elementary school that would welcome my biracial child?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Here are some examples of statements made...
[many statements you gathered]
These statement were made by your TP/SS neighbors. I would not describe them as welcoming. ...

See, this is where I have to call BS. I just went through the thread and checked every one of your listed quotations. Not a single one of them says anything about Takoma Park! One poster said she has kids in a Silver Spring school. But the rest of them could have come from anyone. I'm sorry you feel defensive about the criticism of Bethesda, but please don't redirect those negative feelings at Takoma Park.

You live in TP - name 1 other place - just 1 that you would recommend this family to go. See you can't because you think TP is the end all be all. It just is not. It's a great place but it is not the only place.

You don't know me, so please don't tell me what I think. I have not yet offered OP any suggestions on this thread -- not even for Takoma Park! -- and that's because I think most parts of close-in MoCo would meet her criteria. Most of the schools are good, and in my experience, most people will welcome diverse families. If OP really wants to see a rainbow of diversity in skin tones and ethnic backgrounds, I think she's more likely to find it in places like Silver Spring or Takoma than in places like Bethesda, but I don't know what she wants. Places like Wheaton and College Park will also have lots of diversity, but the schools might not be quite as strong there.

Too bad we've had to disagree here. I hope you have a nice day.
Anonymous
10:32 again. I made a mistake. One of your examples did mention Takoma Park, although it's apparently from someone who doesn't even live in Takoma Park. It seems a pretty reasonable and respectful post to me, but YMMV I suppose.
Rosemary Hills has been great for my kids who are biracial. Takoma Park would also be great. Check out the Great Schools website for info on demographics because some Montgomery County schools have very little diversity. We did not move to Bethesda for that very reason.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here are some examples of statements made...

To the extent there is diversity, it's because of the diplomats' kids.

We did not move to Bethesda for that very reason.

They think that because it is more black kids than they expected, and it makes them feel open-minded.

IMF and World Bank types want nothing to do with the countries

bizarre stuff going down in PTAs around Kentlands

Western MoCo are really emphasizing "freedom from poor people and other ethnic groups."

lilly white schools in Bethesda

"nicer" neighborhoods across MoCo included bans on non-whites and jews

1. IMF and WB are racist and don't count as minorities and diplomats kids don't count as diversity.
2. Kentland has some bizarre racism even in the PTA
3. West MoCo is freeing themselves from poor people.
4. Really - "lilly white" do you know how racist that statement is.

These statement were made by your TP/SS neighbors. I would not describe them as welcoming.

There are a min of 5 post suggesting SS/TP with about 10 posts dedicated to statistics. My throat is full already.

Hey if you work in Rockville - go to school in Rockville - like many posts suggest - or go north - it is cheaper and diverse.
After SS/TP/Bethesda/Potomac were settled - MoCo housing and urban development required moderately priced houses in every community built. They are in my community and now the people that moved in are home owners. Their kids play with my kids - they are of all races including white and they go to our school.

The commute to TP is insane. Live in SS or TP if you have to work in DC but not if you work in Rockville.

You live in TP - name 1 other place - just 1 that you would recommend this family to go. See you can't because you think TP is the end all be all. It just is not. It's a great place but it is not the only place.


What is your take on the statistics posted about Carderock, Somerset and Burning Tree Elementary Schools?

Are you suggesting that they are in fact diverse?


Can u break down the statistic further? If many of the white families are immigrants I would count them as more diverse than indicated. Since the poater is AA and we are specifically speaking of AA kids I would say there are not a lot.

I would also say that the AA kids in SS school will be disproportionately lower income than represented in other schools like Rockville. She may identify better with those kids - but I do not know her child so I would suggest visiting.

I would be careful with statistics though because the crime stats are not so great for 44 but maybe not reprwsentative of the community just like I don't think your statisyic are representative of diversity. My view of diversity goes past skin color.

A child from Peru/ElSalv/Columbia are different just like a md native/coratian/holland are not the same.

Sorry - on my phone - typing is challenging
Anonymous


What is your take on the statistics posted about Carderock, Somerset and Burning Tree Elementary Schools?

Are you suggesting that they are in fact diverse?

Can u break down the statistic further? If many of the white families are immigrants I would count them as more diverse than indicated. Since the poater is AA and we are specifically speaking of AA kids I would say there are not a lot.

I would also say that the AA kids in SS school will be disproportionately lower income than represented in other schools like Rockville. She may identify better with those kids - but I do not know her child so I would suggest visiting.

I would be careful with statistics though because the crime stats are not so great for 44 but maybe not reprwsentative of the community just like I don't think your statisyic are representative of diversity. My view of diversity goes past skin color.

A child from Peru/ElSalv/Columbia are different just like a md native/coratian/holland are not the same.

Sorry - on my phone - typing is challenging


I would not agree with this generalization. We are AA, live in Silver spring and most of the black kids in our school are either from educated, affluent African American families, or working class African immigrant families. We know many other affluent and educated black families in nearby schools.
How do you come up with that statement? People I know make the decision on SS vs rockville based on commute and comfort with suburbia, not affluence.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:


What is your take on the statistics posted about Carderock, Somerset and Burning Tree Elementary Schools?

Are you suggesting that they are in fact diverse?

Can u break down the statistic further? If many of the white families are immigrants I would count them as more diverse than indicated. Since the poater is AA and we are specifically speaking of AA kids I would say there are not a lot.

I would also say that the AA kids in SS school will be disproportionately lower income than represented in other schools like Rockville. She may identify better with those kids - but I do not know her child so I would suggest visiting.

I would be careful with statistics though because the crime stats are not so great for 44 but maybe not reprwsentative of the community just like I don't think your statisyic are representative of diversity. My view of diversity goes past skin color.

A child from Peru/ElSalv/Columbia are different just like a md native/coratian/holland are not the same.

Sorry - on my phone - typing is challenging


I would not agree with this generalization. We are AA, live in Silver spring and most of the black kids in our school are either from educated, affluent African American families, or working class African immigrant families. We know many other affluent and educated black families in nearby schools.
How do you come up with that statement? People I know make the decision on SS vs rockville based on commute and comfort with suburbia, not affluence.

Think u can get the stats on free lunch by race in MoCo somewhere but I am limited right now by my phone. Friends expressed their concern to me and my bro said his intention of living in Tp was not to have his kids think poor kids were kids of color.

A teacher in an elem school also expressed the disproportion when working the free breakfast shift.

I think it is normal though for kids to stay within their economic range when making friends.
Anonymous
I haven't read all of this thread, but honestly I think you would be OK anywhere in Montgomery County. My husband and I are of different races and our son was adopted and is of the same race as one of us. We live in a very diverse part of the county, but he goes to a private school that is quite a bit less diverse (vast majority white). It was chosen because of his learning style. I don't feel uncomfortable anywhere. What an introduction you have had to the wonderful world of DCUM!! Good luck!!
Anonymous
If you want statistics about particular schools and their students, they're all available here:
http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Here are some examples of statements made...

To the extent there is diversity, it's because of the diplomats' kids.

We did not move to Bethesda for that very reason.

They think that because it is more black kids than they expected, and it makes them feel open-minded.

IMF and World Bank types want nothing to do with the countries

bizarre stuff going down in PTAs around Kentlands

Western MoCo are really emphasizing "freedom from poor people and other ethnic groups."

lilly white schools in Bethesda

"nicer" neighborhoods across MoCo included bans on non-whites and jews

1. IMF and WB are racist and don't count as minorities and diplomats kids don't count as diversity.
2. Kentland has some bizarre racism even in the PTA
3. West MoCo is freeing themselves from poor people.
4. Really - "lilly white" do you know how racist that statement is.

These statement were made by your TP/SS neighbors. I would not describe them as welcoming.

There are a min of 5 post suggesting SS/TP with about 10 posts dedicated to statistics. My throat is full already.

Hey if you work in Rockville - go to school in Rockville - like many posts suggest - or go north - it is cheaper and diverse.
After SS/TP/Bethesda/Potomac were settled - MoCo housing and urban development required moderately priced houses in every community built. They are in my community and now the people that moved in are home owners. Their kids play with my kids - they are of all races including white and they go to our school.

The commute to TP is insane. Live in SS or TP if you have to work in DC but not if you work in Rockville.

You live in TP - name 1 other place - just 1 that you would recommend this family to go. See you can't because you think TP is the end all be all. It just is not. It's a great place but it is not the only place.


UMM, at least the statement about Kentlands was NOT made by a TP/SSer - as it was made by me, and I live in neither place.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


What is your take on the statistics posted about Carderock, Somerset and Burning Tree Elementary Schools?

Are you suggesting that they are in fact diverse?


Can u break down the statistic further? If many of the white families are immigrants I would count them as more diverse than indicated. Since the poater is AA and we are specifically speaking of AA kids I would say there are not a lot.

I would also say that the AA kids in SS school will be disproportionately lower income than represented in other schools like Rockville. She may identify better with those kids - but I do not know her child so I would suggest visiting.

I would be careful with statistics though because the crime stats are not so great for 44 but maybe not reprwsentative of the community just like I don't think your statisyic are representative of diversity. My view of diversity goes past skin color.

A child from Peru/ElSalv/Columbia are different just like a md native/coratian/holland are not the same.

Sorry - on my phone - typing is challenging


I would not agree with this generalization. We are AA, live in Silver spring and most of the black kids in our school are either from educated, affluent African American families, or working class African immigrant families. We know many other affluent and educated black families in nearby schools.
How do you come up with that statement? People I know make the decision on SS vs rockville based on commute and comfort with suburbia, not affluence.

Think u can get the stats on free lunch by race in MoCo somewhere but I am limited right now by my phone. Friends expressed their concern to me and my bro said his intention of living in Tp was not to have his kids think poor kids were kids of color.

A teacher in an elem school also expressed the disproportion when working the free breakfast shift.

I think it is normal though for kids to stay within their economic range when making friends.


It was unclear what you meant AA kids in a SS school will be disproportionately lower income. There is a difference between noting that of the low income kids, a disproportionate number may be AA (though in our experience it is often also Hispanic kids who qualify for FARMS), and saying a disproportionate number Of AA kids are low income. So, 30% of students may qualify for FARMS, and perhaps many of them are AA. But, of all the AA students at the school, maybe only 15% qualify for FARMS. So, 85% of AA students at the school are not low income.
Anonymous
Yes. - I meant it the way you stated it.
Anonymous
I'm still sticking by my College Gardens recommendation in Rockville. Lovely little school.
Anonymous
I second that.
Anonymous
Garrett Park poster here - and I, too, have heard wonderful things about College Gardens (that is, if you don't want to go to GPES ...)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here are some examples of statements made...

To the extent there is diversity, it's because of the diplomats' kids.

We did not move to Bethesda for that very reason.

They think that because it is more black kids than they expected, and it makes them feel open-minded.

IMF and World Bank types want nothing to do with the countries

bizarre stuff going down in PTAs around Kentlands

Western MoCo are really emphasizing "freedom from poor people and other ethnic groups."

lilly white schools in Bethesda

"nicer" neighborhoods across MoCo included bans on non-whites and jews

1. IMF and WB are racist and don't count as minorities and diplomats kids don't count as diversity.
2. Kentland has some bizarre racism even in the PTA
3. West MoCo is freeing themselves from poor people.
4. Really - "lilly white" do you know how racist that statement is.

These statement were made by your TP/SS neighbors. I would not describe them as welcoming.

There are a min of 5 post suggesting SS/TP with about 10 posts dedicated to statistics. My throat is full already.

Hey if you work in Rockville - go to school in Rockville - like many posts suggest - or go north - it is cheaper and diverse.
After SS/TP/Bethesda/Potomac were settled - MoCo housing and urban development required moderately priced houses in every community built. They are in my community and now the people that moved in are home owners. Their kids play with my kids - they are of all races including white and they go to our school.

The commute to TP is insane. Live in SS or TP if you have to work in DC but not if you work in Rockville.

You live in TP - name 1 other place - just 1 that you would recommend this family to go. See you can't because you think TP is the end all be all. It just is not. It's a great place but it is not the only place.


What is your take on the statistics posted about Carderock, Somerset and Burning Tree Elementary Schools?

Are you suggesting that they are in fact diverse?


Can u break down the statistic further? If many of the white families are immigrants I would count them as more diverse than indicated. Since the poater is AA and we are specifically speaking of AA kids I would say there are not a lot.

I would also say that the AA kids in SS school will be disproportionately lower income than represented in other schools like Rockville. She may identify better with those kids - but I do not know her child so I would suggest visiting.

I would be careful with statistics though because the crime stats are not so great for 44 but maybe not reprwsentative of the community just like I don't think your statisyic are representative of diversity. My view of diversity goes past skin color.

A child from Peru/ElSalv/Columbia are different just like a md native/coratian/holland are not the same.

Sorry - on my phone - typing is challenging



I am a previous PP who recommended Silver Spring and Takoma Park. There are plenty of us here who are not low income -- DH and I have a combined income over $200K and most of our friends and neighbors have the same. There are lots of professionals here -- including, on my block in Four Corners, an African American PhD psychologist and a Filipino American lawyer for a downtown firm. Next door to me is a college professor who has a biracial child. There are also more working class families. We all socialize, have block parties, and our kids play together. It's a pretty great neighborhood. Sure, there's slightly more crime (car break ins etc.) and you see more poverty in the areas surrounding us than you would in Chevy Chase. But it's not scary or dangerous.

My kids are in SS schools and have AA friends whose parents do not have college degrees and AA friends whose parents are lawyers, etc.

Many people with good salaries and educations choose to live in SS and TP for a number of different reasons. We are not the wealthiest part of the county for sure, and that's part of the benefit of SS/TP, if you look at it that way. But it's a very nice place to live.



Anonymous
16:26 here. I was counting it up in my head. My kids are both in ES and between them, I'm counting five kids that they know well in their classes who have one Caucasian and one African American parent, out of about fifty kids. There are at least as many who are "biracial" with one Hispanic parent.

So I would say that if OP is looking for a place where her child won't be the only kid with this background, this would be a likely place.
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