DOJ sued Harvard for defying admissions probe - Will this create a chilling effect on this year's RD?

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Anonymous wrote:Well, the Asian population has jumped significantly as has the SAT median so that should make the government happy.


The MAGAs definitely tipped the scales in favor of Asians and Indians.


It's funny how people like you see the removal of discrimination as conferring favor.


That is a short term situation at best. MAGA wants them out. This is only step one. Step two will be demanding adjustments that benefit whites.

Yet, liberal policy’s step one is to discriminate Asians for decades. It sure was “temporary “.


Asians weren't discriminated against. You're just not that good in a flexible system. Get over it.

You mean corrupt, as in the child raping and baby eating white culture disclosed in the Epstein files?


Maybe just avoid Harvard all together.

I think the point is Harvard isn’t OWNED by white liberals, although they’re currently in control. It’s like asking non white people to leave America if they don’t like it. The answer is NO, because this is not your land.


Who owns Harvard?


The Harvard Corporation is a 501(c)(3) and the owner of all of Harvard University's assets and real property.[5]

As a governing board, the Corporation traditionally functioned as an outside body whose members were not involved in the institution's daily life, meeting instead periodically to consult with the day-to-day head, the president of Harvard University, whom it appoints, and who also serves as a member. The Corporation is self-perpetuating, appointing new members to fill its own vacancies as they arise.


ok Fine. It is a 501(c) corporation like lots of other educational and religious institutions.

Just boycott it if you don't like the way they do business. If I dont like The YMCA, I can go to a different gym. If I dont like the Catholic Church, I can go to a different one. If I don't like Saint Jude, or NRP, or Duke, or Purdue, or Harvard, I can patronize or donate to a different organization.

Huh? What a brain dead solution! A better way is always to try to change it instead of quitting. Again, it’s NOT yours.


There are literally thousands of institutions of higher learning out here. I think you could find one to your liking.

You’re mistaken. We’re already in those top colleges. But it doesn’t make their practice right.


ok. Suit yourself. Beat on the institution you are attending. Sounds great.
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Anonymous wrote:Well, the Asian population has jumped significantly as has the SAT median so that should make the government happy.


The MAGAs definitely tipped the scales in favor of Asians and Indians.


It's funny how people like you see the removal of discrimination as conferring favor.


That is a short term situation at best. MAGA wants them out. This is only step one. Step two will be demanding adjustments that benefit whites.


What is a short term situation? Affirmative action has no pathway back into legality without a constitutional amendment.

And what adjustment would only benefit whites?


Nonsense. Change the supreme Court and you change the rulings. Ask any American woman.


No court is going to go back down the blind alley of saying that some forms of racial discrimination are permissible under the 14th amendment for the sake of something as notional and theoretical as "the benefits of diversity in education"
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Anonymous wrote:Too much politics should be on the other forums


Trump has politicized college admissions.

So here we are.


No. Colleges admissions have been politicized for decades, adopting all kinds of favoritism and racist policies. Trump is the one who’s trying to clean up this cesspool.




Maga has no interest in Harvard.

Who cares and why does it matter to the conversation? You don’t sound very bright.


THe poster is disputing that there is a political advantage to harassing Harvard.


There is a political advantage. Harvard is seen as the wellspring of critical (race) theory and DEI policies. Republicans will be able to make hay out of the affirmative action case for as long as colleges keep trying to discriminate on the basis of race. Racial discrimination is deeply unpopular and the DEI version is no more popular that the KKK version. It muddies the waters on whether anyone has the moral high ground.


Most Maga voters spend zero time caring about Harvard in any way.


They love watching Harvard get its comeuppance.
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Anonymous wrote:It will create a chill on living in the United States. If Trump can roll Harvard, he can put any of us in a death camp.

Harvard was taken by liberals long time ago. Not sure you realized that or not.


don't know or care but why would Harvard or any other university support actors engaged in trying to destroy research and higher education? Doubt Harvard and the others have a death wish.


Because they have been ideologically captured and they will die on the DEI hill to maintain their racial preferences even at the expense of science and research.


The target is science and research.

No. The target is racial discrimination. Harvard is trying to hold the country hostage when it’s getting so big and powerful. It’s time to redistribute the funding away from Harvard.


So many R1 state universities and colleges and we send all the money to Harvard.
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Anonymous wrote:It will create a chill on living in the United States. If Trump can roll Harvard, he can put any of us in a death camp.

Harvard was taken by liberals long time ago. Not sure you realized that or not.


don't know or care but why would Harvard or any other university support actors engaged in trying to destroy research and higher education? Doubt Harvard and the others have a death wish.


Because they have been ideologically captured and they will die on the DEI hill to maintain their racial preferences even at the expense of science and research.


The target is science and research.

No. The target is racial discrimination. Harvard is trying to hold the country hostage when it’s getting so big and powerful. It’s time to redistribute the funding away from Harvard.


No, the target is science and research you are not paying attention.


It is funding at schools that engage in racial discrimination
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Anonymous wrote:Well, the Asian population has jumped significantly as has the SAT median so that should make the government happy.


The MAGAs definitely tipped the scales in favor of Asians and Indians.


It's funny how people like you see the removal of discrimination as conferring favor.


That is a short term situation at best. MAGA wants them out. This is only step one. Step two will be demanding adjustments that benefit whites.

Yet, liberal policy’s step one is to discriminate Asians for decades. It sure was “temporary “.


Asians weren't discriminated against. You're just not that good in a flexible system. Get over it.


That's the sort of racism that makes lawsuits like SFFA necessary. You might as well have started your second sentence with "you people"

Asians are the majority of humans on the planet, get used to it.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well, the Asian population has jumped significantly as has the SAT median so that should make the government happy.


The MAGAs definitely tipped the scales in favor of Asians and Indians.


It's funny how people like you see the removal of discrimination as conferring favor.


That is a short term situation at best. MAGA wants them out. This is only step one. Step two will be demanding adjustments that benefit whites.


What is a short term situation? Affirmative action has no pathway back into legality without a constitutional amendment.

And what adjustment would only benefit whites?


You are sadly mistaken if you think that the Trump administration and MAGA care one bit about the constitution.


Yes, but presumably future supreme courts will.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Too much politics should be on the other forums


Trump has politicized college admissions.

So here we are.


No. Colleges admissions have been politicized for decades, adopting all kinds of favoritism and racist policies. Trump is the one who’s trying to clean up this cesspool.




Maga has no interest in Harvard.

Who cares and why does it matter to the conversation? You don’t sound very bright.


THe poster is disputing that there is a political advantage to harassing Harvard.


There is a political advantage. Harvard is seen as the wellspring of critical (race) theory and DEI policies. Republicans will be able to make hay out of the affirmative action case for as long as colleges keep trying to discriminate on the basis of race. Racial discrimination is deeply unpopular and the DEI version is no more popular that the KKK version. It muddies the waters on whether anyone has the moral high ground.


Most Maga voters spend zero time caring about Harvard in any way.


They love watching Harvard get its comeuppance.


Not really. That comes up in conversation.... Never.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well, the Asian population has jumped significantly as has the SAT median so that should make the government happy.


The MAGAs definitely tipped the scales in favor of Asians and Indians.


It's funny how people like you see the removal of discrimination as conferring favor.


That is a short term situation at best. MAGA wants them out. This is only step one. Step two will be demanding adjustments that benefit whites.


What is a short term situation? Affirmative action has no pathway back into legality without a constitutional amendment.

And what adjustment would only benefit whites?


Nonsense. Change the supreme Court and you change the rulings. Ask any American woman.


No court is going to go back down the blind alley of saying that some forms of racial discrimination are permissible under the 14th amendment for the sake of something as notional and theoretical as "the benefits of diversity in education"


I think that is a pretty naive reading of things. Especially given the behavior of the current court where one side has a lot of “flexibly” regarding precedence and accepted law.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well, the Asian population has jumped significantly as has the SAT median so that should make the government happy.


The MAGAs definitely tipped the scales in favor of Asians and Indians.


It's funny how people like you see the removal of discrimination as conferring favor.


That is a short term situation at best. MAGA wants them out. This is only step one. Step two will be demanding adjustments that benefit whites.


What is a short term situation? Affirmative action has no pathway back into legality without a constitutional amendment.

And what adjustment would only benefit whites?


You are sadly mistaken if you think that the Trump administration and MAGA care one bit about the constitution.


Yes, but presumably future supreme courts will.


The current court doesn’t seem to care much.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well, the Asian population has jumped significantly as has the SAT median so that should make the government happy.


The MAGAs definitely tipped the scales in favor of Asians and Indians.


It's funny how people like you see the removal of discrimination as conferring favor.


That is a short term situation at best. MAGA wants them out. This is only step one. Step two will be demanding adjustments that benefit whites.

Yet, liberal policy’s step one is to discriminate Asians for decades. It sure was “temporary “.


Asians weren't discriminated against. You're just not that good in a flexible system. Get over it.

You mean corrupt, as in the child raping and baby eating white culture disclosed in the Epstein files?


Maybe just avoid Harvard all together.

I think the point is Harvard isn’t OWNED by white liberals, although they’re currently in control. It’s like asking non white people to leave America if they don’t like it. The answer is NO, because this is not your land.


Who owns Harvard?


The harvard corporation an orphan entity.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well, the Asian population has jumped significantly as has the SAT median so that should make the government happy.


The MAGAs definitely tipped the scales in favor of Asians and Indians.


It's funny how people like you see the removal of discrimination as conferring favor.


That is a short term situation at best. MAGA wants them out. This is only step one. Step two will be demanding adjustments that benefit whites.

Yet, liberal policy’s step one is to discriminate Asians for decades. It sure was “temporary “.


Asians weren't discriminated against. You're just not that good in a flexible system. Get over it.

You mean corrupt, as in the child raping and baby eating white culture disclosed in the Epstein files?


Maybe just avoid Harvard all together.

I think the point is Harvard isn’t OWNED by white liberals, although they’re currently in control. It’s like asking non white people to leave America if they don’t like it. The answer is NO, because this is not your land.


Who owns Harvard?


The Harvard Corporation is a 501(c)(3) and the owner of all of Harvard University's assets and real property.[5]

As a governing board, the Corporation traditionally functioned as an outside body whose members were not involved in the institution's daily life, meeting instead periodically to consult with the day-to-day head, the president of Harvard University, whom it appoints, and who also serves as a member. The Corporation is self-perpetuating, appointing new members to fill its own vacancies as they arise.


ok Fine. It is a 501(c) corporation like lots of other educational and religious institutions.

Just boycott it if you don't like the way they do business. If I dont like The YMCA, I can go to a different gym. If I dont like the Catholic Church, I can go to a different one. If I don't like Saint Jude, or NRP, or Duke, or Purdue, or Harvard, I can patronize or donate to a different organization.

Huh? What a brain dead solution! A better way is always to try to change it instead of quitting. Again, it’s NOT yours.


There are literally thousands of institutions of higher learning out here. I think you could find one to your liking.

You’re mistaken. We’re already in those top colleges. But it doesn’t make their practice right.


ok. Suit yourself. Beat on the institution you are attending. Sounds great.


What a pleasure it would be to have this kid as a roommate! Here we are at Harvard and Harvard suc#*.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well, the Asian population has jumped significantly as has the SAT median so that should make the government happy.


The MAGAs definitely tipped the scales in favor of Asians and Indians.


It's funny how people like you see the removal of discrimination as conferring favor.


That is a short term situation at best. MAGA wants them out. This is only step one. Step two will be demanding adjustments that benefit whites.

Yet, liberal policy’s step one is to discriminate Asians for decades. It sure was “temporary “.


Asians weren't discriminated against. You're just not that good in a flexible system. Get over it.

You mean corrupt, as in the child raping and baby eating white culture disclosed in the Epstein files?


Maybe just avoid Harvard all together.

I think the point is Harvard isn’t OWNED by white liberals, although they’re currently in control. It’s like asking non white people to leave America if they don’t like it. The answer is NO, because this is not your land.


Who owns Harvard?


The Harvard Corporation is a 501(c)(3) and the owner of all of Harvard University's assets and real property.[5]

As a governing board, the Corporation traditionally functioned as an outside body whose members were not involved in the institution's daily life, meeting instead periodically to consult with the day-to-day head, the president of Harvard University, whom it appoints, and who also serves as a member. The Corporation is self-perpetuating, appointing new members to fill its own vacancies as they arise.


ok Fine. It is a 501(c) corporation like lots of other educational and religious institutions.

Just boycott it if you don't like the way they do business. If I dont like The YMCA, I can go to a different gym. If I dont like the Catholic Church, I can go to a different one. If I don't like Saint Jude, or NRP, or Duke, or Purdue, or Harvard, I can patronize or donate to a different organization.


It's racial discrimination.

Would you have suggested that if the blacks in Montgomery, Alabama didn't like the way the bus company was doing business they should have just engaged in their bus boycott and should not have sued to have the segregation declared illegal?

We fight racism because it's wrong, not because it is convenient to do so. Watching generations of asians kids trying to figure out how to look less asian on college applications is heart breaking.
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Anonymous wrote:Well, the Asian population has jumped significantly as has the SAT median so that should make the government happy.


The MAGAs definitely tipped the scales in favor of Asians and Indians.


It's funny how people like you see the removal of discrimination as conferring favor.


That is a short term situation at best. MAGA wants them out. This is only step one. Step two will be demanding adjustments that benefit whites.

Yet, liberal policy’s step one is to discriminate Asians for decades. It sure was “temporary “.


Asians weren't discriminated against. You're just not that good in a flexible system. Get over it.

You mean corrupt, as in the child raping and baby eating white culture disclosed in the Epstein files?


Maybe just avoid Harvard all together.

I think the point is Harvard isn’t OWNED by white liberals, although they’re currently in control. It’s like asking non white people to leave America if they don’t like it. The answer is NO, because this is not your land.


Who owns Harvard?


The Harvard Corporation is a 501(c)(3) and the owner of all of Harvard University's assets and real property.[5]

As a governing board, the Corporation traditionally functioned as an outside body whose members were not involved in the institution's daily life, meeting instead periodically to consult with the day-to-day head, the president of Harvard University, whom it appoints, and who also serves as a member. The Corporation is self-perpetuating, appointing new members to fill its own vacancies as they arise.


ok Fine. It is a 501(c) corporation like lots of other educational and religious institutions.

Just boycott it if you don't like the way they do business. If I dont like The YMCA, I can go to a different gym. If I dont like the Catholic Church, I can go to a different one. If I don't like Saint Jude, or NRP, or Duke, or Purdue, or Harvard, I can patronize or donate to a different organization.

Huh? What a brain dead solution! A better way is always to try to change it instead of quitting. Again, it’s NOT yours.


There are literally thousands of institutions of higher learning out here. I think you could find one to your liking.


All the selective ones are engaging in the same type of racial discrimination.
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Anonymous wrote:Well, the Asian population has jumped significantly as has the SAT median so that should make the government happy.


The MAGAs definitely tipped the scales in favor of Asians and Indians.


It's funny how people like you see the removal of discrimination as conferring favor.


That is a short term situation at best. MAGA wants them out. This is only step one. Step two will be demanding adjustments that benefit whites.

Yet, liberal policy’s step one is to discriminate Asians for decades. It sure was “temporary “.


Asians weren't discriminated against. You're just not that good in a flexible system. Get over it.

You mean corrupt, as in the child raping and baby eating white culture disclosed in the Epstein files?


Maybe just avoid Harvard all together.

I think the point is Harvard isn’t OWNED by white liberals, although they’re currently in control. It’s like asking non white people to leave America if they don’t like it. The answer is NO, because this is not your land.


Who owns Harvard?


The Harvard Corporation is a 501(c)(3) and the owner of all of Harvard University's assets and real property.[5]

As a governing board, the Corporation traditionally functioned as an outside body whose members were not involved in the institution's daily life, meeting instead periodically to consult with the day-to-day head, the president of Harvard University, whom it appoints, and who also serves as a member. The Corporation is self-perpetuating, appointing new members to fill its own vacancies as they arise.


ok Fine. It is a 501(c) corporation like lots of other educational and religious institutions.

Just boycott it if you don't like the way they do business. If I dont like The YMCA, I can go to a different gym. If I dont like the Catholic Church, I can go to a different one. If I don't like Saint Jude, or NRP, or Duke, or Purdue, or Harvard, I can patronize or donate to a different organization.

Huh? What a brain dead solution! A better way is always to try to change it instead of quitting. Again, it’s NOT yours.


There are literally thousands of institutions of higher learning out here. I think you could find one to your liking.

You’re mistaken. We’re already in those top colleges. But it doesn’t make their practice right.


ok. Suit yourself. Beat on the institution you are attending. Sounds great.


If yours was engaging in racism, wouldn't you?
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