Bikers on MacArthur Blvd. MD

Anonymous
Bikers are terrifying on the bike paths, screaming "On your right," and then almost knock you over.


LOL

Bikes are too slow for the road and too fast for the bike paths, what to do?
Anonymous
Isn't it funny that the bikers complain about having to slow down for pedestrians but think drivers shouldn't complain about having to slow down for them?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Isn't it funny that the bikers complain about having to slow down for pedestrians but think drivers shouldn't complain about having to slow down for them?


THIS.
Anonymous
Velodromes. Build them. Stop endangering pedestrians on Beach Drive on weekends, joggers and kids on Capital Crescent Trail and drivers on curvy MacArthur Blvd. You are a narcissistic menace, you need to be in your own space.
Anonymous
I didn't see any bikers complaining that they had to slow down for pedestrians? Where are those comments, please? I saw pedestrians upset that bikers were actually riding bikes on the bike path.
Anonymous
Velodromes. Build them. Stop endangering pedestrians on Beach Drive on weekends, joggers and kids on Capital Crescent Trail and drivers on curvy MacArthur Blvd. You are a narcissistic menace, you need to be in your own space.


What about bicycle commuters? Are you really saying that every single biker is a menace?
Anonymous
I loathe bikers on the roads. If they followed the rules, it would be different. But they don't. They don't stop at stop signs. They take the right of way rather than yield the right of way. They swerve in and out of cars. They are just all around obnoxious. But it's no different on the sidewalks. My four year old was hit by a bike on the sidewalk near the zoo. I was holding his hand and the bike came up behind us screaming "passing!". He hit my son before I could figure out what was going on.

And don't even get me started on how utterly ridiculous they look dressed up in their tight, brightly colored bike shorts.

I love this:
Whenever and wherever I pass a biker in traffic I always hug the curb afterwards which forces them to stop or pass me on the left, risking their lives. F them.


I think I'm going to start doing exactly that!
ThatSmileyFaceGuy
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Anonymous wrote:I didn't see any bikers complaining that they had to slow down for pedestrians? Where are those comments, please? I saw pedestrians upset that bikers were actually riding bikes on the bike path.


But they do complain that someone dares to walk in the bike path
Anonymous
http://www.tbd.com/blogs/tbd-on-foot/2011/10/chuck-thies-postures-to-become-d-c-s-anti-biking-villain--13085.html

"To drive an automobile in the District truly does mean exercising great caution in regard to the number of bicyclists out there — as I've known and observed from experience when driving here — and I see this attitude reflected in the comments and personal remarks from other drivers I know here. Is this a fault of bicyclists? In many cases, no ... and both drivers and pedestrians behave in reckless ways themselves. Yet some drivers react like the pick-up driver in spirit, though less violently in action. They scoff at bicyclists, profess anger, dismiss them. It's a real reaction and reflects how some drivers feel the need to dig in and embrace a motorist pride that's distinctly anti-bike. Are cars threatened? Not truly, in my opinion."


Anonymous
My four year old was hit by a bike on the sidewalk near the zoo. I was holding his hand and the bike came up behind us screaming "passing!". He hit my son before I could figure out what was going on.


Which is why bikes belong on the road, not on the sidewalks.

Whenever and wherever I pass a biker in traffic I always hug the curb afterwards which forces them to stop or pass me on the left, risking their lives. F them.


I think I'm going to start doing exactly that


I am a mother of two who happens to ride a bike on the street. Is your attitude really "f her for riding a bike. I hope I endanger her life and leave her kids without a mother because she's not in a car? Really? Settle down already.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I loathe bikers on the roads. ... They take the right of way rather than yield the right of way. !


You do realize that bikes have a legal right to be on the road? There is no mandate that they yield the right of way? Maybe you need to go back to driving school?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let's call it what it is. This is about drivers who are pissed that they have to slow down. Everything else is window-dressing.

Look how many drivers blow the speed limit on that road. Who are you to throw the rule books at the cyclists? Oh the safety the safety you say. Right.


Even if that is true--and I'll admit, I absolutely get pissed off at having to drive 10 mph in a 25 zone because some weekend warrior is too cool for the bike path--so what? That's a perfectly natural and defensible reaction. How would cyclists feel if they had to ride behind pedestrians for 3 minutes at a time at a walking pace until it was safe to pass? To say nothing of the many near misses I've endured from cyclists as a pedestrian in a crosswalk? Get off your high horse. Speaking only for myself, I always give cyclists a wide berth, even if it is very frustrating, but it should be a two-way street.


You just hit on one of the reasons why cyclists ride on the road instead of the bike path along MacArthur, in Rock Creek, and other places. The paths are multi-use and if it's not pedestrians walking two, three, four abreast, it's someone with a dog on a retractable leash or a kid weaving around on a tricycle that cyclists often get caught behind until it's safe to pass. And yes, it can be a couple of minutes. For all the people who are anti-cyclist on MacArthur, where would you have people ride? The bike paths really are not conducive to riding for exercise -- if you don't believe me, go out and try to really ride -- so what other solutions are out there? People have already said Glen Echo killed bike lanes. Where do you want people to ride?


Why not do what you're advising drivers to do -- just deal with it?
Anonymous
Pocket guide to bicycle laws in DC / MD / VA
http://www.waba.org/resources/laws.php

How to report aggressive drivers in DC / MD / VA
http://www.smoothoperatorprogram.com/aggressive_reporting.html

How to avoid common crashes with cars
http://www.waba.org/education/documents/AvoidCommonCrashes.pdf
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:If there is a bike path, why do they need to be on the road. I am all for sharing the road where there is no lane or path for bikes. The fact that the path is not in good condition for riding shouldn't be an excuse. The roads are not in ultimate conditions and cars still need to use them. Also, that the path is being used by walkers and other bikers is not a good excuse either. Roads are full of cars and they are still used by cars.


Yes it is a good excuse. Pedestrian paths are riskier because you have kids who have no idea about safety, joggers with earbuds who can't hear any warnings, people stopping abruptly and turning around on the path with no thought that a bicycle might be coming their way.

Anyone with some common sense knows that the bigger risk is a bike-pedestrian collision.

Let's get right to it: you don't like the inconvenience of the cyclists.[u] Sure, there are some safety issues.but they are your red herring. Cyclist/Car collisions on MacArthur are as rare as hen's teeth. Stop the nonsense.


Actually, the signs on McArthur's path says "Bike path" not pedestrian. Kids who have no idea about safety, say something about their parents and besides, they should always be accompanied by them. Cyclists are not an inconvenience. Like I said, I'm all for road sharing. I don't mind waiting. However, where there is a path for bicycle use, it should be USED! Everything mentioned about the path just doesn't make sense to me, including the ones you listed.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If there is a bike path, why do they need to be on the road. I am all for sharing the road where there is no lane or path for bikes. The fact that the path is not in good condition for riding shouldn't be an excuse. The roads are not in ultimate conditions and cars still need to use them. Also, that the path is being used by walkers and other bikers is not a good excuse either. Roads are full of cars and they are still used by cars.


Yes it is a good excuse. Pedestrian paths are riskier because you have kids who have no idea about safety, joggers with earbuds who can't hear any warnings, people stopping abruptly and turning around on the path with no thought that a bicycle might be coming their way.

Anyone with some common sense knows that the bigger risk is a bike-pedestrian collision.

Let's get right to it: you don't like the inconvenience of the cyclists.[u] Sure, there are some safety issues.but they are your red herring. Cyclist/Car collisions on MacArthur are as rare as hen's teeth. Stop the nonsense.


Actually, the signs on McArthur's path says "Bike path" not pedestrian. Kids who have no idea about safety, say something about their parents and besides, they should always be accompanied by them. Cyclists are not an inconvenience. Like I said, I'm all for road sharing. I don't mind waiting. However, where there is a path for bicycle use, it should be USED! Everything mentioned about the path just doesn't make sense to me, including the ones you listed.


MoCo has admitted that this is a "de facto multi-use path", meaning that they know pedestrians use it and they will not prevent them from using it. This is why they proposed separate bike lanes, and guess who opposes it? MoCo residents. If a cyclist hits a pedestrian on that path, the signage does not change the traumatic outcome.
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