What happened to curing cancer or saving the world?

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Anonymous wrote:We are less than two years into the Trump poop show. You all asked for this. Because for some reason Kamala was the most horrible person on earth. Not president of her fan club, but she would have maintained some sense of normalcy and decency. Rather than blowing up this great American experiment. Which didn't need blowing up. Definitely needed some tweaking. But not this huge destruction of everything that was good in this country.

But keep watching Fox News for your daily dose of propaganda and thinking everything is hunky dory and Trump is a wonderful man whose sole purpose is to help you and not to line his pockets.

And the first person who replies with "TDS" or whatever else is proving my point and has an IQ of 12.

I voted for kamala but I would have voted for anyone other trump tbh.
But trump didn't win because half the country is suicidal.
He won because those voters didn't think the country needed tweaking, they thought it needed an overhaul.

They were sick of DEI and racial preferences.
White people were afraid that their children would experience downward social mobility under a government that seems super concerned about everyone but them.
The debate surrounding trans ideology had just enough kernels of outrageous incidents to snowball into a moral panic.
The democratic lack of focus on economic issues like inflation reinforced the stereotype that democrats suck at economics, despite all evidence to the contrary.
The coronation of Kamala as the Democratic candidate felt like the coronation of Hillary as the Democratic candidate.

Where do people get this stuff? Hillary won the primary. She had strong results across all demographics. Genuinely who do you think would’ve eclipsed Hillary Clinton? I can’t stand the woman and think she genuinely hates despises most people in this country, but to think she didn’t rightfully win the 2016 primary is borderline conspiratorial.

As she f—king should.

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Anonymous wrote:The students we know graduating from college have jobs in business, consulting, IB, and a few in engineering. Any more interesting new grad jobs that you know of?

That's EXACTLY why this whole college admissions process is a total scam. Everyone does the most idealistic and curated extracurriculars to get into the top schools only to end up working in consulting or finance. Then again, you have to remember that your kid's application is most likely going to be read by some 30 year old with a humanities degree making $45K a year, and you need to appeal to them as well.

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Anonymous wrote:I have been a teacher for 30 years. My kids are in finance, or heading there. They saw me work my ass off and struggle and they want a different path. I am thrilled.

Same. I’m a teacher and DH isn’t but is in a different field and works really hard. Our kids constantly say they don’t want to be like us and want high paying jobs. They don’t care if they love work but want to make money to do the things they do love. We fully support that. I would never want either of mine to teach.

What? Either they want to do the things they love or they don’t.

I think they are saying these kids are separating work from passion.

They were attempting to say that but then immediately contradicted themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:I have been a teacher for 30 years. My kids are in finance, or heading there. They saw me work my ass off and struggle and they want a different path. I am thrilled.

Same. I’m a teacher and DH isn’t but is in a different field and works really hard. Our kids constantly say they don’t want to be like us and want high paying jobs. They don’t care if they love work but want to make money to do the things they do love. We fully support that. I would never want either of mine to teach.

What? Either they want to do the things they love or they don’t.

I think they are saying these kids are separating work from passion.

They were attempting to say that but then immediately contradicted themselves.

I don't know about "passion" per se .. seriously, how many 15 and 16 year olds do you know who are genuinely passionate about topics like the effects of playing jazz music to shrimp or why cows align themselves with the earth's magnetic field while grazing -and yes, these are actual published studies ...
but you get the point. All high schoolers are playing the game. Most fake passion this stuff just to get their foot in the door, and eventually end up in consulting or finance.

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Anonymous wrote:We are less than two years into the Trump poop show. You all asked for this. Because for some reason Kamala was the most horrible person on earth. Not president of her fan club, but she would have maintained some sense of normalcy and decency. Rather than blowing up this great American experiment. Which didn't need blowing up. Definitely needed some tweaking. But not this huge destruction of everything that was good in this country.

But keep watching Fox News for your daily dose of propaganda and thinking everything is hunky dory and Trump is a wonderful man whose sole purpose is to help you and not to line his pockets.

And the first person who replies with "TDS" or whatever else is proving my point and has an IQ of 12.

I voted for kamala but I would have voted for anyone other trump tbh.
But trump didn't win because half the country is suicidal.
He won because those voters didn't think the country needed tweaking, they thought it needed an overhaul.

They were sick of DEI and racial preferences.
White people were afraid that their children would experience downward social mobility under a government that seems super concerned about everyone but them.
The debate surrounding trans ideology had just enough kernels of outrageous incidents to snowball into a moral panic.
The democratic lack of focus on economic issues like inflation reinforced the stereotype that democrats suck at economics, despite all evidence to the contrary.
The coronation of Kamala as the Democratic candidate felt like the coronation of Hillary as the Democratic candidate.

Where do people get this stuff? Hillary won the primary. She had strong results across all demographics. Genuinely who do you think would’ve eclipsed Hillary Clinton? I can’t stand the woman and think she genuinely hates despises most people in this country, but to think she didn’t rightfully win the 2016 primary is borderline conspiratorial.

As she f—king should.

+1

I wish there were a way for the consequences of the Trump administrations to fall squarely - and solely - on those who voted for him.

Natural consequences and an efficient culling of the herd, to the benefit of the rest of us.

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Kids that have their lives curated for test maxxing and aoplication maxxing get ECs and courses chosen to college max. They are hard pressed to know what they actually are interested in besides status and checking the right boxes. And anyone wonders where the passion went? These kids are acculturated to see college as a trade school route to an income .

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Nothing matters when everyone is told you are disposable in front of AI on daily basis.

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Anonymous wrote:Aren't we just talking about the differenc between choosing a career that is (a) profit-driven; or (b) mission-driven?

Meaning, what is the motivation driving our kids (and ourselves) when choosing careers and jobs?

I think it's normal for people to begin their career with a more profit-driven motivation in order to establish themselves and create financial security.

This includes paying off school loans, to the extent they/we have them, saving money to improve housing (living without roommates or putting together a downpayment to buy), establishing an emergency fund, and having a strong financial base from which to start a family.

For many, the drive for more "mission-driven" work comes mid-career, once there's a stronger sense of financial security, either due to savings/investment or to the security that comes from being part of a dual-earning couple.

And . . .

This genuinely doesn't need to be an either/or situation - either profit-driven or mission-driven from the start. There are jobs and careers that combine both. And though they are likely to create a slower path to financial security, that's 100% fine for some people because the mission-driven piece is worth the tradeoff.

Finally, yes, there are some jobs and careers that genuinely do satisfy both the profit-driven AND mission-driven goals in equal measure. I'm thinking of some successful pro-social startups, as well as microfinance, high level non-profit consulting (does Deloitte do this?), and of course, public service/government work.

I'd love to hear MORE examples of entry-level positions and career paths that genuinely combine both pieces - a reasonable path to financial security AND satisfyingly mission-driven work. Anyone?

Oh please. Young people usually start off more idealistic and over time there's mortgages, kids, "real life" and you need to pay the bills. Think of the college grads that move to NYC and live in a walkup with a bunch of roommates when they're starting out.

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Anonymous wrote:The students we know graduating from college have jobs in business, consulting, IB, and a few in engineering. Any more interesting new grad jobs that you know of?

Thanks for the chuckle!

[Anonymous]

Spouse works at the World Bank and it remains as hard as ever to get a job there, especially at junior levels…

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Anonymous wrote:I worked for USAID and DH also has low pay, for-the-public-good job with volatility thrown in for kicks. We both have always felt passionate about our work - they were vocations, not just jobs.

Our kid is a business major and says he wants a job that will make him good money and that he likes what he does every day well enough. That’s it. I don’t think he’ll do anything slimy, but I think he sees work as just…work. It’s what you do to pay the bills. He doesn’t seem to need a calling or a purpose in it. I was so different at his age. Idealistic, driven to change the world. Which I never did, of course.

I think this next generation is more cynical, or maybe just realistic.

Realistic! The world is far too expensive now to “follow your dreams.” It is such an astoundingly privileged notion that a person should pursue whatever it is they want to do and expect to become successful in this vocation.

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Anonymous wrote:You saw what they did to the NIH... why bother?

That will go back at some point when these corrupt incompetent men leave the White House.

I saw a documentary on the Thalidomide drug that was developed by ex-Nazi war criminals in the 1950s that helped pregnant women with nausea. It turned out to cause horrific birth defects where babies were born with no legs or arms or shortened misshapen arms. This started in Germany, it was then sold to England and Canada. The Nazi company knew of the side effect but kept it quiet because they were getting very rich.

Thanks to Dr. Frances Kelsey from the FDA, Thalidomide was never approved in the US.
In 1960, Dr. Kelsey halted the drug's approval process, citing inadequate safety data, which averted a major public health tragedy in the United States. She faced enormous pressure from the drug company and lobbyists along with bribes and death threats. She stayed strong.

Trump has gutted the FDA. Without hesitation thalidomide would be approved by Trump and he would have fired the doctors. We need doctors like Dr. Kelsey and scientists who will stay true. Young people have to bother. Plus if all anyone is doing is moving money around our economy will be shattered.

Saying "it will come back" does not give people comfort that they can build a successful and secure stable life for themselves and their family. The security of a lot of those fed and fed-adjacent or funded jobs is gone. Yes that impacts the next generation as well.

I am in a "passion" field and I hate it. The swings are awful. I'm depressed and I can't unplug from tht regular news or the nonstop news related to my area. I wish I worked on something I didn't care about -- accounting?? -- and the job was just a job and not part of the bigger political mess.

No one is inured from the impact of the crazy political atmosphere. I work in a job that is most assuredly “just a job” to me (project manager for a healthcare organization) and hospitals are very much caught in the crosshairs of these political headwinds.

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Anonymous wrote:It is a shame that the bright kids aren’t aiming to change the system and rather just feed it

But that’s capitalism. It rewards the production of money; not of ideas, sustainability, care, etc.

Truly “changing the system” would involve dismantling the Epstein class. Tell me how a lone twenty-something goes about doing that?

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Anonymous wrote:I have been a teacher for 30 years. My kids are in finance, or heading there. They saw me work my ass off and struggle and they want a different path. I am thrilled.

Same. I’m a teacher and DH isn’t but is in a different field and works really hard. Our kids constantly say they don’t want to be like us and want high paying jobs. They don’t care if they love work but want to make money to do the things they do love. We fully support that. I would never want either of mine to teach.

What? Either they want to do the things they love or they don’t.

I think they are saying these kids are separating work from passion.

Apparently I didn’t explain myself well. Yes, that’s what I meant. Yes, the job is just that. They want high paying careers to provide money, to be able to fund things they do love to do, which will not be work related. They want lives that are more balanced than what we have.

Of course, they are young. All of us would love high paying jobs that give us free time to do the things we want to do.

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Anonymous wrote:I have been a teacher for 30 years. My kids are in finance, or heading there. They saw me work my ass off and struggle and they want a different path. I am thrilled.

Same for me! I think teaching is one of the few jobs I’d try to talk him out of. Luckily he’s not at all interested. He’d like me to leave!