Marylandfication of Virginia

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Anonymous wrote:It looks like the state legislature wants to copy Maryland’s failed policies in Virginia. Here’s a summary of some of the disastrous laws proposed this year.

HB378: will implement a state level net investment income tax and drive residents out of Virginia.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB378
HB537: Will threaten public safety by allowing violent felons that are arrested for another felony to be released without a bond.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB357

the AWB will ensure that democrats will never win another election in Virgina after this, just like the clinton era AWB created a two decade dominance by the GOP

We’re in a different place now. Everyone except the 2A extremists is tired of all of the gun violence.

AWB is a no brainer.

keep thinking that

Guess you aren’t paying attention. Try turning off FoxNews/newsmax every now and then.

lol i dont watch any of that, i am not 50, i am in my late 20s. Lots of young people voted democrat this cycle for pot legalization and abortion rights, which i agree with. you touch my guns, it will be hell to pay.

Most people will prioritize the safety of their families over your cosplay fantasy life.

My aunt carries a gun because she works nights cleaning commercial properties in dangerous neighborhoods. Should her gun be taken away?

A gun is one of the only ways smaller people can protect themselves from getting murdered or raped by larger people. A lot of guns are bought for safety. You probably don’t appreciate this because you’ve lived a sheltered life. The real world is a rough place. Some people, especially working class women, need tools to protect themselves from larger, violent predators.

Women are more likely to be killed with their own gun than to kill someone trying to attack them. We saw it all live in MN, bad guys grab your gun then shoot you dead.

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Anonymous wrote:It looks like the state legislature wants to copy Maryland’s failed policies in Virginia. Here’s a summary of some of the disastrous laws proposed this year.

HB378: will implement a state level net investment income tax and drive residents out of Virginia.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB378
HB537: Will threaten public safety by allowing violent felons that are arrested for another felony to be released without a bond.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB357

Does Maryland actually have both these laws/policies?

Maryland does have overly permissive/forgiving policies for violent criminals. They don’t have a state level net investment income tax but they have a local income tax (in addition to regular state income tax) that has a similar rate to this proposed tax.

Eg. The Maryland Second Look Act passed 2025 allows some violent convicted murderers to request a request a reduction in their sentence after 20 years in prison.

How is this overly permissive? It’s just a request/review and the felon has to serve 20 years first.

Because this law is based on an emotional narrative about “second chances” and rehabilitation. It is not based on actual data that supports the idea and it creates a significant threat to public safety. The recidivism rate for violent criminals is is atrocious. Around 79% of violent criminals are rearrested within 9 years of their release. Even if you a just looking at repeat violent crimes a staggering 43% of these people are arrested again for a violent crime within 9 years. Furthermore, a significant percentage of violent crime are never solved, so the actual percentage of these people is committing violent crimes within 9 years is much higher. The repeat violent crime rate is definitely above 50% after adjusting for crimes that were commited by this population but go unsolved. It makes zero sense to give convicted violent criminals(especially convicted murders) second chances when the majority of them will victimize someone else with a violent crime within a decade of being released.
https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/18upr9yfup0514.pdf
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/06/us/murder-solve-rate-louisville.html

You don’t understand the bill and the data you provided does not support your position.

If you look at people who go to jail before the age of 25, the rehab rehabilitation rate is much higher.

The data you provided is for all ages.

Also, the bill is just for people under the age of 25.

Is under 25 the new definition of children?

No, it’s a statistically significant age group.

OK, so now we are implementing statistical justice.

Math is so hard for MAGAs.

That comment was wild. They literally don't know what it means.

I understand that you seem to be suggesting that sentences should be based on the your statistical cohort instead of the facts of the case. I also understand that your statistical cohort will have hard age boundaries which will require further changes because, "just one day" makes a huge difference in sentences.

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Anonymous wrote:It looks like the state legislature wants to copy Maryland’s failed policies in Virginia. Here’s a summary of some of the disastrous laws proposed this year.

HB378: will implement a state level net investment income tax and drive residents out of Virginia.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB378
HB537: Will threaten public safety by allowing violent felons that are arrested for another felony to be released without a bond.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB357

Does Maryland actually have both these laws/policies?

Maryland does have overly permissive/forgiving policies for violent criminals. They don’t have a state level net investment income tax but they have a local income tax (in addition to regular state income tax) that has a similar rate to this proposed tax.

Eg. The Maryland Second Look Act passed 2025 allows some violent convicted murderers to request a request a reduction in their sentence after 20 years in prison.

How is this overly permissive? It’s just a request/review and the felon has to serve 20 years first.

Because this law is based on an emotional narrative about “second chances” and rehabilitation. It is not based on actual data that supports the idea and it creates a significant threat to public safety. The recidivism rate for violent criminals is is atrocious. Around 79% of violent criminals are rearrested within 9 years of their release. Even if you a just looking at repeat violent crimes a staggering 43% of these people are arrested again for a violent crime within 9 years. Furthermore, a significant percentage of violent crime are never solved, so the actual percentage of these people is committing violent crimes within 9 years is much higher. The repeat violent crime rate is definitely above 50% after adjusting for crimes that were commited by this population but go unsolved. It makes zero sense to give convicted violent criminals(especially convicted murders) second chances when the majority of them will victimize someone else with a violent crime within a decade of being released.
https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/18upr9yfup0514.pdf
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/06/us/murder-solve-rate-louisville.html

You don’t understand the bill and the data you provided does not support your position.

If you look at people who go to jail before the age of 25, the rehab rehabilitation rate is much higher.

The data you provided is for all ages.

Also, the bill is just for people under the age of 25.

Is under 25 the new definition of children?

No, it’s a statistically significant age group.

OK, so now we are implementing statistical justice.

Math is so hard for MAGAs.

That comment was wild. They literally don't know what it means.

I understand that you seem to be suggesting that sentences should be based on the your statistical cohort instead of the facts of the case. I also understand that your statistical cohort will have hard age boundaries which will require further changes because, "just one day" makes a huge difference in sentences.

No that is not what I'm saying at all. Sentencing should be designed to maximize the reduction in crime. So mandatory minimums for repeat offenders are a great policy. If someone commits violent felonies on there separate occasions they should get life in jail. If someone commits rape and they have any other violent felonies, they should get life in jail. Anyone who convicted of first degree muder that has another felony should get life in jail without possibility of parole.

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Did some digging into the tax proposals and their sponsors. They’re being sponsored by people on the appropriate committees and/or in leadership so there’s a high likelihood some version of them pass.

They also made the income tax more “aggressive” vs the original proposal - along with 10% on $1M+ they also added 8% on $600K to $1M. NIST stays the same at $3.2%.

Ran some preliminary #s and anyone under $1M will pay less than that same income in DC / MD. The math flips at $1M where VA would actually be the highest tax state for that income level in the country when you add in the NIST. Will be interesting to see if these get modified further. Not a good headline for the Dems.

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It would be great if VA were more like MD. I often go to VA for work, and it's a mess. Crazy aggressive drivers, trash everywhere, chaotic roads, no sense of any planning (just buildings jumbled together on huge roads in a way that makes everything unwalkable), ugly strip malls everywhere, roads are poorly maintained with tons of potholes, and people are less friendly.

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Anonymous wrote:It looks like the state legislature wants to copy Maryland’s failed policies in Virginia. Here’s a summary of some of the disastrous laws proposed this year.

HB378: will implement a state level net investment income tax and drive residents out of Virginia.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB378
HB537: Will threaten public safety by allowing violent felons that are arrested for another felony to be released without a bond.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB357

Does Maryland actually have both these laws/policies?

Maryland does have overly permissive/forgiving policies for violent criminals. They don’t have a state level net investment income tax but they have a local income tax (in addition to regular state income tax) that has a similar rate to this proposed tax.

Eg. The Maryland Second Look Act passed 2025 allows some violent convicted murderers to request a request a reduction in their sentence after 20 years in prison.

How is this overly permissive? It’s just a request/review and the felon has to serve 20 years first.

Because this law is based on an emotional narrative about “second chances” and rehabilitation. It is not based on actual data that supports the idea and it creates a significant threat to public safety. The recidivism rate for violent criminals is is atrocious. Around 79% of violent criminals are rearrested within 9 years of their release. Even if you a just looking at repeat violent crimes a staggering 43% of these people are arrested again for a violent crime within 9 years. Furthermore, a significant percentage of violent crime are never solved, so the actual percentage of these people is committing violent crimes within 9 years is much higher. The repeat violent crime rate is definitely above 50% after adjusting for crimes that were commited by this population but go unsolved. It makes zero sense to give convicted violent criminals(especially convicted murders) second chances when the majority of them will victimize someone else with a violent crime within a decade of being released.
https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/18upr9yfup0514.pdf
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/06/us/murder-solve-rate-louisville.html

You don’t understand the bill and the data you provided does not support your position.

If you look at people who go to jail before the age of 25, the rehab rehabilitation rate is much higher.

The data you provided is for all ages.

Also, the bill is just for people under the age of 25.

Is under 25 the new definition of children?

No, it’s a statistically significant age group.

OK, so now we are implementing statistical justice.

Math is so hard for MAGAs.

That comment was wild. They literally don't know what it means.

I understand that you seem to be suggesting that sentences should be based on the your statistical cohort instead of the facts of the case. I also understand that your statistical cohort will have hard age boundaries which will require further changes because, "just one day" makes a huge difference in sentences.

No that is not what I'm saying at all. Sentencing should be designed to maximize the reduction in crime. So mandatory minimums for repeat offenders are a great policy. If someone commits violent felonies on there separate occasions they should get life in jail. If someone commits rape and they have any other violent felonies, they should get life in jail. Anyone who convicted of first degree muder that has another felony should get life in jail without possibility of parole.

Evidence that mandatory minimums lead to a reduction in crime?

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Anonymous wrote:It would be great if VA were more like MD. I often go to VA for work, and it's a mess. Crazy aggressive drivers, trash everywhere, chaotic roads, no sense of any planning (just buildings jumbled together on huge roads in a way that makes everything unwalkable), ugly strip malls everywhere, roads are poorly maintained with tons of potholes, and people are less friendly.

The most random clueless and aggressive by incompetence divers I see in Arlington are in cars with Maryland plates.

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Anonymous wrote:It would be great if VA were more like MD. I often go to VA for work, and it's a mess. Crazy aggressive drivers, trash everywhere, chaotic roads, no sense of any planning (just buildings jumbled together on huge roads in a way that makes everything unwalkable), ugly strip malls everywhere, roads are poorly maintained with tons of potholes, and people are less friendly.

The most random clueless and aggressive by incompetence divers I see in Arlington are in cars with Maryland plates.

When I'm driving around Bethesda and Chevy Chase, and someone fails to use turn signals, is driving with high beams, blocks traffic by randomly stopping in the middle of the road, cuts across multiple lanes of traffic out of nowhere, can't stay in their lane, etc. -- 95% of the time they have Virginia plates.

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It's always so funny how VA people act as though all VA drivers are perfect, but then if you go on Reddit Nova, you constantly hear complaints about VA drivers:

https://www.reddit.com/r/nova/comments/1jl5cu5/nova_driver_brain/

https://www.reddit.com/r/nova/comments/1mbxvd2/the_most_nova_driver_ever/

https://www.reddit.com/r/nova/comments/1m8rjdp/shame_bad_driver_alert/

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Anonymous wrote:Did some digging into the tax proposals and their sponsors. They’re being sponsored by people on the appropriate committees and/or in leadership so there’s a high likelihood some version of them pass.

They also made the income tax more “aggressive” vs the original proposal - along with 10% on $1M+ they also added 8% on $600K to $1M. NIST stays the same at $3.2%.

Ran some preliminary #s and anyone under $1M will pay less than that same income in DC / MD. The math flips at $1M where VA would actually be the highest tax state for that income level in the country when you add in the NIST. Will be interesting to see if these get modified further. Not a good headline for the Dems.

Well that really stinks. Moved from nuc were I thought taxes were high to moco where they were insane. Have enjoyed low tax rates in Va for a long time add in the car tax and might be time to move back to Maryland.

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Anonymous wrote:It would be great if VA were more like MD. I often go to VA for work, and it's a mess. Crazy aggressive drivers, trash everywhere, chaotic roads, no sense of any planning (just buildings jumbled together on huge roads in a way that makes everything unwalkable), ugly strip malls everywhere, roads are poorly maintained with tons of potholes, and people are less friendly.

The most random clueless and aggressive by incompetence divers I see in Arlington are in cars with Maryland plates.

Same. It’s the poor people who come here to work and are clueless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is a wealth tax in disguise but affecting MC people unless there is a threshold.

It’s always the shrinking MC that pays. ALWAYS.

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Anonymous wrote:But, but, but Spanberger is a moderate. Virginians were fooled big time. Swing the pendulum too far and Dems will be out as quickly as they came in.

Just proof that too many people don’t look at the candidate and just look at their larty’s ticket. It was a reaction to Trump not a vote for Spanberger in many cases. Why is this so hard for people to get? It is the Achilles heel of the DNC and their tribe. (Don’t get too cocky, MAGA, same thing happened after Trump 1.0. He lost. Accept it.)

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Anonymous wrote:It would be great if VA were more like MD. I often go to VA for work, and it's a mess. Crazy aggressive drivers, trash everywhere, chaotic roads, no sense of any planning (just buildings jumbled together on huge roads in a way that makes everything unwalkable), ugly strip malls everywhere, roads are poorly maintained with tons of potholes, and people are less friendly.

The most random clueless and aggressive by incompetence divers I see in Arlington are in cars with Maryland plates.

When I'm driving around Bethesda and Chevy Chase, and someone fails to use turn signals, is driving with high beams, blocks traffic by randomly stopping in the middle of the road, cuts across multiple lanes of traffic out of nowhere, can't stay in their lane, etc. -- 95% of the time they have Virginia plates.

Agree. Virginia drivers are horrific. I wish they would stay in Virginia where they can be in the company of the other awful Virginia drivers.

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Anonymous wrote:It would be great if VA were more like MD. I often go to VA for work, and it's a mess. Crazy aggressive drivers, trash everywhere, chaotic roads, no sense of any planning (just buildings jumbled together on huge roads in a way that makes everything unwalkable), ugly strip malls everywhere, roads are poorly maintained with tons of potholes, and people are less friendly.

The most random clueless and aggressive by incompetence divers I see in Arlington are in cars with Maryland plates.

When I'm driving around Bethesda and Chevy Chase, and someone fails to use turn signals, is driving with high beams, blocks traffic by randomly stopping in the middle of the road, cuts across multiple lanes of traffic out of nowhere, can't stay in their lane, etc. -- 95% of the time they have Virginia plates.

Agree. Virginia drivers are horrific. I wish they would stay in Virginia where they can be in the company of the other awful Virginia drivers.

They can all drive slow in the left lane together.