mute & handicap parking

[Anonymous]

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Tell me who I've inconvenienced when I have never seen a person waiting in a wheelchair outside the handicapped stall when I've used it (I'm including all the times I've used it because that's where the diaper changer is. If the handicapped stalls are so sacred, why do they put the diaper changers in there?) So until you tell me who I've put out, and what "excuse" I need for my "behavior" of changing diapers, assisting my child, and the rare occasion that I need to change out of work clothes before a flight, all the while not one time ever seeing anyone in a wheelchair waiting to use the stall, I will continue. You are looking for problems where they don't exist. And that's why you're a heart attack waiting to happen. There's no problem here except the one in your head. Not healthy.

Your confusing need with convenience. If you have a baby/toddler that needs it's diaper changed and the table is in the handicap bathroom stall, you have a need to be in there. If you have to go to the bathroom and all the other stalls are occupied, you have a need to be in there. If non-handicapped stalls are available and you just need to go to the bathroom, change your clothes or monitor your 5 year old, you have no need for the extra features provided by a handicap bathroom stall. And just because you have never seen a person waiting, doesn't mean there never has been. Far as you know someone could of came in just wanting to dump their urine bag, seen the only handicapped stall was in use, turned around and went outside to wait or find another bathroom.

The real question is, why do you feel you need to use the handicap stall when you don't have a true need? Is it merely just for your convenience? Extra privacy? What compels you to possibly make someone wait when you don't have to?

You seem to think I make a regular habit out of this. I've changed in the airport Enterprise counter bathroom maybe three times. They were small bathrooms and I would have heard if someone came in. Yes, it was for my convenience, and as I have said over and over, I inconvenienced no one in those three times. I don't relish changing in bathrooms believe it or not, and I'm not going to balance my luggage on a toilet while I try to change when there's an empty stall no one needs right there. Look, I waited countless times for the bathroom stall to open up when I was in the throes of diaper changing. I didn't freak out about it. I waited. It didn't cause the world to stop turning. As for assisting my 5 year old, that's my prerogative as a parent, to assist in a way that doesn't have me hovering over her. The only times this is happening now is when she's in a wet one-piece bathing suit. All other times I'm able to wait outside, but I assisted when she needed it, and it's not for you to tell me that's not a need. These are needs, as defined by me, and I know for a fact that I've never inconvenienced anyone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You seem to think I make a regular habit out of this. I've changed in the airport Enterprise counter bathroom maybe three times. They were small bathrooms and I would have heard if someone came in. Yes, it was for my convenience, and as I have said over and over, I inconvenienced no one in those three times. I don't relish changing in bathrooms believe it or not, and I'm not going to balance my luggage on a toilet while I try to change when there's an empty stall no one needs right there. Look, I waited countless times for the bathroom stall to open up when I was in the throes of diaper changing. I didn't freak out about it. I waited. It didn't cause the world to stop turning. As for assisting my 5 year old, that's my prerogative as a parent, to assist in a way that doesn't have me hovering over her. The only times this is happening now is when she's in a wet one-piece bathing suit. All other times I'm able to wait outside, but I assisted when she needed it, and it's not for you to tell me that's not a need. These are needs, as defined by me, and I know for a fact that I've never inconvenienced anyone.

And you know for a fact you never will in the future. Care to tell us the next Mega Millions or Powerball numbers?

[Anonymous]

I'm 26, have cancer, and have started chemo. As long as I have my hair, you'll assume I'm perfectly healthy. I'm still going to park in the handicap spot though since I can't climb the stairs to my bedroom without sitting down. What the fuck does it matter to you, the able bodied person with no hang tag?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are you for real? Where does it say handicapped stalls are to be immediately accessible, 24/7? Do people in wheelchairs never wait?

People in wheelchairs on average wait longer than those that are not. The reason is simple: If there are say 4 stalls in a bathroom, 3 normal and 1 handicapped, to the wheelchair user there is really only one stall. It's like the other 3 don't exist. So they must wait when that one handicapped stall is occupied even if all the other 3 are open. For people that have the option to use all 4, they only have to wait when all 4 are occupied.

Okay, so what happens when someone in a wheelchair is in the stall, and another person with a wheelchair shows up? Does the new arrival scream "I don't have to wait!" and get to kick out the occupant?

[Anonymous]

The ironic thing is that if OP had a child who didn't appear disabled and someone said something to her about having a handicap placard, she'd probably go apeshit

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you for real? Where does it say handicapped stalls are to be immediately accessible, 24/7? Do people in wheelchairs never wait?

People in wheelchairs on average wait longer than those that are not. The reason is simple: If there are say 4 stalls in a bathroom, 3 normal and 1 handicapped, to the wheelchair user there is really only one stall. It's like the other 3 don't exist. So they must wait when that one handicapped stall is occupied even if all the other 3 are open. For people that have the option to use all 4, they only have to wait when all 4 are occupied.

Okay, so what happens when someone in a wheelchair is in the stall, and another person with a wheelchair shows up? Does the new arrival scream "I don't have to wait!" and get to kick out the occupant?

They wait while watching others come and go using the non-handicap stalls, when the other wheelchair user finishes, then they go in.

[Anonymous]

The handicap stall is not just for wheelchair users. It is for the disabled.

[Anonymous]

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But I do need it. To change my clothes and attend to my 5 year old. Yes, I can do that. Handicap does not mean "no waiting, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever." They can wait the 1 minute that I'll be in there with my kid. Just like I routinely wait to use the restroom.

You don't need it. Change your clothes elsewhere and teach your 5 year old better manners.

[Anonymous]

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But I do need it. To change my clothes and attend to my 5 year old. Yes, I can do that. Handicap does not mean "no waiting, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever." They can wait the 1 minute that I'll be in there with my kid. Just like I routinely wait to use the restroom.

You don't need it. Change your clothes elsewhere and teach your 5 year old better manners.

What does a 5 year old's manners have to do with anything? Perhaps you need a dose of some yourself.

[Anonymous]

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As for assisting my 5 year old, that's my prerogative as a parent, to assist in a way that doesn't have me hovering over her.

No, you do not decide on your own prerogatives. Your child's needs are no more important than anyone else's. Suppose you had a child with a disability waiting for the stall?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You seem to think I make a regular habit out of this. I've changed in the airport Enterprise counter bathroom maybe three times. They were small bathrooms and I would have heard if someone came in. Yes, it was for my convenience, and as I have said over and over, I inconvenienced no one in those three times. I don't relish changing in bathrooms believe it or not, and I'm not going to balance my luggage on a toilet while I try to change when there's an empty stall no one needs right there. Look, I waited countless times for the bathroom stall to open up when I was in the throes of diaper changing. I didn't freak out about it. I waited. It didn't cause the world to stop turning. As for assisting my 5 year old, that's my prerogative as a parent, to assist in a way that doesn't have me hovering over her. The only times this is happening now is when she's in a wet one-piece bathing suit. All other times I'm able to wait outside, but I assisted when she needed it, and it's not for you to tell me that's not a need. These are needs, as defined by me, and I know for a fact that I've never inconvenienced anyone.

And you know for a fact you never will in the future. Care to tell us the next Mega Millions or Powerball numbers?

As I said, I will gladly report it back here if it does. You will be the first to know. I get it though. Since you can't get mad at something that has never happened, you'll get mad at something that might perhaps some day in the future happen. And as I said, that's unhealthy. Perhaps you could focus on real problems that have actually occurred. This isn't one of them. I'm sorry that you've had to wait for a restroom. So have I. Quite often in fact. Life goes on.

[Anonymous]

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What does a 5 year old's manners have to do with anything? Perhaps you need a dose of some yourself.

Mine will do as they are, thank you, so I'll explain. The function of proper manners is to provide attention to the needs of everyone, not just yourself. By assuming certain "prerogatives" you're teaching your child to behave in a dreadfully offensive self-centered fashion. For her sake, stop doing it.

[Anonymous]

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As for assisting my 5 year old, that's my prerogative as a parent, to assist in a way that doesn't have me hovering over her.

No, you do not decide on your own prerogatives. Your child's needs are no more important than anyone else's. Suppose you had a child with a disability waiting for the stall?

Um, yeah, actually I do get decide how to parent my kid. And I'm the only one there. There is no one waiting when we use the handicapped restroom at the pool. There just aren't. No matter how many times people want there to be, there aren't.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think that main point is that unless somebody has put you in charge of handicapped-parking enforcement, you should mind your own business.

You do realize that all voting citizens are in charge of handicapped-parking? We are the ones that drive the legislation that defines the rules and regulations. It's not the doctor, it's not the cop, it's not the dmv, it's you and me. Come out of that closet and start participating in the process!

Oh please! MYOB!

[Anonymous]

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What does a 5 year old's manners have to do with anything? Perhaps you need a dose of some yourself.

Mine will do as they are, thank you, so I'll explain. The function of proper manners is to provide attention to the needs of everyone, not just yourself. By assuming certain "prerogatives" you're teaching your child to behave in a dreadfully offensive self-centered fashion. For her sake, stop doing it.

You are a raving lunatic. A 5 year old wants help getting out of a wet suit and now she's behaving in a dreadfully offensive self-centered fashion. I've heard it all now. She's five for crying out loud. All she sees is a bigger stall that she can get help with. So what, just in case someone might come along, I'm supposed to tell my kid to f off? I don't think so. You're offensive.