Pledge of Allegiance in Schools

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Do you stand, remove your hat, hand over heart, anything during the national anthem? (directed to those who find the pledge fascist, immoral, etc)


No.


I take out my phone and load up candy crush, it's a great way to pass the time until everyone else is finished.


I am partial to Scrabble.


I hope next time you do that you are standing next to someone recently returned from deployment.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Why would the District require this? Another dumb policy.
Do they at least take out the words "under god"?


A better question is, who are the idiot parents who "question" this?


Me, for one. I'm an atheist and don't want my child to be encouraged to pledge to something "under god." That goes against my family's values.


Well isn't that just too bad.

You might want to consider homeschooling.


So now we are required to be religious to attend public school? What happened to separation of church and state?


Maybe instead of you homeschooling, the PP should consider moving to Russia. They sound like they would make a great communist.


1) Is reciting the Pledge mandatory? Is there punishment for not reciting? If the answers are no, then how is it required? Do you or your children use American paper currency? Does inclusion of the phrase "in god we trust" mean you are required to to be religious to engage in commerce?

2) SCOTUS answered this question already. You can find the answer to your question in that opinion.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do you stand, remove your hat, hand over heart, anything during the national anthem? (directed to those who find the pledge fascist, immoral, etc)


No.


I take out my phone and load up candy crush, it's a great way to pass the time until everyone else is finished.


I am partial to Scrabble.


I hope next time you do that you are standing next to someone recently returned from deployment.


I dont do it based on the people around me, so it wouldn't matter much. I don't respect the former President's decision to invade Iraq on false pretenses. I feel sorry for all the soldiers that had to deploy there because of his greed/personal agenda.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why would the District require this? Another dumb policy.
Do they at least take out the words "under god"?


A better question is, who are the idiot parents who "question" this?


Me, for one. I'm an atheist and don't want my child to be encouraged to pledge to something "under god." That goes against my family's values.


Well isn't that just too bad.

You might want to consider homeschooling.


So now we are required to be religious to attend public school? What happened to separation of church and state?


Maybe instead of you homeschooling, the PP should consider moving to Russia. They sound like they would make a great communist.




1) Is reciting the Pledge mandatory? Is there punishment for not reciting? If the answers are no, then how is it required? Do you or your children use American paper currency? Does inclusion of the phrase "in god we trust" mean you are required to to be religious to engage in commerce?

2) SCOTUS answered this question already. You can find the answer to your question in that opinion.


No-one said it was required...that PP was responding to the person that said her children belonged in a homeschool if they didn't want to participate. Which is preposterous.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why would the District require this? Another dumb policy.
Do they at least take out the words "under god"?


A better question is, who are the idiot parents who "question" this?


Me, for one. I'm an atheist and don't want my child to be encouraged to pledge to something "under god." That goes against my family's values.


Well isn't that just too bad.

You might want to consider homeschooling.


So now we are required to be religious to attend public school? What happened to separation of church and state?


Maybe instead of you homeschooling, the PP should consider moving to Russia. They sound like they would make a great communist.




1) Is reciting the Pledge mandatory? Is there punishment for not reciting? If the answers are no, then how is it required? Do you or your children use American paper currency? Does inclusion of the phrase "in god we trust" mean you are required to to be religious to engage in commerce?

2) SCOTUS answered this question already. You can find the answer to your question in that opinion.


No-one said it was required...that PP was responding to the person that said her children belonged in a homeschool if they didn't want to participate. Which is preposterous.


11:49 here. I know. Mainly rhetorical questions.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do you stand, remove your hat, hand over heart, anything during the national anthem? (directed to those who find the pledge fascist, immoral, etc)


No.


I take out my phone and load up candy crush, it's a great way to pass the time until everyone else is finished.


I am partial to Scrabble.


I hope next time you do that you are standing next to someone recently returned from deployment.


I dont do it based on the people around me, so it wouldn't matter much. I don't respect the former President's decision to invade Iraq on false pretenses. I feel sorry for all the soldiers that had to deploy there because of his greed/personal agenda.



I don't respect it much either. But I do respect the sacrifices that our service people are making over there (now under Obama for the past 6 years) and I respect their ability to punch you in the face when you show such flagrant and purposeful disrespect.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do you stand, remove your hat, hand over heart, anything during the national anthem? (directed to those who find the pledge fascist, immoral, etc)


No.


I take out my phone and load up candy crush, it's a great way to pass the time until everyone else is finished.


I am partial to Scrabble.


I hope next time you do that you are standing next to someone recently returned from deployment.


I dont do it based on the people around me, so it wouldn't matter much. I don't respect the former President's decision to invade Iraq on false pretenses. I feel sorry for all the soldiers that had to deploy there because of his greed/personal agenda.



I don't respect it much either. But I do respect the sacrifices that our service people are making over there (now under Obama for the past 6 years) and I respect their ability to punch you in the face when you show such flagrant and purposeful disrespect.


They can try, but they will probably end up on the floor though. FWIW my choosing not to participate is not being disrespectful to what they do for a living. We all (well most of us) contribute to America in our own way....I don't recall the last time I attacked someone for not going out of their way to show respect to what I do for a living...So I guess you are right, many soldiers do lack impulse control, must be a soldier thing...

and FYI since it seems you never picked up on the obvious sarcasm. I don't actually pull out my phone just to spite people during the pledge/anthem. But If I'm already engrossed in something, I don't necessarily drop everything to recite it though. That's my 2 cents.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why would the District require this? Another dumb policy.
Do they at least take out the words "under god"?


A better question is, who are the idiot parents who "question" this?


Me, for one. I'm an atheist and don't want my child to be encouraged to pledge to something "under god." That goes against my family's values.


We capitalize God here, pal.



Not PP. You, pal, capitalize god. Many do not.


Your viewpoint has been noted, comrade.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why would the District require this? Another dumb policy.
Do they at least take out the words "under god"?


A better question is, who are the idiot parents who "question" this?


Me, for one. I'm an atheist and don't want my child to be encouraged to pledge to something "under god." That goes against my family's values.


Well isn't that just too bad.

You might want to consider homeschooling.


So now we are required to be religious to attend public school? What happened to separation of church and state?


The exact question I ask myself when I hear whiny parents complain that public school events take place on obscure Jewish holidays.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why would the District require this? Another dumb policy.
Do they at least take out the words "under god"?


A better question is, who are the idiot parents who "question" this?


Me, for one. I'm an atheist and don't want my child to be encouraged to pledge to something "under god." That goes against my family's values.


Well isn't that just too bad.

You might want to consider homeschooling.


So now we are required to be religious to attend public school? What happened to separation of church and state?


The exact question I ask myself when I hear whiny parents complain that public school events take place on obscure Jewish holidays.


Ha, obscure Jewish holidays like Yom Kippur? Are we respecting religious beliefs or not? Because you can't have it both ways.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why would the District require this? Another dumb policy.
Do they at least take out the words "under god"?


A better question is, who are the idiot parents who "question" this?


Me, for one. I'm an atheist and don't want my child to be encouraged to pledge to something "under god." That goes against my family's values.


Well isn't that just too bad.

You might want to consider homeschooling.


So now we are required to be religious to attend public school? What happened to separation of church and state?


The exact question I ask myself when I hear whiny parents complain that public school events take place on obscure Jewish holidays.


Which of these obscure holidays do you hear whiny parents complaining about? Rosh Hashanah? Yom Kippur? Other High Holy Days? The Jews we know who send their kids to public school understand that Christians decided many years ago that their religious holidays are the only ones important enough to observe. So what can they do about this? Don't send their kids to school on all those obscure holidays. No big deal. It's an excused absence. #TrollFail

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why do we need to pledge to the flag? Seriously, I am an Old and never understood this (we did it at our DCPS in the 70s).

It feels really fascist to me, and I'm pretty patriotic.


Me too. It feels creepy.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do you stand, remove your hat, hand over heart, anything during the national anthem? (directed to those who find the pledge fascist, immoral, etc)


No.


I take out my phone and load up candy crush, it's a great way to pass the time until everyone else is finished.


I am partial to Scrabble.


I hope next time you do that you are standing next to someone recently returned from deployment.


I dont do it based on the people around me, so it wouldn't matter much. I don't respect the former President's decision to invade Iraq on false pretenses. I feel sorry for all the soldiers that had to deploy there because of his greed/personal agenda.



I don't respect it much either. But I do respect the sacrifices that our service people are making over there (now under Obama for the past 6 years) and I respect their ability to punch you in the face when you show such flagrant and purposeful disrespect.


They can try, but they will probably end up on the floor though. FWIW my choosing not to participate is not being disrespectful to what they do for a living. We all (well most of us) contribute to America in our own way....I don't recall the last time I attacked someone for not going out of their way to show respect to what I do for a living...So I guess you are right, many soldiers do lack impulse control, must be a soldier thing...

and FYI since it seems you never picked up on the obvious sarcasm. I don't actually pull out my phone just to spite people during the pledge/anthem. But If I'm already engrossed in something, I don't necessarily drop everything to recite it though. That's my 2 cents.




I've noticed how inherently tough and brave men who post on mommy web sites and whine about our anthem are.
Anonymous
I never had a problem with it, I just never said "under God" since (a) it was not part of the original Pledge; and (b) I don't believe in God.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do you stand, remove your hat, hand over heart, anything during the national anthem? (directed to those who find the pledge fascist, immoral, etc)


No.


I take out my phone and load up candy crush, it's a great way to pass the time until everyone else is finished.


I am partial to Scrabble.


I hope next time you do that you are standing next to someone recently returned from deployment.


I dont do it based on the people around me, so it wouldn't matter much. I don't respect the former President's decision to invade Iraq on false pretenses. I feel sorry for all the soldiers that had to deploy there because of his greed/personal agenda.



I don't respect it much either. But I do respect the sacrifices that our service people are making over there (now under Obama for the past 6 years) and I respect their ability to punch you in the face when you show such flagrant and purposeful disrespect.


They can try, but they will probably end up on the floor though. FWIW my choosing not to participate is not being disrespectful to what they do for a living. We all (well most of us) contribute to America in our own way....I don't recall the last time I attacked someone for not going out of their way to show respect to what I do for a living...So I guess you are right, many soldiers do lack impulse control, must be a soldier thing...

and FYI since it seems you never picked up on the obvious sarcasm. I don't actually pull out my phone just to spite people during the pledge/anthem. But If I'm already engrossed in something, I don't necessarily drop everything to recite it though. That's my 2 cents.


I have a family member in the military. He fought for your right NOT to say the pledge if you don't want to and would have no issue with it. That is your right and freedom as an American. He may disagree with you, but that's the great thing about America - our freedom to disagree without punching each other in the face.
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