Just got AAP screening file from AAP teacher and My DC's GBRS was 9, NAT 145 and VQN 93.

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Anonymous wrote:PP, if that's right, then I think centers are no longer necessary, except for the profoundly gifted. I have a child in a center who would do fine in the base school if the program was accelerated like it is at the center. There are a few kids at the center who do really "need" a center, but it's not the 16% that is there now. PErhaps they should have local level IV for everyone except the PG and send them to centers. I guess the problem is that everyone on here would decide their kid is PG.

FCPS??? There is no need for this absurd waste of a program. Leave the smart kids where they belong in their base schools with just another level of differentiation so instead of three level the teachers would teach four (about 4 kids per class). This would stop the favoritism and truly offer the best available education to all kids by allowing students to move in and out based on ability. It would also eliminate the incredibly difficult game of maneuvering a ridiculous, biased, preferential, subjective process that in itself excludes. Top 1% is all that needs a special classroom.

So what happens at schools where there are four classes in a grade level and there are three Center eligible kids in the entire grade?

It is not about "center eligibility. Read the previous post! Just about any Tom , Dick and Sally can be center eligible if they "flutter" the right teachers "attention". Your child doesn't need a different school under the current "center eligibility". Only the top 1% need that. The special needs children need special teachers. The truly gifted need a special curriculum. Smart kids need differentiation just as the middle and lower level. It should be about getting the most from every child by allowing them open access to reach their highest potential. The AAP program as it is now Does Not Even Come Close! The solution is obvious.

And that's the four Center eligible kids I am referring to.

So just $crew them since they happen to be at a school that doesn't have other kids in the same 1%?

Top1% go to center for "gifted" , "genius" the rest don't get screwed they get the top level differentiation . In this way all children would have open access to move ahead. If differentiation is screwing kids then FCPS is screwing 75 % of the kids in the county.

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Anonymous wrote:PP, if that's right, then I think centers are no longer necessary, except for the profoundly gifted. I have a child in a center who would do fine in the base school if the program was accelerated like it is at the center. There are a few kids at the center who do really "need" a center, but it's not the 16% that is there now. PErhaps they should have local level IV for everyone except the PG and send them to centers. I guess the problem is that everyone on here would decide their kid is PG.

FCPS??? There is no need for this absurd waste of a program. Leave the smart kids where they belong in their base schools with just another level of differentiation so instead of three level the teachers would teach four (about 4 kids per class). This would stop the favoritism and truly offer the best available education to all kids by allowing students to move in and out based on ability. It would also eliminate the incredibly difficult game of maneuvering a ridiculous, biased, preferential, subjective process that in itself excludes. Top 1% is all that needs a special classroom.

So what happens at schools where there are four classes in a grade level and there are three Center eligible kids in the entire grade?

It is not about "center eligibility. Read the previous post! Just about any Tom , Dick and Sally can be center eligible if they "flutter" the right teachers "attention". Your child doesn't need a different school under the current "center eligibility". Only the top 1% need that. The special needs children need special teachers. The truly gifted need a special curriculum. Smart kids need differentiation just as the middle and lower level. It should be about getting the most from every child by allowing them open access to reach their highest potential. The AAP program as it is now Does Not Even Come Close! The solution is obvious.

And that's the four Center eligible kids I am referring to.

So just $crew them since they happen to be at a school that doesn't have other kids in the same 1%?

Top1% go to center for "gifted" , "genius" the rest don't get screwed they get the top level differentiation . In this way all children would have open access to move ahead. If differentiation is screwing kids then FCPS is screwing 75 % of the kids in the county.

At a school with such low numbers at the top 1% it will be next-to-impossible to differentiate for them. Plus these "lucky" kids get to be with the super-small "cohort" for 4 years of ES.

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Top 1%? Special elementary school classes for the top 1% of students!

Someone, anyone show me an elementry school system that has a differentiated education for the top 1% of students in this country or anywhere else in the world. Romania under Chauchescu? The secret underground elementary schools in N. Korea - where the 1% "truely gifted" students get all the free protein that they can eat for lunch perhaps?

Way back when AAP was called Gifted and Talented (GT), it was for the top 7% or so. I am sure that FCPS is going to jump right on this plan.

This hijacked thread gets more silly as each day goes by...

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Top 1%? Special elementary school classes for the top 1% of students!

Someone, anyone show me an elementry school system that has a differentiated education for the top 1% of students in this country or anywhere else in the world. Romania under Chauchescu? The secret underground elementary schools in N. Korea - where the 1% "truely gifted" students get all the free protein that they can eat for lunch perhaps?

Way back when AAP was called Gifted and Talented (GT), it was for the top 7% or so. I am sure that FCPS is going to jump right on this plan.

This hijacked thread gets more silly as each day goes by...

that is all that are deserving of a special school. All the rest is absolutly nonsense! An all of you know it.

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Anonymous wrote:PP, if that's right, then I think centers are no longer necessary, except for the profoundly gifted. I have a child in a center who would do fine in the base school if the program was accelerated like it is at the center. There are a few kids at the center who do really "need" a center, but it's not the 16% that is there now. PErhaps they should have local level IV for everyone except the PG and send them to centers. I guess the problem is that everyone on here would decide their kid is PG.

FCPS??? There is no need for this absurd waste of a program. Leave the smart kids where they belong in their base schools with just another level of differentiation so instead of three level the teachers would teach four (about 4 kids per class). This would stop the favoritism and truly offer the best available education to all kids by allowing students to move in and out based on ability. It would also eliminate the incredibly difficult game of maneuvering a ridiculous, biased, preferential, subjective process that in itself excludes. Top 1% is all that needs a special classroom.

So what happens at schools where there are four classes in a grade level and there are three Center eligible kids in the entire grade?

It is not about "center eligibility. Read the previous post! Just about any Tom , Dick and Sally can be center eligible if they "flutter" the right teachers "attention". Your child doesn't need a different school under the current "center eligibility". Only the top 1% need that. The special needs children need special teachers. The truly gifted need a special curriculum. Smart kids need differentiation just as the middle and lower level. It should be about getting the most from every child by allowing them open access to reach their highest potential. The AAP program as it is now Does Not Even Come Close! The solution is obvious.

And that's the four Center eligible kids I am referring to.

So just $crew them since they happen to be at a school that doesn't have other kids in the same 1%?

Top1% go to center for "gifted" , "genius" the rest don't get screwed they get the top level differentiation . In this way all children would have open access to move ahead. If differentiation is screwing kids then FCPS is screwing 75 % of the kids in the county.

At a school with such low numbers at the top 1% it will be next-to-impossible to differentiate for them. Plus these "lucky" kids get to be with the super-small "cohort" for 4 years of ES.

"Next to impossible! Small cohort for 4 years". Just keep raising your entitled, judgmental, snotty children you'll get your payback in due time. Remember, "I told you so"

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Anonymous wrote:Remember, "I told you so"

I'll remember, ignorant anonymous poster on the interwebs. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

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Anonymous wrote:Remember, "I told you so"

I'll remember, ignorant anonymous poster on the interwebs. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!![

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP, if that's right, then I think centers are no longer necessary, except for the profoundly gifted. I have a child in a center who would do fine in the base school if the program was accelerated like it is at the center. There are a few kids at the center who do really "need" a center, but it's not the 16% that is there now. PErhaps they should have local level IV for everyone except the PG and send them to centers. I guess the problem is that everyone on here would decide their kid is PG.

FCPS??? There is no need for this absurd waste of a program. Leave the smart kids where they belong in their base schools with just another level of differentiation so instead of three level the teachers would teach four (about 4 kids per class). This would stop the favoritism and truly offer the best available education to all kids by allowing students to move in and out based on ability. It would also eliminate the incredibly difficult game of maneuvering a ridiculous, biased, preferential, subjective process that in itself excludes. Top 1% is all that needs a special classroom.

So what happens at schools where there are four classes in a grade level and there are three Center eligible kids in the entire grade?

It is not about "center eligibility. Read the previous post! Just about any Tom , Dick and Sally can be center eligible if they "flutter" the right teachers "attention". Your child doesn't need a different school under the current "center eligibility". Only the top 1% need that. The special needs children need special teachers. The truly gifted need a special curriculum. Smart kids need differentiation just as the middle and lower level. It should be about getting the most from every child by allowing them open access to reach their highest potential. The AAP program as it is now Does Not Even Come Close! The solution is obvious.

And that's the four Center eligible kids I am referring to.

So just $crew them since they happen to be at a school that doesn't have other kids in the same 1%?

Top1% go to center for "gifted" , "genius" the rest don't get screwed they get the top level differentiation . In this way all children would have open access to move ahead. If differentiation is screwing kids then FCPS is screwing 75 % of the kids in the county.

The top wone percent would be 120 kids per grade. TJ is less selective than that. And there could be one school really for the county for those kids. I am not bussing my 3rd grader from great falls to god knows where.

The current system, in spite of its flaws seems to work.

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The thing is...i want my kid in aap because I don't want dc to be bullied, again, by the low income, esol kid that the school won't suspend, since the bully gets 2 of 3 meals for free at the school.

Aap has become the way for parents to protect their offspring. Aap is like protective custody in prison. Aap kids aren't forced to mingle or coexist with those in general population. They eat at separate times, take their own aap kid bus on field trips, have their own time at recess. It is what it is!

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Anonymous wrote:The thing is...i want my kid in aap because I don't want dc to be bullied, again, by the low income, esol kid that the school won't suspend, since the bully gets 2 of 3 meals for free at the school.

Aap has become the way for parents to protect their offspring. Aap is like protective custody in prison. Aap kids aren't forced to mingle or coexist with those in general population. They eat at separate times, take their own aap kid bus on field trips, have their own time at recess. It is what it is!

This varies by school, apparently. At my child's center school. the whole grade has lunch and recess at the same times and they all take field trips together. PE is mixed and so are band, orchestra, and chorus.

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Anonymous wrote:The thing is...i want my kid in aap because I don't want dc to be bullied, again, by the low income, esol kid that the school won't suspend, since the bully gets 2 of 3 meals for free at the school.

Aap has become the way for parents to protect their offspring. Aap is like protective custody in prison. Aap kids aren't forced to mingle or coexist with those in general population. They eat at separate times, take their own aap kid bus on field trips, have their own time at recess. It is what it is!

This varies by school, apparently. At my child's center school. the whole grade has lunch and recess at the same times and they all take field trips together. PE is mixed and so are band, orchestra, and chorus.

As it should be. This is the model FCPS wants going forward.

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Anonymous wrote:The thing is...i want my kid in aap because I don't want dc to be bullied, again, by the low income, esol kid that the school won't suspend, since the bully gets 2 of 3 meals for free at the school.

Aap has become the way for parents to protect their offspring. Aap is like protective custody in prison. Aap kids aren't forced to mingle or coexist with those in general population. They eat at separate times, take their own aap kid bus on field trips, have their own time at recess. It is what it is!

You should not have to be hoping for AAP to get your DC away from bullies. I believe that there is zero tolerance for bullies in FCPS, although your experience may say otherwise. Have you communicated with the school counselor for your DC's grade and the school principal? It sounds like you've made an effort but just checking. Is the bullying continuing to happen?

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Anonymous wrote:The thing is...i want my kid in aap because I don't want dc to be bullied, again, by the low income, esol kid that the school won't suspend, since the bully gets 2 of 3 meals for free at the school.

Aap has become the way for parents to protect their offspring. Aap is like protective custody in prison. Aap kids aren't forced to mingle or coexist with those in general population. They eat at separate times, take their own aap kid bus on field trips, have their own time at recess. It is what it is!

This varies by school, apparently. At my child's center school. the whole grade has lunch and recess at the same times and they all take field trips together. PE is mixed and so are band, orchestra, and chorus.

I cannot believe we are having this conversation. Really? If your post was serious (there is a tongue-in-cheek quality to it) I sympathize with your child's situation but, really, why tie the bully's behavior to his/her race and family income? Again, really???

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Anonymous wrote:The thing is...i want my kid in aap because I don't want dc to be bullied, again, by the low income, esol kid that the school won't suspend, since the bully gets 2 of 3 meals for free at the school.

Aap has become the way for parents to protect their offspring. Aap is like protective custody in prison. Aap kids aren't forced to mingle or coexist with those in general population. They eat at separate times, take their own aap kid bus on field trips, have their own time at recess. It is what it is!

This varies by school, apparently. At my child's center school. the whole grade has lunch and recess at the same times and they all take field trips together. PE is mixed and so are band, orchestra, and chorus.

I cannot believe we are having this conversation. Really? If your post was serious (there is a tongue-in-cheek quality to it) I sympathize with your child's situation but, really, why tie the bully's behavior to his/her race and family income? Again, really???

Yes, please tell me that your post was not for real. I am amazed at how racist the moms on DCUM are. BTW - my child's first grade class was half low income & ESOL (low income apartments feed into the school). I volunteered to help with reading and found that the children who were ESOL & low income were the best behaved out of the bunch. I am wondering if I should move to Montgomery County to get away from all of you crazy NOVA moms.

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Agreed, but DCUM isn't the only source of racism - it is alive in well in all realms of society and it is appalling. I was surprised that one of my son's friends, who happens to be half-Asian and lives in a rented apartment, said he doesn't like to go to a certain location because of all of the "Spanish people there". Then (in a VERY proud parenting moment), my son, replied with, "Well, it is just like MLK Jr. said - it is not the color of the skin, but the contact of the character that counts." This 8 year old boy didn't come up with this on his own - he learned it from his parents behavior.