To the regular posters that love to come here to bash

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:the immersion program does not have bussing offered out of district.

I still contend that schools with LLIV programs should not be offered the center option. The centers should only be for students in schools without the resources available to them.

Yes, but TJ does have busing! Again, let's not cherry pick! All or none!!

Good point. Should TJ students pay for their transportation? Honest question, 7:21.

TJ's busing isn't the same as AAP bussing. Buses run from the local high school to TJ. TJ isn't doing runs across the county. TJ kids take the local HS bus to the local HS and then take the TJ bus from HS to TJ.
I think removing the AAP bussing will totally change the vibe of AAP.
If immersion parents are willing to drive, AAP parents should be willing to drive also.

I drove my kid to school but I am a work from home parent so it is not difficult for me to hit two elementary schools and one preschool in the morning. Many of the stay at home parents do drive their kids to the center in our neighborhood. The ones that regularly use bus services are the working families where both parents work out of the home.

In our bus run to center, the bussed in kids go on the same busses as kids zoned for the center. The busses just hit our neighborhoods first in tue morning and last after school. Tye zoned kids have a nice short bus ride and the bussed in kids have a very long bus ride, even if they live minutes from the school. I have no problem with that.

The center busses also stop at the feeder elementary schools and pick up a bunch of kids. Maybe that would be a better solution to appease some parents, but I am guessing it would be less efficient and more expensive for the district because the busses would be half empty or have to drive even longer/farther to collect kids at multiple elementaries.

What a confusing mess. It would simplify everything if AAP kids just stayed at their own base schools. Problem solved.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I guess I don't get it. I don't see some big red carpet laid out for AAP students. Just an accelerated curriculum. Not broadcast on the school intercom everyday.

When one group of kids is given a choice as to which school they'd prefer to attend (or their parents would prefer) - along with free busing to the chosen school - then yes, that group is being given preferential treatment. You don't see Gen Ed kids offered a choice of two different schools, and their parents engaging in long discussions over the minute details of each school, its teachers, curriculum, after-school offerings, "peer group," and more. Nope, the Gen Ed kids go to the school they are assigned to, period, end of story. The only exception might be if they are in language immersion, but that's a very rare exception.

It's true that the AAP curriculum itself is no big deal in and of itself (though some very naive parents look at it as the Holy Grail). But the fact remains that you can't offer one entire group of kids these options but not the other and call it an equitable system. It absolutely isn't.

If you don't even think that the AAP curriculum is a "big deal" then why the big cry about preferential treatment? Its about busses and switching schools for you? If its just the parents talking about it that annoys you, walk away! I'm a parent of kids in AAP and I didn't prep, refer, appeal, scheme, steal, lie or beg to get them in. And I don't talk about it either.

Listen, my kid didn't make travel soccer and I don't think that the kids that DID make it are these super elite athletes bound for the World Cup, but I don't begrudge the program or the parents or kids that are a part of it! Its not a big deal in the grand scheme of things.

If your kid is feeling badly about it, it is likely because the label is a big deal to you. I can't imagine little Johnny brooding over how the neighbor kid "gets" to have longer school bus commute and "gets" to leave his friends for a center school. Shouldn't even be on his radar.

How arrogant. I'll be sure and let him know that his concerns "shouldn't even be on his radar" - the AAP parent said there's no need to brood.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:the immersion program does not have bussing offered out of district.

I still contend that schools with LLIV programs should not be offered the center option. The centers should only be for students in schools without the resources available to them.

Yes, but TJ does have busing! Again, let's not cherry pick! All or none!!

Good point. Should TJ students pay for their transportation? Honest question, 7:21.

TJ's busing isn't the same as AAP bussing. Buses run from the local high school to TJ. TJ isn't doing runs across the county. TJ kids take the local HS bus to the local HS and then take the TJ bus from HS to TJ.
I think removing the AAP bussing will totally change the vibe of AAP.
If immersion parents are willing to drive, AAP parents should be willing to drive also.

I drove my kid to school but I am a work from home parent so it is not difficult for me to hit two elementary schools and one preschool in the morning. Many of the stay at home parents do drive their kids to the center in our neighborhood. The ones that regularly use bus services are the working families where both parents work out of the home.

In our bus run to center, the bussed in kids go on the same busses as kids zoned for the center. The busses just hit our neighborhoods first in tue morning and last after school. Tye zoned kids have a nice short bus ride and the bussed in kids have a very long bus ride, even if they live minutes from the school. I have no problem with that.

The center busses also stop at the feeder elementary schools and pick up a bunch of kids. Maybe that would be a better solution to appease some parents, but I am guessing it would be less efficient and more expensive for the district because the busses would be half empty or have to drive even longer/farther to collect kids at multiple elementaries.

What a confusing mess. It would simplify everything if AAP kids just stayed at their own base schools. Problem solved.

What is confusing about getting on and off at your assigned bus stop?

If that task feels too confusing for you then perhaps it IS better your kid is not in AAP. Even the biggest skin of your teeth appeal kid can manage the bus schedule without viewing it as a "confusing mess"

[Anonymous]

Yet again, no one is answering why we should continue to allow for students at schools with lliv programs to leave to go to a center. The centers should only be offered at schools without these resources.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yet again, no one is answering why we should continue to allow for students at schools with lliv programs to leave to go to a center. The centers should only be offered at schools without these resources.

Just curious, how many times have you posted in this thread alone?

[Anonymous]

A couple, but there are a couple other posters who want the same answer...which I notice you still haven't answered.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A couple, but there are a couple other posters who want the same answer...which I notice you still haven't answered.

I am not part of that discussion. I am only here for the bus discussion. Would not have even continued beyond my inital comment had the silly and over dramatic prolific poster had not started in about how "confusing" busing should be the downfall of AAP.

[Anonymous]

Fine, whatever about the bussing...can someone please address the question?

The silence seems to say to me that there is no good answer and therefore this ridiculous practice should end.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fine, whatever about the bussing...can someone please address the question?

The silence seems to say to me that there is no good answer and therefore this ridiculous practice should end.

Surely you realize yours is a question best posed to the county. I doubt there's anything a parent here could say that would satisfy you. The "silence" of those who have no more control over policies than you does not mean there is no good answer to your question. Go investigate properly, if you're so curious, and report back if you want.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:the immersion program does not have bussing offered out of district.

I still contend that schools with LLIV programs should not be offered the center option. The centers should only be for students in schools without the resources available to them.

Yes, but TJ does have busing! Again, let's not cherry pick! All or none!!

Good point. Should TJ students pay for their transportation? Honest question, 7:21.

TJ's busing isn't the same as AAP bussing. Buses run from the local high school to TJ. TJ isn't doing runs across the county. TJ kids take the local HS bus to the local HS and then take the TJ bus from HS to TJ.
I think removing the AAP bussing will totally change the vibe of AAP.
If immersion parents are willing to drive, AAP parents should be willing to drive also.

I drove my kid to school but I am a work from home parent so it is not difficult for me to hit two elementary schools and one preschool in the morning. Many of the stay at home parents do drive their kids to the center in our neighborhood. The ones that regularly use bus services are the working families where both parents work out of the home.

In our bus run to center, the bussed in kids go on the same busses as kids zoned for the center. The busses just hit our neighborhoods first in tue morning and last after school. Tye zoned kids have a nice short bus ride and the bussed in kids have a very long bus ride, even if they live minutes from the school. I have no problem with that.

The center busses also stop at the feeder elementary schools and pick up a bunch of kids. Maybe that would be a better solution to appease some parents, but I am guessing it would be less efficient and more expensive for the district because the busses would be half empty or have to drive even longer/farther to collect kids at multiple elementaries.

What a confusing mess. It would simplify everything if AAP kids just stayed at their own base schools. Problem solved.

What is confusing about getting on and off at your assigned bus stop?

If that task feels too confusing for you then perhaps it IS better your kid is not in AAP. Even the biggest skin of your teeth appeal kid can manage the bus schedule without viewing it as a "confusing mess"

If you think there is nothing confusing (not to mention inefficient and wasteful) about the above "system," then you're clearly part of the problem. The AAP buses in our area are already half empty as they wind their way through neighborhoods, picking up a few kids who live miles apart, just to bring them to the center school - when their own base school already has LLIV. But since it benefits your child, then it must be worthwhile, right?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A couple, but there are a couple other posters who want the same answer...which I notice you still haven't answered.

I am not part of that discussion. I am only here for the bus discussion. Would not have even continued beyond my inital comment had the silly and over dramatic prolific poster had not started in about how "confusing" busing should be the downfall of AAP.

Your critical thinking skills are extremely lax if you think redundant busing is the only downfall of AAP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yet again, no one is answering why we should continue to allow for students at schools with lliv programs to leave to go to a center. The centers should only be offered at schools without these resources.

Just curious, how many times have you posted in this thread alone?

Curious: surely you realize just how many posters are involved in this thread? There are quite a few who would like answers to the issue re: busing kids to centers when they already have LLIV in their base schools. Funny that you assume only one person would possibly be concerned by this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Fine, whatever about the bussing...can someone please address the question?

The silence seems to say to me that there is no good answer and therefore this ridiculous practice should end.

Surely you realize yours is a question best posed to the county. I doubt there's anything a parent here could say that would satisfy you. The "silence" of those who have no more control over policies than you does not mean there is no good answer to your question. Go investigate properly, if you're so curious, and report back if you want.

well, when clearly there are those making this decision, I want to know why the LLIV program just doesn't cut it for your kid and an entire classroom full of their peers. There are schools where the LLIV students could fill several classrooms at a base school, yet large numbers still choose the center. WHY?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fine, whatever about the bussing...can someone please address the question?

The silence seems to say to me that there is no good answer and therefore this ridiculous practice should end.

Surely you realize yours is a question best posed to the county. I doubt there's anything a parent here could say that would satisfy you. The "silence" of those who have no more control over policies than you does not mean there is no good answer to your question. Go investigate properly, if you're so curious, and report back if you want.

well, when clearly there are those making this decision, I want to know why the LLIV program just doesn't cut it for your kid and an entire classroom full of their peers. There are schools where the LLIV students could fill several classrooms at a base school, yet large numbers still choose the center. WHY?

Please provide examples of schools where the LLIV students could fill several classrooms at a base school. Thank you.

[Anonymous]

If our base school could fill up one class, we'd jump at the chance to stay. Unfortunately, we can't even fill up half a class without tbe principal having to "backfill" just to make up a full class. We would much rather stay at our base school, but we feel that if less than half the class has been identified as AAP, the whole class will likely move more slowly than a full class at the center school.