Taylor's Feb. Rec for Woodward Boundary Study

[Anonymous]

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??? What are you talking about? Do you not even know that Wheaton is part of this boundary study and think your school is the only one affected?

Wheaton FARMS before - 59.3%

Wheaton FARMS after - 59.2%

You are not significantly affected. Yes, you are technically part of the study but a very minor player.

DP. Students from most Wheaton cluster elementary schools are being reassigned at the MS and/or HS level.

I admit it. Current Wheaton elementary schools are being moved around a lot in this plan. I still don't understand why Wheaton posters are being so defensive. PP did make a harsh statement about their engineering program, but that program will be gone anyway. A new STEM program will be created and will have uncertain future.

The Wheaton engineering and biomed programs are slated to stay, and be joined by the regional SMCS.

And it's not that people are being defensive, it's that there's some whiny parent from WJ in here acting like something uniquely terrible has happened to them and that no one else is really affected by the boundary study because the things that affect other kids somehow don't count.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This new plan has current 8th graders needing to switch schools in 10th. Taylor previously said they could stay where they start. Why did we go through this whole DCC process for all these kids if they have to shuffle schools in two years?!

Kids currently in consortia and regional/countywide programs (and next year's class of 9th graders) can stay. The thing about switching in 10th is for everyone else.

[Anonymous]

How do Woodlin families feel about the proposal?

[Anonymous]

The Wheaton engineering and biomed programs are slated to stay, and be joined by the regional SMCS.

And it's not that people are being defensive, it's that there's some whiny parent from WJ in here acting like something uniquely terrible has happened to them and that no one else is really affected by the boundary study because the things that affect other kids somehow don't count.



Well, it is true that Tilden families suddenly find themselves going from 18% to 36% FARMS. It is a major shift. Is there any other school in a similar situation?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Wheaton engineering and biomed programs are slated to stay, and be joined by the regional SMCS.

And it's not that people are being defensive, it's that there's some whiny parent from WJ in here acting like something uniquely terrible has happened to them and that no one else is really affected by the boundary study because the things that affect other kids somehow don't count.



Well, it is true that Tilden families suddenly find themselves going from 18% to 36% FARMS. It is a major shift. Is there any other school in a similar situation?

Huh? The data table shows Tilden's FARMS rate going from 22.1% to 21.6%.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Wheaton engineering and biomed programs are slated to stay, and be joined by the regional SMCS.

And it's not that people are being defensive, it's that there's some whiny parent from WJ in here acting like something uniquely terrible has happened to them and that no one else is really affected by the boundary study because the things that affect other kids somehow don't count.



Well, it is true that Tilden families suddenly find themselves going from 18% to 36% FARMS. It is a major shift. Is there any other school in a similar situation?

Huh? The data table shows Tilden's FARMS rate going from 22.1% to 21.6%.

Yup. There are several middle schools that actually do see large jumps in FARMS rates (including ours) but you don't see us complaining, because we're not allergic to being around poor kids like these WJ families seem to be. Ugh.

[Anonymous]

The issue is the demographics of the new WJ. Do the math.

It’s another Whitman (less diverse and richer than current WJ) while Woodward is just a mile away and will be a very different school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This new plan has current 8th graders needing to switch schools in 10th. Taylor previously said they could stay where they start. Why did we go through this whole DCC process for all these kids if they have to shuffle schools in two years?!

Kids currently in consortia and regional/countywide programs (and next year's class of 9th graders) can stay. The thing about switching in 10th is for everyone else.

When was this ever put in writing or eve said aloud during yesterday’s meeting? I’ve only ever heard MCPS say in BOE meetings that students in “regional magnet programs” can finish them. So Eastern, TPMS, RMIB and Blair

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This new plan has current 8th graders needing to switch schools in 10th. Taylor previously said they could stay where they start. Why did we go through this whole DCC process for all these kids if they have to shuffle schools in two years?!

Kids currently in consortia and regional/countywide programs (and next year's class of 9th graders) can stay. The thing about switching in 10th is for everyone else.

If MCPS is actually planning to do this, they need to share the cost of continuing is while also paying for the new plan AND share building utilization and demographics for the transition years.

Did anyone consider that maybe 11th and 12th graders want to move? I attended a brand new high school in the 90’s in Virginia and it was filled the very first year with grades 9-12. There was a lot of pride in being the first senior classes. This was a HA of 3,000 students

[Anonymous]

Help me understand the enrollment projections for Loiederman in this version. It shows a drop from 989 to the 600’s. Who is getting moved and to where?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Help me understand the enrollment projections for Loiederman in this version. It shows a drop from 989 to the 600’s. Who is getting moved and to where?

These bullet points are in the recommendation for the Wheaton cluster:

● Students assigned to Sargent Shriver Elementary School will be reassigned to Parkland Middle School and Wheaton High School north of Weller Road and west of Barbara Road, including residences along Barbara Road
● Students assigned to Georgian Forest Elementary School will be reassigned to Odessa Shannon Middle School and Wheaton High School (please note, students assigned to Georgian Forest Elementary School island assignment #3 will continue to articulate to Argyle Middle School and John F. Kennedy High School)
● Students assigned to Harmony Hills Elementary School will be reassigned to Wheaton High School (please note, students assigned to Harmony Hills Elementary School island assignment #1 will be reassigned to Argyle Middle School and continue to articulate to John F. Kennedy High School)

[Anonymous]

Now let’s walk through what Woodward will look like in 2027, 2028, and 2029.

2027: full grade 9 class; 10th graders only from Farmland, Luxmanor and portions of KP and Garrett Park because PPs say consortia 10th graders won’t have to move. No 11th or 12th graders?!?

2028: full 9th and 10th grade classes; 11th graders only from Farmland, Luxmanor, portions of KP/GP

2029: full classes of 9/10/11th graders and a tiny senior class.

This seems wasteful and if I had a current 9th grader from those ES outside the DCC I would be pissed. Less teachers for my kid’s grade means less course offerings, crappy varsity teams, etc. I really doubt Taylor will let DCC kids stay where they are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This new plan has current 8th graders needing to switch schools in 10th. Taylor previously said they could stay where they start. Why did we go through this whole DCC process for all these kids if they have to shuffle schools in two years?!

Kids currently in consortia and regional/countywide programs (and next year's class of 9th graders) can stay. The thing about switching in 10th is for everyone else.

When was this ever put in writing or eve said aloud during yesterday’s meeting? I’ve only ever heard MCPS say in BOE meetings that students in “regional magnet programs” can finish them. So Eastern, TPMS, RMIB and Blair

It's in writing here:

https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1sYH8G9mVKZI0Bkm_-ZXoSszwRGnrsemE_ksF7DZR4fs/mobilebasic#kix.ze3sp7c1drio

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That's the problem in attending school focused on Art and high FARMS. It's not likely to offer MVC and Linear Algebra even if kid is ready for it.

This is not a real problem. A vanishingly small number of high school students take multivariable calculus anywhere. If it’s that important to you then take your child to community college.

DP

MVC should be seen here only as an example. There are many reasons to think that Woodward will have poor class offering - high FARMS typically means not much interest in advanced courses, Arts classes will demand resources, lack of teachers since it will be a new school, ...

35% is not "high FARMS," it's lower than the county average.

35% is high. Next county will becpome 50% and you will say it;s not high. Anything higher than 20% starts impacting school and in Woodward, it will have issues anyway die to opening new.

It's much higher than earlier WJ
It's much much higher than future WJ

MCPS is trying to ceoncentrate poverty intentioanlly in one school when WJ and Woodward is less than one mile on the same road.

[Anonymous]

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Well, it is true that Tilden families suddenly find themselves going from 18% to 36% FARMS. It is a major shift. Is there any other school in a similar situation?

Anyone is facing doubling the FARMS? I am curious.