Ranking - Immersion Schools

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Anonymous wrote:OP here again - why do some hill people choose MV8 over MV cook? I am aware that while MV cook is located in a terrible spot with terrible drop off logistics, it is much closer to the hill than MV8. Are the logistics of getting to MV8 and drop off easier than MV cook despite the distance?

I don’t know from personal experience, but one possible advantage of MV8 versus MV Cook coming from the Hill is you don’t have to cross North Capitol, which is always a mess.

If you are in hill north in NE, crossing NY Ave is also a big mess and headache.

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chisholm is going to be in swing space at springarn. if thats close to you, then id go there. i hear the immersion middle school options are lacking and dci is better for middle school ppl but personally wouldnt commute to dci from the hill.

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Anonymous wrote:chisholm is going to be in swing space at springarn. if thats close to you, then id go there. i hear the immersion middle school options are lacking and dci is better for middle school ppl but personally wouldnt commute to dci from the hill.

There is a bus from the hill to DCI.

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Anonymous wrote:From a test scores perspective, MV8 and MVP Are just not apples to apples. MV8 has half the at risk % of MVP and at risk % is a major driver of overall test numbers. I was very interested to find that white kids do significantly better at MVP than MV8 and Hispanic kids do slightly better at MV8. I strongly recommend looking at empowerk12 dashboards to get a better comparison.

OP, if you are committed to Spanish immersion and prefer charter, there is a very good chance you will be a MV parent. Stokes, LAMB, and DCB have long waitlists and MVP cleared their pk3 wait-list last year. But don't overlook convenient DCPS schools. They arguably have better immersion programs, lots of families are OOB, and DCPS is working on an immersion MS solution for CH. [b]A lot can change in the time it takes a three year old to get to middle school[/

It seems like a long time between pk3 and middle school but it really isn’t enough time for substantial change. I chose a DCI feeder instead of McFarland feeder exactly for this reason and so glad I did. McFarland is still not an option for my family and my then 3 y/o is going to middle school next year.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From a test scores perspective, MV8 and MVP Are just not apples to apples. MV8 has half the at risk % of MVP and at risk % is a major driver of overall test numbers. I was very interested to find that white kids do significantly better at MVP than MV8 and Hispanic kids do slightly better at MV8. I strongly recommend looking at empowerk12 dashboards to get a better comparison.

OP, if you are committed to Spanish immersion and prefer charter, there is a very good chance you will be a MV parent. Stokes, LAMB, and DCB have long waitlists and MVP cleared their pk3 wait-list last year. But don't overlook convenient DCPS schools. They arguably have better immersion programs, lots of families are OOB, and DCPS is working on an immersion MS solution for CH. A lot can change in the time it takes a three year old to get to middle school.

Don’t listen to PP above. Middle school comes fast and you absolutely need to consider that in your equation.

I have absolutely no faith in DCPS to create a viable immersion middle path much less a quality one.

If you are on the hill, then you should absolutely know this OP if you talk to hill families about their middle school hopes and ultimately disappointment.

+1 Think about your middle school options and do not assume there will be some magical dual language middle school option.

There is no way there is going to be any viable middle school immersion option for Chisholm. DCPS may attempt to pacify these families by putting some haphazard program in a current non-immersion school. But do people honestly naively believe if this happens and that is a big IF, it would be rigorous and have the capability for progression of the language?

I mean people, DCPS has McFarland for a long time for the DCPS bilingual schools and it has gone nowhere. Overwhelming majority kids are not even on grade level in ELA and math and are way below grade level. You really think these kids are proficient in languages??

+1 It seems like a long time between pk3 and middle school but it really isn’t enough time for substantial change. I chose a DCI feeder instead of McFarland feeder exactly for this reason and so glad I did. McFarland is still not an option for my family and my then 3 y/o is going to middle school next year.

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Anonymous wrote:chisholm is going to be in swing space at springarn. if thats close to you, then id go there. i hear the immersion middle school options are lacking and dci is better for middle school ppl but personally wouldnt commute to dci from the hill.

There is a bus from the hill to DCI.

+1. Bus stop is not far from Eastern market.

If you are in hill in NE, super easy to hop on metro at either Union Market or NOMA and then bus right to school. Piece of cake for my 6th grader. Total game changer not having to drive to school.

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If you are close to red line, lots of DCI kids ride to Takoma and take a quick bus

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Anonymous wrote:If you are close to red line, lots of DCI kids ride to Takoma and take a quick bus

+1 the bus is literally full of DCI kids in am, no adults.

When my kid started there, I wanted to ride the bus later in the 1st week to see the route but he said no. He didn’t want to be embarrassed that his mom was riding to school with him since it was obvious I would be the only adult getting on.

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Anonymous wrote:If you are close to red line, lots of DCI kids ride to Takoma and take a quick bus

+1 the bus is literally full of DCI kids in am, no adults.

When my kid started there, I wanted to ride the bus later in the 1st week to see the route but he said no. He didn’t want to be embarrassed that his mom was riding to school with him since it was obvious I would be the only adult getting on.

Heh. Does every single child on the Hill commute to NW for school?

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Anonymous wrote:If you are close to red line, lots of DCI kids ride to Takoma and take a quick bus

+1 the bus is literally full of DCI kids in am, no adults.

When my kid started there, I wanted to ride the bus later in the 1st week to see the route but he said no. He didn’t want to be embarrassed that his mom was riding to school with him since it was obvious I would be the only adult getting on.

Heh. Does every single child on the Hill commute to NW for school?

Of course not but it’s important for CH families to know that DCI is easily accessible by shuttle or metro, depending on where in CH so parents don’t have to do the commute at all.

This is pretty important information especially with the dearth of good middle and high school options in this city.

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This thread was about spanish immersion, but im curious how YuYing compares to the better Spanish schools in terms of environment and academics?

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I feel like supplementing particularly in math is super common across a lot of schools particularly bilingual. We have kids at another Spanish immersion on your list and I was shocked when we started to learn how many of the older kids do Russian School of Math, Mathnasium, etc. Our oldest is now in 2nd and I am generally happy with the school but I do feel like I want more rigor around math.

Seperately, I was talking to a family at Bancroft a few weeks ago who said they started doing math supplementing because they realized that their kids only knew math terminology in Spanish.

I don't have enough data points to know whether this is a DC thing or a bilingual thing or what, but I definitely don't think this is unique to LAMB at all.

If this poster revisits the thread, at what age did they begin to supplement?

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Anonymous wrote:MV8
MV Cook
DCB because it's farther but a good school
Stokes Brookland if you don't mind the poor math stats
LAMB because parents honestly aren't that happy with it, but stay for the DCI feed
Chisholm because closer to you
Global Citizens but mind the new location
Stokes EE because it's far and has low stats

You could look into Houston DCPS

Mundo Verde comes with a lot of drama

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1058201.page

Stokes Brookland also has better ELA scores than both MV locations and better math scores than MV Cook. PP booster has an axe to grind with Stokes for some reason.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MV8
MV Cook
DCB because it's farther but a good school
Stokes Brookland if you don't mind the poor math stats
LAMB because parents honestly aren't that happy with it, but stay for the DCI feed
Chisholm because closer to you
Global Citizens but mind the new location
Stokes EE because it's far and has low stats

You could look into Houston DCPS

Mundo Verde comes with a lot of drama

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1058201.page

Stokes Brookland also has better ELA scores than both MV locations and better math scores than MV Cook. PP booster has an axe to grind with Stokes for some reason.

NP. I don’t think so. It’s a well known fact that math is weak at Stokes and their scores were low in the past. Maybe that has gotten better.

But spanish at Stokes is weak compared to some other charters. This is 1st hand info from family we know at Stokes.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MV8
MV Cook
DCB because it's farther but a good school
Stokes Brookland if you don't mind the poor math stats
LAMB because parents honestly aren't that happy with it, but stay for the DCI feed
Chisholm because closer to you
Global Citizens but mind the new location
Stokes EE because it's far and has low stats

You could look into Houston DCPS

Mundo Verde comes with a lot of drama

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1058201.page

Stokes Brookland also has better ELA scores than both MV locations and better math scores than MV Cook. PP booster has an axe to grind with Stokes for some reason.

NP. I don’t think so. It’s a well known fact that math is weak at Stokes and their scores were low in the past. Maybe that has gotten better.

But spanish at Stokes is weak compared to some other charters. This is 1st hand info from family we know at Stokes.

I believe Stokes stopped teaching math in French/Spanish, because their scores were so bad and they wanted to bring them up. Some people probably aren't bothered by this, others feel like the commitment of immersion is that you don't give up so easily. I'm not sure if Stokes is still doing math in English only, though.