(to whites on here) have you personally been in racist situations?

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Anonymous wrote:I am half white (and look white). I was once surrounded by a group of white college kids who were saying horrible things about another race of which I am half (the other half). It was horrible. I ended up telling them off and transferring colleges.

Oh wait did you mean experiencing racism as a white person? I am 99% sure this doesn't occur. I think white people read "social slights" as racism.

"Social slights" like being told to get my white ass out of "their"neighborhood? Like being beaten up by a group of blacks shouting "FUCK YOU, WHITEY"? Like finding a giant loogie in my sandwich at an AA-owned deli?

Those kind of "social slights?"

Well you could be pursued, accosted & shot dead simply because the color of your skin reduces you to a violent caricature and not a human being minding their own business. You could be followed in most stores because you can only be up to no good because of your skin color. You could be constantly stopped by police because an incident that happened was perpetrated by someone of your same skin color & you are automatically a suspect. You could be shot dead by those cops & the cops receive promotions for getting rid of "the issue." You can be denied employment or promotional opportunities because of the color of you skin. To compare, white people really don't have it all that bad! Congrats your privilege and entitlement serves you well!

NP here and you sound like an idiot. Just because you feel white people don't receive racist remarks does not mean it doesn't happen. I'm not white myself and want to slap half the posters on here who are seemingly white for some of their comments but to say that one race has it worst so the race that receives less negativity shouldn't complain is ridiculous.

You damn right I laugh at these stories because of this pp here:"I don't have to care what they think bc my people run shit. Racism against minorities by white people has bad real-world consequences... vice versa, usually not so much." You can sit here & feel for whites whose stories will never impact their lives like other races like the idiot that you sound like.

And you just explained my "social slight," thank you. Having people be mean to you or call you names is not the same as the systemic racism we have in America. Sorry that people said some things that were not nice but take comfort that the system, overall, isn't rigged for your failure! Reverse racism is a fantasy, like unicorns, fairies, and Hobbits.

It's not fantasy. It does really happen. It has happened to me, blatantly. But I wouldn't for a second say it's anywhere near as big a deal as plain-old usual racism. You're making a mistake turning this thread into a contest. Only an idiot would argue the other side of that contest -- no, of course as a white person I don't believe i've experienced more racism or worse racism than other groups who have traditionally dealt with racism. But that doesn't mean that racism against white people doesn't happn. It does. The OP ("youngBlackDude", so I'm guessing a black guy unless he's into really misleading names) asked whether it has happened to people. Some of the examples really seem like racism. Some don't. Saying it NEVER happens and is just fantasy just makes you not sound very smart.

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Anonymous wrote:While not racism, I experienced a race-based decision that significantly impacted my career. I was an associate at a law firm along with a very competent African American woman. I was told in different ways but very clearly by four, yes four, partners that the firm would not be making more than one partner from our group, and that I would not make partner unless the African American woman left the firm. Three of these partners stated that I was generally considered the top choice for partnership based on my legal skills and client relations, but that the firm needed to increase diversity. These and other partners assisted me in finding another job outside of the firm, which turned out well in the end, but I still regret not having been able to compete fairly for partnership after years of working many, many hours. I do not begrudge the African American attorney at all, and found her to be both competent and a personally terrific individual. I am now much more careful, though, To avoid professional situations and which my primary competitors for promotion are African American or other underrepresented minorities. I have also experienced probably a handful of minor racially charged events. Nothing, however, that would rise to the level of affecting my day today life in any way.

You know, this kind of thing sucks, but mostly it sucks that it still kind of needs to happen. That black woman had to work a thousand times harder than you to get where she was, no matter her socioeconomic status growing up.

I disagree. I know her very well. She had a much, much more privileged background than I did, with parents who were high-educated professionals. She was raised in a wealthy community and attended the best private schools. I did not have any if these benefits, and the relatively amorphous claims that I have had white privilege my whole life don't in my view hold a candle to the actual tangible be edits and luxuries she was raised with. I liked her very much, and respect her professionally and personally, but to say that she had to work harder than I did based on some pretty extensive assumptions just avoids one if the main issues here. For what it's worth, I'm actually in favor of affirmative action as well as organizations consciously expanding diversity. But to make it seem that she worked harder than I dud to get to the point of partnership at a law firm is way off base in this case.

I still respectfully disagree. She has to work harder to be taken seriously no matter where she's from (unless like the whole room automatically knows she is the daughter of somebody super famous). But maybe she didn't have to work harder to get there (if you're a woman, but if you're a white man she certainly still did), but she definitely had to put up with a lot more shit.

Yes, she had to put up with race shit. I don't know what else she had to put up with because whoever knows what goes on in a family growing up. I had to "put up" with poverty, a severely alcoholic father, working at least 20-25 hours per week throughout high school and putting myself through college and law school, and a chronic (though no severe) illness. I'm not a victim, and I have had a good life. But to assume that someone had to work much harder than I did is unfounded. Race is not the only major, major characteristic or situation that can define a person's challenges and obstacles.

Again, I really like this other woman, and have absolutely nothing against her. But don't go telling me this decision was based on who was better qualified or who worked harder.

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Anonymous wrote:While not racism, I experienced a race-based decision that significantly impacted my career. I was an associate at a law firm along with a very competent African American woman. I was told in different ways but very clearly by four, yes four, partners that the firm would not be making more than one partner from our group, and that I would not make partner unless the African American woman left the firm. Three of these partners stated that I was generally considered the top choice for partnership based on my legal skills and client relations, but that the firm needed to increase diversity. These and other partners assisted me in finding another job outside of the firm, which turned out well in the end, but I still regret not having been able to compete fairly for partnership after years of working many, many hours. I do not begrudge the African American attorney at all, and found her to be both competent and a personally terrific individual. I am now much more careful, though, To avoid professional situations and which my primary competitors for promotion are African American or other underrepresented minorities. I have also experienced probably a handful of minor racially charged events. Nothing, however, that would rise to the level of affecting my day today life in any way.

You know, this kind of thing sucks, but mostly it sucks that it still kind of needs to happen. That black woman had to work a thousand times harder than you to get where she was, no matter her socioeconomic status growing up.

Why is it insinuated that the AA employee had to work 1000 times harder?

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Yes I grew up as a white minority on an island.

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I am a white Jew. I had someone say , in front of me, that the Americans should just blow up Israel, because "who needs the f'in Jews anyway". He did not know I was Jewish. When I made a a face that said "did you really just say that", he asked if I was Jewish. I told him I was. He replied back saying " oh, you don't look like one. I guess you can't understand ". So I suppose it was not directed at me, but it was crazy to actually hear someone say it. My happy little ideal world was burst that day.

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Anonymous wrote:While not racism, I experienced a race-based decision that significantly impacted my career. I was an associate at a law firm along with a very competent African American woman. I was told in different ways but very clearly by four, yes four, partners that the firm would not be making more than one partner from our group, and that I would not make partner unless the African American woman left the firm. Three of these partners stated that I was generally considered the top choice for partnership based on my legal skills and client relations, but that the firm needed to increase diversity. These and other partners assisted me in finding another job outside of the firm, which turned out well in the end, but I still regret not having been able to compete fairly for partnership after years of working many, many hours. I do not begrudge the African American attorney at all, and found her to be both competent and a personally terrific individual. I am now much more careful, though, To avoid professional situations and which my primary competitors for promotion are African American or other underrepresented minorities. I have also experienced probably a handful of minor racially charged events. Nothing, however, that would rise to the level of affecting my day today life in any way.

You know, this kind of thing sucks, but mostly it sucks that it still kind of needs to happen. That black woman had to work a thousand times harder than you to get where she was, no matter her socioeconomic status growing up.

I disagree. I know her very well. She had a much, much more privileged background than I did, with parents who were high-educated professionals. She was raised in a wealthy community and attended the best private schools. I did not have any if these benefits, and the relatively amorphous claims that I have had white privilege my whole life don't in my view hold a candle to the actual tangible be edits and luxuries she was raised with. I liked her very much, and respect her professionally and personally, but to say that she had to work harder than I did based on some pretty extensive assumptions just avoids one if the main issues here. For what it's worth, I'm actually in favor of affirmative action as well as organizations consciously expanding diversity. But to make it seem that she worked harder than I dud to get to the point of partnership at a law firm is way off base in this case.

I still respectfully disagree. She has to work harder to be taken seriously no matter where she's from (unless like the whole room automatically knows she is the daughter of somebody super famous). But maybe she didn't have to work harder to get there (if you're a woman, but if you're a white man she certainly still did), but she definitely had to put up with a lot more shit.

Yes, she had to put up with race shit. I don't know what else she had to put up with because whoever knows what goes on in a family growing up. I had to "put up" with poverty, a severely alcoholic father, working at least 20-25 hours per week throughout high school and putting myself through college and law school, and a chronic (though no severe) illness. I'm not a victim, and I have had a good life. But to assume that someone had to work much harder than I did is unfounded. Race is not the only major, major characteristic or situation that can define a person's challenges and obstacles.

Again, I really like this other woman, and have absolutely nothing against her. But don't go telling me this decision was based on who was better qualified or who worked harder.

Okay, but as a white woman (you are a woman, right?) you are inherently valuable in America. Maybe not always in the ways you want, but you are. And I say this as a fellow white woman. I never said that she got the job because she worked harder, but I think that as a whole, your experience is incredibly rare compared to most affirmative action which generally does a little even out the very uneven playing field.

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Anonymous wrote:While not racism, I experienced a race-based decision that significantly impacted my career. I was an associate at a law firm along with a very competent African American woman. I was told in different ways but very clearly by four, yes four, partners that the firm would not be making more than one partner from our group, and that I would not make partner unless the African American woman left the firm. Three of these partners stated that I was generally considered the top choice for partnership based on my legal skills and client relations, but that the firm needed to increase diversity. These and other partners assisted me in finding another job outside of the firm, which turned out well in the end, but I still regret not having been able to compete fairly for partnership after years of working many, many hours. I do not begrudge the African American attorney at all, and found her to be both competent and a personally terrific individual. I am now much more careful, though, To avoid professional situations and which my primary competitors for promotion are African American or other underrepresented minorities. I have also experienced probably a handful of minor racially charged events. Nothing, however, that would rise to the level of affecting my day today life in any way.

You know, this kind of thing sucks, but mostly it sucks that it still kind of needs to happen. That black woman had to work a thousand times harder than you to get where she was, no matter her socioeconomic status growing up.

Why is it insinuated that the AA employee had to work 1000 times harder?

Have you lived in America? Can some black women chime in here?

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Anonymous wrote:While not racism, I experienced a race-based decision that significantly impacted my career. I was an associate at a law firm along with a very competent African American woman. I was told in different ways but very clearly by four, yes four, partners that the firm would not be making more than one partner from our group, and that I would not make partner unless the African American woman left the firm. Three of these partners stated that I was generally considered the top choice for partnership based on my legal skills and client relations, but that the firm needed to increase diversity. These and other partners assisted me in finding another job outside of the firm, which turned out well in the end, but I still regret not having been able to compete fairly for partnership after years of working many, many hours. I do not begrudge the African American attorney at all, and found her to be both competent and a personally terrific individual. I am now much more careful, though, To avoid professional situations and which my primary competitors for promotion are African American or other underrepresented minorities. I have also experienced probably a handful of minor racially charged events. Nothing, however, that would rise to the level of affecting my day today life in any way.

You know, this kind of thing sucks, but mostly it sucks that it still kind of needs to happen. That black woman had to work a thousand times harder than you to get where she was, no matter her socioeconomic status growing up.

I disagree. I know her very well. She had a much, much more privileged background than I did, with parents who were high-educated professionals. She was raised in a wealthy community and attended the best private schools. I did not have any if these benefits, and the relatively amorphous claims that I have had white privilege my whole life don't in my view hold a candle to the actual tangible be edits and luxuries she was raised with. I liked her very much, and respect her professionally and personally, but to say that she had to work harder than I did based on some pretty extensive assumptions just avoids one if the main issues here. For what it's worth, I'm actually in favor of affirmative action as well as organizations consciously expanding diversity. But to make it seem that she worked harder than I dud to get to the point of partnership at a law firm is way off base in this case.

I still respectfully disagree. She has to work harder to be taken seriously no matter where she's from (unless like the whole room automatically knows she is the daughter of somebody super famous). But maybe she didn't have to work harder to get there (if you're a woman, but if you're a white man she certainly still did), but she definitely had to put up with a lot more shit.

Yes, she had to put up with race shit. I don't know what else she had to put up with because whoever knows what goes on in a family growing up. I had to "put up" with poverty, a severely alcoholic father, working at least 20-25 hours per week throughout high school and putting myself through college and law school, and a chronic (though no severe) illness. I'm not a victim, and I have had a good life. But to assume that someone had to work much harder than I did is unfounded. Race is not the only major, major characteristic or situation that can define a person's challenges and obstacles.

Again, I really like this other woman, and have absolutely nothing against her. But don't go telling me this decision was based on who was better qualified or who worked harder.

Okay, but as a white woman (you are a woman, right?) you are inherently valuable in America. Maybe not always in the ways you want, but you are. And I say this as a fellow white woman. I never said that she got the job because she worked harder, but I think that as a whole, your experience is incredibly rare compared to most affirmative action which generally does a little even out the very uneven playing field.

Understood, and thank you. I was reacting to what you wrote, which specifically states that she had to work a thousand times harder tanni did to get where she was. I am generally in favor of affirmative action as well. But I am not going to undervalue my hard work just because an organization wantied to expand diversity. The unfortunate consequence, though, is that I have realized that I am responsible for ensuring I am not in that position again. So, I do take into account the racial makeup of groups I may be working with. I am not going to be put in that position again of being informed that I will not be considered fairly on the merits of my work. I realize, of course, that I am in a very fortunate position to have career options that even allow me to take these types of considerations into account. It's unfortunate, though, that as a result of the form's effort to increase diversity, I am much more hesitant to work in small groups with colleagues from underrepresented minority groups if I may be in competition with them eventually for promotion.

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Anonymous wrote:I am half white (and look white). I was once surrounded by a group of white college kids who were saying horrible things about another race of which I am half (the other half). It was horrible. I ended up telling them off and transferring colleges.

Oh wait did you mean experiencing racism as a white person? I am 99% sure this doesn't occur. I think white people read "social slights" as racism.

"Social slights" like being told to get my white ass out of "their"neighborhood? Like being beaten up by a group of blacks shouting "FUCK YOU, WHITEY"? Like finding a giant loogie in my sandwich at an AA-owned deli?

Those kind of "social slights?"

Well you could be pursued, accosted & shot dead simply because the color of your skin reduces you to a violent caricature and not a human being minding their own business. You could be followed in most stores because you can only be up to no good because of your skin color. You could be constantly stopped by police because an incident that happened was perpetrated by someone of your same skin color & you are automatically a suspect. You could be shot dead by those cops & the cops receive promotions for getting rid of "the issue." You can be denied employment or promotional opportunities because of the color of you skin. To compare, white people really don't have it all that bad! Congrats your privilege and entitlement serves you well!

The fact that racism towards minorities is harsher and more pervasive than it is towards whites doesn't make my experiences any less racist, you tool.

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When I first moved here, a black woman hung out a car, drunk, yelling something about a 'white bunny' as she drove by me... I literally only just found out (this is 10 yrs later) that it was slang for a white girl. At the time I just thought she was silly/drunk/hallucinating.

I think everyone has racist experiences but I don't think they are always overt. Nothing that makes me go home and cry, like against other people.

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Anonymous wrote:I am half white (and look white). I was once surrounded by a group of white college kids who were saying horrible things about another race of which I am half (the other half). It was horrible. I ended up telling them off and transferring colleges.

Oh wait did you mean experiencing racism as a white person? I am 99% sure this doesn't occur. I think white people read "social slights" as racism.

"Social slights" like being told to get my white ass out of "their"neighborhood? Like being beaten up by a group of blacks shouting "FUCK YOU, WHITEY"? Like finding a giant loogie in my sandwich at an AA-owned deli?

Those kind of "social slights?"

Well you could be pursued, accosted & shot dead simply because the color of your skin reduces you to a violent caricature and not a human being minding their own business. You could be followed in most stores because you can only be up to no good because of your skin color. You could be constantly stopped by police because an incident that happened was perpetrated by someone of your same skin color & you are automatically a suspect. You could be shot dead by those cops & the cops receive promotions for getting rid of "the issue." You can be denied employment or promotional opportunities because of the color of you skin. To compare, white people really don't have it all that bad! Congrats your privilege and entitlement serves you well!

NP here and you sound like an idiot. Just because you feel white people don't receive racist remarks does not mean it doesn't happen. I'm not white myself and want to slap half the posters on here who are seemingly white for some of their comments but to say that one race has it worst so the race that receives less negativity shouldn't complain is ridiculous.

You damn right I laugh at these stories because of this pp here:"I don't have to care what they think bc my people run shit. Racism against minorities by white people has bad real-world consequences... vice versa, usually not so much." You can sit here & feel for whites whose stories will never impact their lives like other races like the idiot that you sound like.

And you just explained my "social slight," thank you. Having people be mean to you or call you names is not the same as the systemic racism we have in America. Sorry that people said some things that were not nice but take comfort that the system, overall, isn't rigged for your failure! Reverse racism is a fantasy, like unicorns, fairies, and Hobbits.

It's not fantasy. It does really happen. It has happened to me, blatantly. But I wouldn't for a second say it's anywhere near as big a deal as plain-old usual racism. You're making a mistake turning this thread into a contest. Only an idiot would argue the other side of that contest -- no, of course as a white person I don't believe i've experienced more racism or worse racism than other groups who have traditionally dealt with racism. But that doesn't mean that racism against white people doesn't happn. It does. The OP ("youngBlackDude", so I'm guessing a black guy unless he's into really misleading names) asked whether it has happened to people. Some of the examples really seem like racism. Some don't. Saying it NEVER happens and is just fantasy just makes you not sound very smart.

I'm 1000% african american (I'm not with trolling) I'm just not stupid enough to think we(as in African Americans & Africans) are the only ones subject to racism.now I never said whites have racism as bad as us.but I know for a fact some blacks don't like whites & I wondered what the white users on here went threw even if its only 1 or 2 situations in their entire life. I've been threw the police racial profiling/having tough times finding a job.I've never been called a "n" by whites.but I've seen some situations I just wanted to know if whites on here got into situations or not

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Anonymous wrote:I am half white (and look white). I was once surrounded by a group of white college kids who were saying horrible things about another race of which I am half (the other half). It was horrible. I ended up telling them off and transferring colleges.

Oh wait did you mean experiencing racism as a white person? I am 99% sure this doesn't occur. I think white people read "social slights" as racism.

"Social slights" like being told to get my white ass out of "their"neighborhood? Like being beaten up by a group of blacks shouting "FUCK YOU, WHITEY"? Like finding a giant loogie in my sandwich at an AA-owned deli?

Those kind of "social slights?"

Well you could be pursued, accosted & shot dead simply because the color of your skin reduces you to a violent caricature and not a human being minding their own business. You could be followed in most stores because you can only be up to no good because of your skin color. You could be constantly stopped by police because an incident that happened was perpetrated by someone of your same skin color & you are automatically a suspect. You could be shot dead by those cops & the cops receive promotions for getting rid of "the issue." You can be denied employment or promotional opportunities because of the color of you skin. To compare, white people really don't have it all that bad! Congrats your privilege and entitlement serves you well!

NP here and you sound like an idiot. Just because you feel white people don't receive racist remarks does not mean it doesn't happen. I'm not white myself and want to slap half the posters on here who are seemingly white for some of their comments but to say that one race has it worst so the race that receives less negativity shouldn't complain is ridiculous.

You damn right I laugh at these stories because of this pp here:"I don't have to care what they think bc my people run shit. Racism against minorities by white people has bad real-world consequences... vice versa, usually not so much." You can sit here & feel for whites whose stories will never impact their lives like other races like the idiot that you sound like.

And you just explained my "social slight," thank you. Having people be mean to you or call you names is not the same as the systemic racism we have in America. Sorry that people said some things that were not nice but take comfort that the system, overall, isn't rigged for your failure! Reverse racism is a fantasy, like unicorns, fairies, and Hobbits.

It's not fantasy. It does really happen. It has happened to me, blatantly. But I wouldn't for a second say it's anywhere near as big a deal as plain-old usual racism. You're making a mistake turning this thread into a contest. Only an idiot would argue the other side of that contest -- no, of course as a white person I don't believe i've experienced more racism or worse racism than other groups who have traditionally dealt with racism. But that doesn't mean that racism against white people doesn't happn. It does. The OP ("youngBlackDude", so I'm guessing a black guy unless he's into really misleading names) asked whether it has happened to people. Some of the examples really seem like racism. Some don't. Saying it NEVER happens and is just fantasy just makes you not sound very smart.

DP here. Voice of wisdom. Thanks, pp.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. About 17 years ago, when Barry was still mayor, I was stopped by a DC cop allegedly for making an illegal right turn on red. I say "allegedly" because I was very familiar with the intersection, which allowed right on red turns from the major street (from which I was turning) but not the intersecting minor side street. But yet there was the sign, turned and a bit askew, as if it had been turned by someone or perhaps something to face the major street. When I pointed it out to the MPD officer he said "Shut up, or I'll do what I'd like to do." When I asked what that was, he (who was black) said "take your white ass to jail." I was shocked. I thought later about filing a complaint against the officer and taking the ticket to court, but MPD in those days was notoriously fickle (lots of recruits in the Barry era got hired even after multiple fails of the police exam), as was the DC government. I even considered moving out of the city, but decided to stay once Mayor Williams came in and things really started to improve.

Lol@"take your white ass to jail"..you're the first white person I've seen say something about police brutality I must admit

I know a man in flyover country who sued a city when he was called a "black boy" by city police offers during an encounter. He used the settlement from the lawsuit to pay for law school.

Yeah, good luck with suing the District goverment before a DC jury because a cop said "your white ass."

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I used to experience hostility, if not outright discrimination, in some DC government offices like the DMV. African American clerks would sometimes wait on AAs first, regardless of who was there first. Or they would be especially surly or sullen with non-AAs. I had an experience of asking an employee a question, only to be ignored and then told "I don't have to speak to you." In recent years, I don't detect the same hostile vibe, and customer service has improved A LOT.

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Sure, plenty of times. I've been called a kike by classmates, told go "get the hell out of here and go to Israel," etc. The more "civilized" remarks included something along the lines of "oh, what a pretty girl, too bad she is Jewish."