High IQ, average processing speed

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Anonymous wrote:I have a kid like this (but with low processing speed). Two things helped, an organizational tutor, and learning how to type in elementary school. We did private tutoring over the summer so he could learn how to type really well and he has told us that is the best thing we ever did for him. Otherwise, the kid has been pretty easy -- not the highest achiever but definitely on a college track and happy as can be in high school.

How/where did you find the private typing tutor? That sounds like a great idea!

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Anonymous wrote:If there's a significant difference between processing speed and IQ, you might be looking at "the frustration profile": there's a article with recommendations at http://bitsofwisdomforall.com/2011/03/28/the-frustrated-learner/. GL!

This sounds just like my DC. Is this considered an LD?

Yes.

So what is the diagnosis?

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21:14, where does your child go to school?

My 10 year old has 95% verbal reasoning, 16% processing speed (on a good day, the day he was most recently tested, years ago it was at 4%). He hates his public school, but is very intellectual outside of school. I've been looking for the *right* school without success.

Maddux -- and sorry, you're already outside the age window. If you find the *right* school, please post it here and we'll follow behind you!

Try Commonwealth - it's a college prep school for kids with ADHD or exec. functioning and ranges from average to gifted I.Q.s.

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My kid is the same. Verbal and visual reasoning 95th percentile; processing speed 3rd percentile. Sigh. So far she is doing okay at her pre-k-8 private. She gets extra time on tests as needed, but she really only needs it in math.

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Anonymous wrote:
21:14, where does your child go to school?

My 10 year old has 95% verbal reasoning, 16% processing speed (on a good day, the day he was most recently tested, years ago it was at 4%). He hates his public school, but is very intellectual outside of school. I've been looking for the *right* school without success.

Maddux -- and sorry, you're already outside the age window. If you find the *right* school, please post it here and we'll follow behind you!

so true. If you find the right school outside Maddux, let us know. I'll fall in line and will follow you there too!

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is the same. Verbal and visual reasoning 95th percentile; processing speed 3rd percentile. Sigh. So far she is doing okay at her pre-k-8 private. She gets extra time on tests as needed, but she really only needs it in math.

what school if you don't mind?

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My kid is that way, as am I. High IQ, high verbal reasoning, rock bottom working memory, below average processing speed. Both of us are dyslexic. I did horribly in school, he does well with some support.

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Anonymous wrote:My ds has high IQ but low processing speed. His coding subtest was crazy low.
He is slower to get where he is going, but he is a very deep thinker.

If you haven't heard about the stanford professor (Jo Boaler) you should look up her work. I told my ds that speed is not important but he didn't believe it until they did her program at school. Now he tells ME that speed isn't important to being a mathmatician.

My ds also has been taught how to touch type and we have used an OT for handwriting for several years. She has caused the greatest improvement and it has been worth every penny. My ds is on the slow end in class but no longer needs accommodations. He never had a dysgraphia dx but did use dictation software for awhile until the OT helped enough to make a difference.

wow. this is my son. I wish our sons could meet.

The hardest thing, I think, is that everybody who meets my DS and talks to him is immediately struck by his high intelligence. Then they ask me why he isn't in some fancy school, or why he isn't doing some fancy program, and I try to tell them he has a learning disability, and his grades are not all the great (an understatement; they are actually pretty bad), and they just won't believe me. They just can not believe that somebody who sounds so incredibly intelligent could be struggling in school even when doing all his HW, etc.

My DS is very good at computer programming. I think many kids like this are, and it is a place they can succeed because they will not be directly tested against their peers until they are a lot older. You might try getting him involved in that, and things like idtech camp.

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My son has more than 3 standard deviations between processing speed and his biggest strength (visual-spatial). He also has dyslexia and ADHD. Frustration is a HUGE issue for him.

Getting the dyslexia diagnosis was really important. We had a lot of resistance for testing because his strengths disguised his underlying phonemic weakness (bottom 1%). He learned his alphabet early, middle of the pack in reading in K, spelled some words before K (then lost them when they taught sounding out), but then hit a brick wall when it came to decoding.

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I have a child like this (and a DH like this, but that's a whole other story), and am interested in any schools besides Commonwealth and Maddux that people have had good experiences with with this profile. TIA!

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My DS is very good at computer programming. I think many kids like this are, and it is a place they can succeed because they will not be directly tested against their peers until they are a lot older. You might try getting him involved in that, and things like idtech camp.

+1. Programming rewards complex thinking and working memory but is entirely self-paced so presumably "processing speed" (such a misnomer for what is really being measured) will be less important. It's something that a kid can build a deep reservoir of knowledge and confidence in through childhood that will actually be useful to them in adulthood. And it's a job (and subculture) that doesn't particularly care about sophisticated social skills. I'm going to push my kid in that direction.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have a kid like this (but with low processing speed). Two things helped, an organizational tutor, and learning how to type in elementary school. We did private tutoring over the summer so he could learn how to type really well and he has told us that is the best thing we ever did for him. Otherwise, the kid has been pretty easy -- not the highest achiever but definitely on a college track and happy as can be in high school.

How do you find an organizational tutor? Where should I look? What exactly does an organizational tutor do?

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My child has 127 IQ (not sure that's high but it's 96%) and 90 processing speed (30%). They want to test her for ADHD. I worry she has anxiety but I'm not sure that shows itself with low processing speed. Does anyone know?

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Anonymous wrote:I do. High IQ (144), average processing speed and working memory.

He is 17 and has done ok, but not great in high school. He has to work very hard for his grades. Over the years he has had a specialized tutor who has worked with him to develop systems to compensate for his organizational challenges. DSL uses Google calendar, cold turkey.com, and various apps and reminder systems for school assignments.

He does have accommodations in school include preferential seating and electronic submission of homework.

He scored a perfect 2400 on the SATs last spring.

On the whole he is doing great.

Did you son have extra time to take the SATs? If so, how did you go about getting permission to do that. Thanks!

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Anonymous wrote:I do. High IQ (144), average processing speed and working memory.

He is 17 and has done ok, but not great in high school. He has to work very hard for his grades. Over the years he has had a specialized tutor who has worked with him to develop systems to compensate for his organizational challenges. DSL uses Google calendar, cold turkey.com, and various apps and reminder systems for school assignments.

He does have accommodations in school include preferential seating and electronic submission of homework.

He scored a perfect 2400 on the SATs last spring.

On the whole he is doing great.

Did you son have extra time to take the SATs? If so, how did you go about getting permission to do that. Thanks!

NP - we had time and a half and double time for our two children, the more severe SN child had Aspergers/ADHD/anxiety. The other child got time and a half for Exec. Function/Anxiety. Our private school did all the paperwork for us.