Beauvoir Head has resigned with over a year's advance notice

[Anonymous]

The decline in outplacement corresponds with the departure of the long-time head of outplacement, who was extremely successful in the job. He now heads NCRC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The decline in outplacement corresponds with the departure of the long-time head of outplacement, who was extremely successful in the job. He now heads NCRC.

He was terrific at his job, it's true. However, there have been two replacements since then. The "spotty year" - 2016-2017 coincided with 1) a not-so-strong class, which occasionally happens, even at Beauvoir; and 2) an outplacement counselor hired by the former HOS (who only lasted two years). It was a bad hiring decision. The person had no qualifications for the outplacement job.

A new outplacement counselor was hired (current one). Placement in 2017-2018 was great, and 2018-2019 looks to be on track, too.

Seriously, how many schools do you know of where 88% of the students get their first choice?

[Anonymous]

How you call a bunch of third graders a not strong class? I do not buy into this. Would the correct thing to ponder is were they not prepared and why?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How you call a bunch of third graders a not strong class? I do not buy into this. Would the correct thing to ponder is were they not prepared and why?

How arrogant of you to assume you know what constitutes a strong class. There are classes at every school that are temperamentally and intellectually stronger than others.

The class of 2017 for whatever reason had fewer bright kids and a bunch of spoiled, entitled ones whose parents actively reinforced their spoiled, entitled behavior. Several of them were rejected by STA because they were defiant to teachers during their admissions tour. Totally the right call.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The decline in outplacement corresponds with the departure of the long-time head of outplacement, who was extremely successful in the job. He now heads NCRC.

One spotty year does not mean anything. Last year they were back on track. They had great numbers going to the STA/NCS last year. Very high numbers. 30-35 kids out of classes of 45 being Beauvoir kids is amazing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The decline in outplacement corresponds with the departure of the long-time head of outplacement, who was extremely successful in the job. He now heads NCRC.

One spotty year does not mean anything. Last year they were back on track. They had great numbers going to the STA/NCS last year. Very high numbers. 30-35 kids out of classes of 45 being Beauvoir kids is amazing.

Last year was great to the Cathedral schools only. Not great for the rest of the class . K-8s routinely get 95 percent accepted to their first choice (at the more competitive 9th grade btw) and Beauvoir could only manage 88 percent. It’s not good enough for a school like Beauvoir. That’s a placement failure for a school like Beauvoir. Ask the parents of the 10 kids who didn’t get in to their first choice how they feel about if you’re unsure about it. Look at the list of the other schools attended; it’s not what you would expect quite frankly as most of the schools were second or third choices back when kids applied to prek.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The decline in outplacement corresponds with the departure of the long-time head of outplacement, who was extremely successful in the job. He now heads NCRC.

One spotty year does not mean anything. Last year they were back on track. They had great numbers going to the STA/NCS last year. Very high numbers. 30-35 kids out of classes of 45 being Beauvoir kids is amazing.

Last year was great to the Cathedral schools only. Not great for the rest of the class . K-8s routinely get 95 percent accepted to their first choice (at the more competitive 9th grade btw) and Beauvoir could only manage 88 percent. It’s not good enough for a school like Beauvoir. That’s a placement failure for a school like Beauvoir. Ask the parents of the 10 kids who didn’t get in to their first choice how they feel about if you’re unsure about it. Look at the list of the other schools attended; it’s not what you would expect quite frankly as most of the schools were second or third choices back when kids applied to prek.

The 10 kids who didn't get their first choice would be about 12% of the Beauvoir class. Likely the least competitive 12%, because STA and NCS are "safeties" for most kids. However, some time between preK and 3rd grade, a lot of kids get diagnosed with learning disorders and ADD/ADHD. Sorry, but not everyone at Beauvoir is going to get into their first choice, because their first choice is often not an appropriate fit for them.

Sorry, but your data about K-8s routinely getting 95% accepted to first choice is totally outdated. With a 6-8% acceptance rate at 9th grade for Sidwell, STA, and GDS, there's no way that could be true. I've heard recently that even at 6th and 7th grades, the Big 3 have admissions rates under 10%. If that's true, it's no wonder that a small percentage of Beauvoir's kids did not get into their first choice.

As a long-time Beauvoir parent, I do feel for the kids who didn't get their first choice, however to call it a "failure" for Beauvoir is ridiculous. It sounds like some parents had unrealistic expectations for their children. I've known a number of kids at Beauvoir who are nice kids, but would never have been able to keep up academically at the Big 3. I think some of the parents refuse to accept that reality.

[Anonymous]

Getting in to a first choice school doesn’t always mean getting into a big 3, though that’s often the case. It could mean Sidwell or School Without Walls or Madeira or Gonzaga for a top athlete, for example. But outplacement should work with parents to ensure they have the best fit AND that they aren’t disappointed. The misalignment of expectations should be addressed so that families aren’t bitter about their experience when they leave. And admissions needs to screen better. For example, do other big 3 schools that intake at pre-K having the same percentage of kids diagnosed with learning disabilities?

[Anonymous]

Not all kids work hard enough to get into a good school. Glad the process works.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Getting in to a first choice school doesn’t always mean getting into a big 3, though that’s often the case. It could mean Sidwell or School Without Walls or Madeira or Gonzaga for a top athlete, for example. But outplacement should work with parents to ensure they have the best fit AND that they aren’t disappointed. The misalignment of expectations should be addressed so that families aren’t bitter about their experience when they leave. And admissions needs to screen better. For example, do other big 3 schools that intake at pre-K having the same percentage of kids diagnosed with learning disabilities?

Clearly, you don’t know much about learning disabilities. 8-10% of the population is estimated to have learning disabilities of some sort. Most cannot be diagnosed accurately at age 3 or 4 when applications for preK occur. A lot of kids are diagnosed in first or second grade.

No school is going to publicly release data on the percentage of kids with learning disabilities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Getting in to a first choice school doesn’t always mean getting into a big 3, though that’s often the case. It could mean Sidwell or School Without Walls or Madeira or Gonzaga for a top athlete, for example. But outplacement should work with parents to ensure they have the best fit AND that they aren’t disappointed. The misalignment of expectations should be addressed so that families aren’t bitter about their experience when they leave. And admissions needs to screen better. For example, do other big 3 schools that intake at pre-K having the same percentage of kids diagnosed with learning disabilities?

Clearly, you don’t know much about learning disabilities. 8-10% of the population is estimated to have learning disabilities of some sort. Most cannot be diagnosed accurately at age 3 or 4 when applications for preK occur. A lot of kids are diagnosed in first or second grade.

No school is going to publicly release data on the percentage of kids with learning disabilities.

Cool story, bro.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Getting in to a first choice school doesn’t always mean getting into a big 3, though that’s often the case. It could mean Sidwell or School Without Walls or Madeira or Gonzaga for a top athlete, for example. But outplacement should work with parents to ensure they have the best fit AND that they aren’t disappointed. The misalignment of expectations should be addressed so that families aren’t bitter about their experience when they leave. And admissions needs to screen better. For example, do other big 3 schools that intake at pre-K having the same percentage of kids diagnosed with learning disabilities?

Clearly, you don’t know much about learning disabilities. 8-10% of the population is estimated to have learning disabilities of some sort. Most cannot be diagnosed accurately at age 3 or 4 when applications for preK occur. A lot of kids are diagnosed in first or second grade.

No school is going to publicly release data on the percentage of kids with learning disabilities.

Cool story, bro.

PP, if you have any different data or information, please feel free to share. It is ludicrous to suggest that schools should screen kids for learning disabilities at preK.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How you call a bunch of third graders a not strong class? I do not buy into this. Would the correct thing to ponder is were they not prepared and why?

How arrogant of you to assume you know what constitutes a strong class. There are classes at every school that are temperamentally and intellectually stronger than others.

The class of 2017 for whatever reason had fewer bright kids and a bunch of spoiled, entitled ones whose parents actively reinforced their spoiled, entitled behavior. Several of them were rejected by STA because they were defiant to teachers during their admissions tour. Totally the right call.

Arrogant of me? You are calling a bunch of third graders not bright that would seem maybe you are pretty arrogant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How you call a bunch of third graders a not strong class? I do not buy into this. Would the correct thing to ponder is were they not prepared and why?

How arrogant of you to assume you know what constitutes a strong class. There are classes at every school that are temperamentally and intellectually stronger than others.

The class of 2017 for whatever reason had fewer bright kids and a bunch of spoiled, entitled ones whose parents actively reinforced their spoiled, entitled behavior. Several of them were rejected by STA because they were defiant to teachers during their admissions tour. Totally the right call.

Arrogant of me? You are calling a bunch of third graders not bright that would seem maybe you are pretty arrogant.

Oh, God. Another Millennial.

Try to get this through your head. I’ll say it nice and slow. Some. Kids.. Are. Smarter. Than. Others. Even. In. Third. Grade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The decline in outplacement corresponds with the departure of the long-time head of outplacement, who was extremely successful in the job. He now heads NCRC.

He was terrific at his job, it's true. However, there have been two replacements since then. The "spotty year" - 2016-2017 coincided with 1) a not-so-strong class, which occasionally happens, even at Beauvoir; and 2) an outplacement counselor hired by the former HOS (who only lasted two years). It was a bad hiring decision. The person had no qualifications for the outplacement job.

A new outplacement counselor was hired (current one). Placement in 2017-2018 was great, and 2018-2019 looks to be on track, too.

Seriously, how many schools do you know of where 88% of the students get their first choice?

Don’t a majority continue on to NCS/STA? Would that really be that hard to secure with students coming from Beauvoir?