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[Anonymous]

The thing is in these schools with needy kids, there are not just low class sizes in the first 3 years of school. They seem to continue through elementary, middle, and high. And yet amazingly these kids still don't always improve? Why should the parents help out when the school provides all the additional resources?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The thing is in these schools with needy kids, there are not just low class sizes in the first 3 years of school. They seem to continue through elementary, middle, and high. And yet amazingly these kids still don't always improve? Why should the parents help out when the school provides all the additional resources?

Wow? Did you really just type that? You know you sound like a really sad person.

Parents help out in their child's school because they want to be engaged. Because they care about their school community. Because they care about the success of all children. Because they want to help the teacher. Because they enjoy it. Because it doesn't matter whether the school in their community is a Title 1 school or an AAP center or a traditional school in a wealthy neighborhood--they simply want to make a difference by helping out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The thing is in these schools with needy kids, there are not just low class sizes in the first 3 years of school. They seem to continue through elementary, middle, and high. And yet amazingly these kids still don't always improve? Why should the parents help out when the school provides all the additional resources?

Indeed. We just keep enabling this. If schools didn't require kids to be potty trained, I am sure these same kids would be coming to school in diapers...lol.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The thing is in these schools with needy kids, there are not just low class sizes in the first 3 years of school. They seem to continue through elementary, middle, and high. And yet amazingly these kids still don't always improve? Why should the parents help out when the school provides all the additional resources?

Wow? Did you really just type that? You know you sound like a really sad person.

Parents help out in their child's school because they want to be engaged. Because they care about their school community. Because they care about the success of all children. Because they want to help the teacher. Because they enjoy it. Because it doesn't matter whether the school in their community is a Title 1 school or an AAP center or a traditional school in a wealthy neighborhood--they simply want to make a difference by helping out.

You misunderstood what the PP was saying. Read it again. She is talking about the parents of the kids that come in at the lower percentile who are most likely not getting much help at home...much less a foundation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The thing is in these schools with needy kids, there are not just low class sizes in the first 3 years of school. They seem to continue through elementary, middle, and high. And yet amazingly these kids still don't always improve? Why should the parents help out when the school provides all the additional resources?

Wow? Did you really just type that? You know you sound like a really sad person.

Parents help out in their child's school because they want to be engaged. Because they care about their school community. Because they care about the success of all children. Because they want to help the teacher. Because they enjoy it. Because it doesn't matter whether the school in their community is a Title 1 school or an AAP center or a traditional school in a wealthy neighborhood--they simply want to make a difference by helping out.

You misunderstood what the PP was saying. Read it again. She is talking about the parents of the kids that come in at the lower percentile who are most likely not getting much help at home...much less a foundation.

Got it. And now let me respond again. I do work in a Title 1 school in FCPS--had one of the highest percentage of free/reduced meals. By and large, the parents are doing everything they can. They are engaged in their child's education. The issue is that they may not always be available as I am for my own kids. They are working evening jobs and second shifts. They have had little education themselves. They do not speak the language. But they really want the best for their child and do everything they can to get their child to school and make sure their child is behaving in class. I see it everyday. Are there some parents that not pulling their weight? Absolutely. Those parents exist at every school, regardless of the household income. I have worked at schools with very wealthy families and seen parents that would barely lift a finger for their kids. The kids were starved for attention.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The thing is in these schools with needy kids, there are not just low class sizes in the first 3 years of school. They seem to continue through elementary, middle, and high. And yet amazingly these kids still don't always improve? Why should the parents help out when the school provides all the additional resources?

Wow? Did you really just type that? You know you sound like a really sad person.

Parents help out in their child's school because they want to be engaged. Because they care about their school community. Because they care about the success of all children. Because they want to help the teacher. Because they enjoy it. Because it doesn't matter whether the school in their community is a Title 1 school or an AAP center or a traditional school in a wealthy neighborhood--they simply want to make a difference by helping out.

You misunderstood what the PP was saying. Read it again. She is talking about the parents of the kids that come in at the lower percentile who are most likely not getting much help at home...much less a foundation.

Got it. And now let me respond again. I do work in a Title 1 school in FCPS--had one of the highest percentage of free/reduced meals. By and large, the parents are doing everything they can. They are engaged in their child's education. The issue is that they may not always be available as I am for my own kids. They are working evening jobs and second shifts. They have had little education themselves. They do not speak the language. But they really want the best for their child and do everything they can to get their child to school and make sure their child is behaving in class. I see it everyday. Are there some parents that not pulling their weight? Absolutely. Those parents exist at every school, regardless of the household income. I have worked at schools with very wealthy families and seen parents that would barely lift a finger for their kids. The kids were starved for attention.

Again, you are misinterpreting the post. Needy does not equal poor. Needy are those kids who are at the lower percentile of the class whatever the situation may be. Being engaged means being available...not 24/7, but enough to help with homework and work on any areas that are giving him/her issues. If that time is not allotted, then I don't consider that being engaged. I saw first graders who were just recognizing their ABCs and shapes along with counting apples in a picture and writing the number. Meanwhile, there were kids in the same class reading chapter books and working addition and subtraction math facts. Those same kids are the ones who are not getting their homework done, not turning their projects in on time if at all, and not having the confidence to even take or pass the SOLs. It is a good thing that SOLs don't count for moving forward. We can thank no child left behind for that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The thing is in these schools with needy kids, there are not just low class sizes in the first 3 years of school. They seem to continue through elementary, middle, and high. And yet amazingly these kids still don't always improve? Why should the parents help out when the school provides all the additional resources?

Wow? Did you really just type that? You know you sound like a really sad person.

Parents help out in their child's school because they want to be engaged. Because they care about their school community. Because they care about the success of all children. Because they want to help the teacher. Because they enjoy it. Because it doesn't matter whether the school in their community is a Title 1 school or an AAP center or a traditional school in a wealthy neighborhood--they simply want to make a difference by helping out.

You misunderstood what the PP was saying. Read it again. She is talking about the parents of the kids that come in at the lower percentile who are most likely not getting much help at home...much less a foundation.

Got it. And now let me respond again. I do work in a Title 1 school in FCPS--had one of the highest percentage of free/reduced meals. By and large, the parents are doing everything they can. They are engaged in their child's education. The issue is that they may not always be available as I am for my own kids. They are working evening jobs and second shifts. They have had little education themselves. They do not speak the language. But they really want the best for their child and do everything they can to get their child to school and make sure their child is behaving in class. I see it everyday. Are there some parents that not pulling their weight? Absolutely. Those parents exist at every school, regardless of the household income. I have worked at schools with very wealthy families and seen parents that would barely lift a finger for their kids. The kids were starved for attention.

Again, you are misinterpreting the post. Needy does not equal poor. Needy are those kids who are at the lower percentile of the class whatever the situation may be. Being engaged means being available...not 24/7, but enough to help with homework and work on any areas that are giving him/her issues. If that time is not allotted, then I don't consider that being engaged. I saw first graders who were just recognizing their ABCs and shapes along with counting apples in a picture and writing the number. Meanwhile, there were kids in the same class reading chapter books and working addition and subtraction math facts. Those same kids are the ones who are not getting their homework done, not turning their projects in on time if at all, and not having the confidence to even take or pass the SOLs. It is a good thing that SOLs don't count for moving forward. We can thank no child left behind for that.

Oh and you hit the nail on the head about those same kids, poor or rich, being starved for attention.