To the regular posters that love to come here to bash

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To those who state that they would have opted for a local level IV had they had the choice, there is a reason why the centers exist and local level IVs still feed there. The programs at our schools (center and level IV) are not the same- despite what the staff states during the presentation. It really isn't mixing the groups that is an issue- it's also inconsistency- it is completly up to the principal to do whatever, whenever. So- what you experience one year can turn upside down the next. And that was what our particular school was experiencing. As for the neighborhood aspect- in our case the center is so close and feeds to all the same MS and HS so this wasn't a temporary friendships situation. So- sorry but I am so glad we have centers (and our center is a feeder- meaning, not enough to be a local level IV- as I'm sure others are).

In our school LLIV is much better than center. Not even single child opts for center.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To those who state that they would have opted for a local level IV had they had the choice, there is a reason why the centers exist and local level IVs still feed there. The programs at our schools (center and level IV) are not the same- despite what the staff states during the presentation. It really isn't mixing the groups that is an issue- it's also inconsistency- it is completly up to the principal to do whatever, whenever. So- what you experience one year can turn upside down the next. And that was what our particular school was experiencing. As for the neighborhood aspect- in our case the center is so close and feeds to all the same MS and HS so this wasn't a temporary friendships situation. So- sorry but I am so glad we have centers (and our center is a feeder- meaning, not enough to be a local level IV- as I'm sure others are).

In our school LLIV is much better than center. Not even single child opts for center.

So this proves how local level IVs are not consistent with how they are implemented and are completely at the principal's discretion and whim in some cases.

[Anonymous]

While I can appreciate that it isn't the same at every school, certainly you can understand the frustration of being at a school that is almost 270 over capacity due to the size of a bloated center. My child has no option to leave, in the program or not. And there does not seem to be a cap on number of students at a center, so the school must continue to accommodate these students. This is a terrible situation for everyone.

Problems with administration aside, the resources are there when you have lliv at your school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think pointing out the flaws with the system, such as running essentially an honors program and then excluding a large percentage of kids who are more than capable of handling it, is bashing. That's the great thing about living in this country, freedom of speech. And yes, I have a child in AAP and see the work they do, and it's an honors program, not a gifted program.

who the f**k claims it is a “gifted program.”?
but it is selective - so only the smartest and most precocious get in

Oh, dear. *snicker*

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How do they justify having a LLIV at that last cluster of schools?

Those schools should feed into centers only.

The huge groups should stay LLIV.

+1000

+2000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can you also post poplar tree numbers? I think they are fairly similar to CP's.

Poplar Tree
Grade 3: 35 choose Center, 5 choose LLIV
Grade 4: 34 choose Center, 0 choose LLIV
Grade 5: 46 choose Center, 4 choose LLIV
Grade 6: 35 choose Center, 1 choose LLIV
Total: 150 choose Center, 10 choose LLIV

(Might be interesting to compare these numbers with those shared by Facilities as part of the Greenbriar West/Poplar Tree AAP Center shift earlier this year.)

What??? Poplar Tree didn't have a LLIV until this year. There should only be data for how many chose LLIV for 3rd graders. I'm confused.

[Anonymous]

Maybe it was those kids who decided not to leave PT? I was confused, as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe it was those kids who decided not to leave PT? I was confused, as well.

Dashboard shows 5 at Poplar Tree for 3rd grade and 4 for 5th grade.

http://www.fcps.edu/fts/dashboard/enrollment/esenroll14-15.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think pointing out the flaws with the system, such as running essentially an honors program and then excluding a large percentage of kids who are more than capable of handling it, is bashing. That's the great thing about living in this country, freedom of speech. And yes, I have a child in AAP and see the work they do, and it's an honors program, not a gifted program.

who the f**k claims it is a “gifted program.”?
but it is selective - so only the smartest and most precocious get in

Oh, dear. *snicker*

yes, they are the cream of the crop. And have the most motivated parents of course.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:While I can appreciate that it isn't the same at every school, certainly you can understand the frustration of being at a school that is almost 270 over capacity due to the size of a bloated center. My child has no option to leave, in the program or not. And there does not seem to be a cap on number of students at a center, so the school must continue to accommodate these students. This is a terrible situation for everyone.

Problems with administration aside, the resources are there when you have lliv at your school.

Hello- the point is that the resources are not allocated in the way that makes the level IV even comparable to a center's AAP program (in this case). I think the principal is ok but she has her own agenda and dilluting the program seems to be in effect for years now. Our center would not be a local level IV if it did not have feeders - just not enough students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While I can appreciate that it isn't the same at every school, certainly you can understand the frustration of being at a school that is almost 270 over capacity due to the size of a bloated center. My child has no option to leave, in the program or not. And there does not seem to be a cap on number of students at a center, so the school must continue to accommodate these students. This is a terrible situation for everyone.

Problems with administration aside, the resources are there when you have lliv at your school.

Hello- the point is that the resources are not allocated in the way that makes the level IV even comparable to a center's AAP program (in this case). I think the principal is ok but she has her own agenda and dilluting the program seems to be in effect for years now. Our center would not be a local level IV if it did not have feeders - just not enough students.

Is your center school severely overcrowded? Are you at one of the schools with a small number of Level IV students?

I think there are ways to fix this that will make most happy. It might have to be done on a school by school, center by center basis. But, really, I hope none of you ever have to see the results of severe overcrowding like we did.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While I can appreciate that it isn't the same at every school, certainly you can understand the frustration of being at a school that is almost 270 over capacity due to the size of a bloated center. My child has no option to leave, in the program or not. And there does not seem to be a cap on number of students at a center, so the school must continue to accommodate these students. This is a terrible situation for everyone.

Problems with administration aside, the resources are there when you have lliv at your school.

Hello- the point is that the resources are not allocated in the way that makes the level IV even comparable to a center's AAP program (in this case). I think the principal is ok but she has her own agenda and dilluting the program seems to be in effect for years now. Our center would not be a local level IV if it did not have feeders - just not enough students.

Is your center school severely overcrowded? Are you at one of the schools with a small number of Level IV students?

I think there are ways to fix this that will make most happy. It might have to be done on a school by school, center by center basis. But, really, I hope none of you ever have to see the results of severe overcrowding like we did.

Which is your school? (I take it you are at a center school which is also your base)

[Anonymous]

Yes-GBW. We just went through a sad attempt by the board to "fix" the situation they created by opening a center at another school. But, it's still going to be at least 150 kids over capacity (probably more, as rumor is that we're actually expecting MORE 5th and 6th grade center students) because they didn't address the Ppwell situation. Powell is now under capacity, too.

It's an effing mess out here, and the school board absolutely sat on their hands watching this occur and refused to make any meaningful changes. They actually tried to NOT move anyone and only start the center with new students until some parents raised a huge stink after that recommendation was made.