.

When some questioned again, the ante was upped to include ADHD and/or ASD.

When some questioned again, the ante was upped to include suicide, depression, and severe anxiety.

When some questioned again, the ante was upped to include neurological disability.

We've now gone from high IQ, average processing speed kids (scoring 2400 on their SATs and going to college) to kids whose mothers maintain they have LDS, generalized anxiety disorder, ADHD, ASD, are suicidal and have neurological disabilities. If there actually are a group of such kids, after 11 years in the special needs community, I have yet to meet any of them. I do wish them luck because they sound profoundly impaired. But I suspect this post will result in fresh symptoms and disorders being added to the list of these poor kids.

Who cares if the topic is marginal for special needs? Some people were finding common ground and enjoying a conversation, even if maybe the thread is marginal for this forum, and some troll came in and ruined it. Some people were finding comfort, and some troll snatched that comfort away. That person should be checked by a psychologist themselves, as they clearly are lacking manners and empathy (you can have empathy for people whose problems are not worse than your own. Only damaged people do not)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's fun to debate Donald Trump, with a moving target where creative details are added and the ante is upped at any time.

But I've completed lost track of who this thread is about.

The original post was about "High IQ, average processing speed" and the mom wanted to know if there were any other kids out there. She and other other posters related that private schools had allowed extra time for tests.

When some questioned whether this was a special need, the ante was upped to include the possibility of learning disabilities.

When some questioned again, the ante was upped to 2e.

When some questioned again, the ante was upped to include ADHD and/or ASD.

When some questioned again, the ante was upped to include suicide, depression, and severe anxiety.

When some questioned again, the ante was upped to include neurological disability.

We've now gone from high IQ, average processing speed kids (scoring 2400 on their SATs and going to college) to kids whose mothers maintain they have LDS, generalized anxiety disorder, ADHD, ASD, are suicidal and have neurological disabilities. If there actually are a group of such kids, after 11 years in the special needs community, I have yet to meet any of them. I do wish them luck because they sound profoundly impaired. But I suspect this post will result in fresh symptoms and disorders being added to the list of these poor kids.

Who cares if the topic is marginal for special needs? Some people were finding common ground and enjoying a conversation, even if maybe the thread is marginal for this forum, and some troll came in and ruined it. Some people were finding comfort, and some troll snatched that comfort away. That person should be checked by a psychologist themselves, as they clearly are lacking manners and empathy (you can have empathy for people whose problems are not worse than your own. Only damaged people do not)

Maybe, but it is also lacking in empathy to deny that your kid with good grades, perfect SATs, and accepted by a good liberal arts college has special needs of the same magnitude as most parents on this forum. Check back in when you are up nights wondering if your kid is going to die suddenly in his sleep due to his condition.

[Anonymous]

And what people are saying is that high IQ low to average processing speed is a huge red flag for things like ADHD (which is a neurological disability) and anxiety disorder. It's not the low processing speed itself that is usually the problem-- it's that once you get to a 2SD difference, something else is usually going on. Also, kids, lie my DS, who have this pattern get very angry and frustrated and lash out, because their mind is working faster than they can process their thoughts. So they are thinking faster than they can write, for example, and get upset and just stop writing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's fun to debate Donald Trump, with a moving target where creative details are added and the ante is upped at any time.

But I've completed lost track of who this thread is about.

The original post was about "High IQ, average processing speed" and the mom wanted to know if there were any other kids out there. She and other other posters related that private schools had allowed extra time for tests.

When some questioned whether this was a special need, the ante was upped to include the possibility of learning disabilities.

When some questioned again, the ante was upped to 2e.

When some questioned again, the ante was upped to include ADHD and/or ASD.

When some questioned again, the ante was upped to include suicide, depression, and severe anxiety.

When some questioned again, the ante was upped to include neurological disability.

We've now gone from high IQ, average processing speed kids (scoring 2400 on their SATs and going to college) to kids whose mothers maintain they have LDS, generalized anxiety disorder, ADHD, ASD, are suicidal and have neurological disabilities. If there actually are a group of such kids, after 11 years in the special needs community, I have yet to meet any of them. I do wish them luck because they sound profoundly impaired. But I suspect this post will result in fresh symptoms and disorders being added to the list of these poor kids.

Who cares if the topic is marginal for special needs? Some people were finding common ground and enjoying a conversation, even if maybe the thread is marginal for this forum, and some troll came in and ruined it. Some people were finding comfort, and some troll snatched that comfort away. That person should be checked by a psychologist themselves, as they clearly are lacking manners and empathy (you can have empathy for people whose problems are not worse than your own. Only damaged people do not)

Maybe, but it is also lacking in empathy to deny that your kid with good grades, perfect SATs, and accepted by a good liberal arts college has special needs of the same magnitude as most parents on this forum. Check back in when you are up nights wondering if your kid is going to die suddenly in his sleep due to his condition.

Since when are parents of kids with things like ADHD and anxiety disorder not allowed to post here? You're right, it must be the worst thing imaginable to have a child with a life threatening problem. But not all SNs are life threatening, and it shouldn't have to be life threatening to post here. Parents of ADHD, anxious etc kids need support too. If this thread upsets you so much, and doesn't pertain to you, don't read it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's fun to debate Donald Trump, with a moving target where creative details are added and the ante is upped at any time.

But I've completed lost track of who this thread is about.

The original post was about "High IQ, average processing speed" and the mom wanted to know if there were any other kids out there. She and other other posters related that private schools had allowed extra time for tests.

When some questioned whether this was a special need, the ante was upped to include the possibility of learning disabilities.

When some questioned again, the ante was upped to 2e.

When some questioned again, the ante was upped to include ADHD and/or ASD.

When some questioned again, the ante was upped to include suicide, depression, and severe anxiety.

When some questioned again, the ante was upped to include neurological disability.

We've now gone from high IQ, average processing speed kids (scoring 2400 on their SATs and going to college) to kids whose mothers maintain they have LDS, generalized anxiety disorder, ADHD, ASD, are suicidal and have neurological disabilities. If there actually are a group of such kids, after 11 years in the special needs community, I have yet to meet any of them. I do wish them luck because they sound profoundly impaired. But I suspect this post will result in fresh symptoms and disorders being added to the list of these poor kids.

Who cares if the topic is marginal for special needs? Some people were finding common ground and enjoying a conversation, even if maybe the thread is marginal for this forum, and some troll came in and ruined it. Some people were finding comfort, and some troll snatched that comfort away. That person should be checked by a psychologist themselves, as they clearly are lacking manners and empathy (you can have empathy for people whose problems are not worse than your own. Only damaged people do not)

Maybe, but it is also lacking in empathy to deny that your kid with good grades, perfect SATs, and accepted by a good liberal arts college has special needs of the same magnitude as most parents on this forum. Check back in when you are up nights wondering if your kid is going to die suddenly in his sleep due to his condition.

Since when are parents of kids with things like ADHD and anxiety disorder not allowed to post here? You're right, it must be the worst thing imaginable to have a child with a life threatening problem. But not all SNs are life threatening, and it shouldn't have to be life threatening to post here. Parents of ADHD, anxious etc kids need support too. If this thread upsets you so much, and doesn't pertain to you, don't read it.

There are dozens of threads about kids with ADHD and anxiety and all receive full support, so this is a false dilemma. THIS THREAD was started about high IQ, average processing speed. That's completely different.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's fun to debate Donald Trump, with a moving target where creative details are added and the ante is upped at any time.

But I've completed lost track of who this thread is about.

The original post was about "High IQ, average processing speed" and the mom wanted to know if there were any other kids out there. She and other other posters related that private schools had allowed extra time for tests.

When some questioned whether this was a special need, the ante was upped to include the possibility of learning disabilities.

When some questioned again, the ante was upped to 2e.

When some questioned again, the ante was upped to include ADHD and/or ASD.

When some questioned again, the ante was upped to include suicide, depression, and severe anxiety.

When some questioned again, the ante was upped to include neurological disability.

We've now gone from high IQ, average processing speed kids (scoring 2400 on their SATs and going to college) to kids whose mothers maintain they have LDS, generalized anxiety disorder, ADHD, ASD, are suicidal and have neurological disabilities. If there actually are a group of such kids, after 11 years in the special needs community, I have yet to meet any of them. I do wish them luck because they sound profoundly impaired. But I suspect this post will result in fresh symptoms and disorders being added to the list of these poor kids.

Who cares if the topic is marginal for special needs? Some people were finding common ground and enjoying a conversation, even if maybe the thread is marginal for this forum, and some troll came in and ruined it. Some people were finding comfort, and some troll snatched that comfort away. That person should be checked by a psychologist themselves, as they clearly are lacking manners and empathy (you can have empathy for people whose problems are not worse than your own. Only damaged people do not)

Maybe, but it is also lacking in empathy to deny that your kid with good grades, perfect SATs, and accepted by a good liberal arts college has special needs of the same magnitude as most parents on this forum. Check back in when you are up nights wondering if your kid is going to die suddenly in his sleep due to his condition.

Since when are parents of kids with things like ADHD and anxiety disorder not allowed to post here? You're right, it must be the worst thing imaginable to have a child with a life threatening problem. But not all SNs are life threatening, and it shouldn't have to be life threatening to post here. Parents of ADHD, anxious etc kids need support too. If this thread upsets you so much, and doesn't pertain to you, don't read it.

This is so contrived. The vast majority of threads in the Special Needs forum are about kids with ADHD and/or anxiety disorders. The notion that you are not allowed to post here is beyond ludicrous. Look at the names of the threads...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's fun to debate Donald Trump, with a moving target where creative details are added and the ante is upped at any time.

But I've completed lost track of who this thread is about.

The original post was about "High IQ, average processing speed" and the mom wanted to know if there were any other kids out there. She and other other posters related that private schools had allowed extra time for tests.

When some questioned whether this was a special need, the ante was upped to include the possibility of learning disabilities.

When some questioned again, the ante was upped to 2e.

When some questioned again, the ante was upped to include ADHD and/or ASD.

When some questioned again, the ante was upped to include suicide, depression, and severe anxiety.

When some questioned again, the ante was upped to include neurological disability.

We've now gone from high IQ, average processing speed kids (scoring 2400 on their SATs and going to college) to kids whose mothers maintain they have LDS, generalized anxiety disorder, ADHD, ASD, are suicidal and have neurological disabilities. If there actually are a group of such kids, after 11 years in the special needs community, I have yet to meet any of them. I do wish them luck because they sound profoundly impaired. But I suspect this post will result in fresh symptoms and disorders being added to the list of these poor kids.

Who cares if the topic is marginal for special needs? Some people were finding common ground and enjoying a conversation, even if maybe the thread is marginal for this forum, and some troll came in and ruined it. Some people were finding comfort, and some troll snatched that comfort away. That person should be checked by a psychologist themselves, as they clearly are lacking manners and empathy (you can have empathy for people whose problems are not worse than your own. Only damaged people do not)

Maybe, but it is also lacking in empathy to deny that your kid with good grades, perfect SATs, and accepted by a good liberal arts college has special needs of the same magnitude as most parents on this forum. Check back in when you are up nights wondering if your kid is going to die suddenly in his sleep due to his condition.

Who said anything about accepted to a good liberal arts college?

And who has said anything about "same magnitude"?

[Anonymous]

Here we go again.

High IQ + average processing speed + perfect SAT scores + going to a good liberal arts college

BUT does not get all A's!!!

Must have Special Needs (but no diagnosis of ADHD, anxiety, etc)

Maybe OP can post in General Ed and get sympathy from other parents whose kids with high IQ and "average processing speed" don't get all As.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here we go again.

High IQ + average processing speed + perfect SAT scores + going to a good liberal arts college

BUT does not get all A's!!!

Must have Special Needs (but no diagnosis of ADHD, anxiety, etc)

Maybe OP can post in General Ed and get sympathy from other parents whose kids with high IQ and "average processing speed" don't get all As.

No. They'll eat her alive. She is essentially complaining about a kid who has a 3.3 gpa and got 2400 SATs without accommodations. High IQ, avg processing speed and no ADHD obviously. Maybe if she stopped trying to find excuses for him...

[Anonymous]

^take that back, kid could have ADHD but his processing speed obviously has little to no impact on his school performance.