Pledge of Allegiance in Schools

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Even if policy requires it in school, your kid would not be required to say it, only to be quiet and respectful while others do.

Of course. My kids have never attended a school where the pledge was recited, but if they did, I would advise them to stand respectfully and quietly, even if they choose not to recite, just as I would ask them to do if we were in any other country where a national pledge/anthem, etc., was being recited/played/sung. Basic manners, folks. We are a bunch of leftist atheists, fwiw.

I agree with both these posts. We are atheists, but I can still respect the pledge and the flag. My kids know the words, and that is ok with me. When they decide to ask me about god we can have a discussion. Because the reality is, lots of people believe in god - and they might choose to... that's ok with me. I don't worry about having to discuss it.

My DD doesn't have to say the pledge, but I have absolutely taught her to be respectful in settings where it's recited. She stands quietly. She doesn't put her hand over her heart or recite the words. There may be a time that she changes her mind and chooses to more actively participate in the pledge...that's for her to decide. The most important thing is to show respect for others.

How about showing respect for our country, its flag and those who sacrificed for the precious freedoms that you enjoy?.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why would the District require this? Another dumb policy.
Do they at least take out the words "under god"?

A better question is, who are the idiot parents who "question" this?

Me, for one. I'm an atheist and don't want my child to be encouraged to pledge to something "under god." That goes against my family's values.

We capitalize God here, pal.

Not PP. You, pal, capitalize god. Many do not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even if policy requires it in school, your kid would not be required to say it, only to be quiet and respectful while others do.

Of course. My kids have never attended a school where the pledge was recited, but if they did, I would advise them to stand respectfully and quietly, even if they choose not to recite, just as I would ask them to do if we were in any other country where a national pledge/anthem, etc., was being recited/played/sung. Basic manners, folks. We are a bunch of leftist atheists, fwiw.

I agree with both these posts. We are atheists, but I can still respect the pledge and the flag. My kids know the words, and that is ok with me. When they decide to ask me about god we can have a discussion. Because the reality is, lots of people believe in god - and they might choose to... that's ok with me. I don't worry about having to discuss it.

My DD doesn't have to say the pledge, but I have absolutely taught her to be respectful in settings where it's recited. She stands quietly. She doesn't put her hand over her heart or recite the words. There may be a time that she changes her mind and chooses to more actively participate in the pledge...that's for her to decide. The most important thing is to show respect for others.

How about showing respect for our country, its flag and those who sacrificed for the precious freedoms that you enjoy?.

Go back to Va. The flag represents a country that grants rights to those that feel worshiping or pledging allegiance to an inanimate object goes against their beliefs.

[Anonymous]

A while back, people said "America -- love it or leave it!"

That's still wise advice to follow today, but you can cam it "self-Deportation" if you like.

[Anonymous]

Should we start showing respect for the flag by compelling adults to say the pledge at work? Why do we do this to kids and not to adults?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even if policy requires it in school, your kid would not be required to say it, only to be quiet and respectful while others do.

Of course. My kids have never attended a school where the pledge was recited, but if they did, I would advise them to stand respectfully and quietly, even if they choose not to recite, just as I would ask them to do if we were in any other country where a national pledge/anthem, etc., was being recited/played/sung. Basic manners, folks. We are a bunch of leftist atheists, fwiw.

I agree with both these posts. We are atheists, but I can still respect the pledge and the flag. My kids know the words, and that is ok with me. When they decide to ask me about god we can have a discussion. Because the reality is, lots of people believe in god - and they might choose to... that's ok with me. I don't worry about having to discuss it.

My DD doesn't have to say the pledge, but I have absolutely taught her to be respectful in settings where it's recited. She stands quietly. She doesn't put her hand over her heart or recite the words. There may be a time that she changes her mind and chooses to more actively participate in the pledge...that's for her to decide. The most important thing is to show respect for others.

How about showing respect for our country, its flag and those who sacrificed for the precious freedoms that you enjoy?.

Her daughter is standing, that is showing respect. How about you not be a prick?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A while back, people said "America -- love it or leave it!"

That's still wise advice to follow today, but you can cam it "self-Deportation" if you like.

Really, where are all these redneck posters coming from? They are certainly not DC parents. You know this is a free country that allows minorities to be protected in their beliefs? We are American Citizens and the fact that you are suggesting that we, American Citizens, descendants of slaves that built this country, descendants of Revolutionary War soldiers, should leave because we don't believe in worshiping a flag is astonishing. You have no clue what America is or stands for idiot. You are worse than Trump. Please stay in VA.

[Anonymous]

Right. It's flag worship. And slaves. Totally. Totally normal reaction.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do you stand, remove your hat, hand over heart, anything during the national anthem? (directed to those who find the pledge fascist, immoral, etc)

No.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do you stand, remove your hat, hand over heart, anything during the national anthem? (directed to those who find the pledge fascist, immoral, etc)

No.

I take out my phone and load up candy crush, it's a great way to pass the time until everyone else is finished.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you stand, remove your hat, hand over heart, anything during the national anthem? (directed to those who find the pledge fascist, immoral, etc)

No.

I take out my phone and load up candy crush, it's a great way to pass the time until everyone else is finished.

I am partial to Scrabble.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why would the District require this? Another dumb policy.
Do they at least take out the words "under god"?

I hope not. Not until they remove the five reference to God in the Declaration of Independence.

I'm fine with the pledge while acknowledging and accepting the late addition of "under God" to the text. However, you're on shaky ground if you believe "Nature's God" supports "under God".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would the District require this? Another dumb policy.
Do they at least take out the words "under god"?

A better question is, who are the idiot parents who "question" this?

Me, for one. I'm an atheist and don't want my child to be encouraged to pledge to something "under god." That goes against my family's values.

Well isn't that just too bad.

You might want to consider homeschooling.

So now we are required to be religious to attend public school? What happened to separation of church and state?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would the District require this? Another dumb policy.
Do they at least take out the words "under god"?

A better question is, who are the idiot parents who "question" this?

Me, for one. I'm an atheist and don't want my child to be encouraged to pledge to something "under god." That goes against my family's values.

Well isn't that just too bad.

You might want to consider homeschooling.

So now we are required to be religious to attend public school? What happened to separation of church and state?

Maybe instead of you homeschooling, the PP should consider moving to Russia. They sound like they would make a great communist.

[Anonymous]

So a few states also have state equivalents to the Pledge. At least one, Texas - no surprise, apparently requires the state pledge to be recited by school children. Amazing.