Marylandfication of Virginia

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Anonymous wrote:Liberals gonna lib. Keep those bad ideas in Maryland.

Demography is destiny and all that. Once FFX became a one party county it was over for the state.

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Anonymous wrote:It looks like the state legislature wants to copy Maryland’s failed policies in Virginia. Here’s a summary of some of the disastrous laws proposed this year.

HB378: will implement a state level net investment income tax and drive residents out of Virginia.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB378
HB537: Will threaten public safety by allowing violent felons that are arrested for another felony to be released without a bond.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB357

Does Maryland actually have both these laws/policies?

Maryland does have overly permissive/forgiving policies for violent criminals. They don’t have a state level net investment income tax but they have a local income tax (in addition to regular state income tax) that has a similar rate to this proposed tax.

Eg. The Maryland Second Look Act passed 2025 allows some violent convicted murderers to request a request a reduction in their sentence after 20 years in prison.

How is this overly permissive? It’s just a request/review and the felon has to serve 20 years first.

Because this law is based on an emotional narrative about “second chances” and rehabilitation. It is not based on actual data that supports the idea and it creates a significant threat to public safety. The recidivism rate for violent criminals is is atrocious. Around 79% of violent criminals are rearrested within 9 years of their release. Even if you a just looking at repeat violent crimes a staggering 43% of these people are arrested again for a violent crime within 9 years. Furthermore, a significant percentage of violent crime are never solved, so the actual percentage of these people is committing violent crimes within 9 years is much higher. The repeat violent crime rate is definitely above 50% after adjusting for crimes that were commited by this population but go unsolved. It makes zero sense to give convicted violent criminals(especially convicted murders) second chances when the majority of them will victimize someone else with a violent crime within a decade of being released.
https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/18upr9yfup0514.pdf
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/06/us/murder-solve-rate-louisville.html

The people that want tk release violent criminals are silent now that someone brings data to the discussion.

Might as well just kill them then. Also, I consider domestic abusers as “violent criminals” too, and we know those jerks can’t stop beating their wives, so we might as well just hang them on the spot.

The most humane thing to do is long prison sentences.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:More taxes are good. Releasing violent offenders is not. That's my two cents as a Marylander.

Presumably they served their time for the prior felony; if they are arrested for a non violent felony, and would be eligible for release WITH a bond, then its it a matter of who has the money to go free. Which is not fair, so this zero bond. Its not a get out jail free

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Anonymous wrote:It looks like the state legislature wants to copy Maryland’s failed policies in Virginia. Here’s a summary of some of the disastrous laws proposed this year.

HB378: will implement a state level net investment income tax and drive residents out of Virginia.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB378
HB537: Will threaten public safety by allowing violent felons that are arrested for another felony to be released without a bond.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB357

You missed the new bill that was introduced to raise the top tax rate to 10%ish for those earning $1M+

Ironically this means you’d pay less income tax all-in in moco even with the county tax if this passes. We might see a decent amount of “wealthy” leave since moco is closer to the privates and has nicer housing stock in CCMD, Bethesda, etc vs McLean and Arlington at those price points. Or they’ll call it even with DC given the free pre-k there and move to NW.

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Anonymous wrote:It looks like the state legislature wants to copy Maryland’s failed policies in Virginia. Here’s a summary of some of the disastrous laws proposed this year.

HB378: will implement a state level net investment income tax and drive residents out of Virginia.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB378
HB537: Will threaten public safety by allowing violent felons that are arrested for another felony to be released without a bond.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB357

You missed the new bill that was introduced to raise the top tax rate to 10%ish for those earning $1M+

Ironically this means you’d pay less income tax all-in in moco even with the county tax if this passes. We might see a decent amount of “wealthy” leave since moco is closer to the privates and has nicer housing stock in CCMD, Bethesda, etc vs McLean and Arlington at those price points. Or they’ll call it even with DC given the free pre-k there and move to NW.

Yes, that one to raise top rate to 10% then us the money for low-income housing ugh. They proposed that bill last year and it went nowhere.

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I was ready to leave back when the insane VA GOP tried to force women to get vaginal ultrasounds.

Fortunately, we've come a long way since then. Time to get rid of the MAGA trash.

?? what?

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I was ready to leave back when the insane VA GOP tried to force women to get vaginal ultrasounds.

Fortunately, we've come a long way since then. Time to get rid of the MAGA trash.

?? what?

I believe that several years back VA tried to make trans vaginal ultrasounds a requirement if you were having an abortion. But that received a lot of backlash and did not get passed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It looks like the state legislature wants to copy Maryland’s failed policies in Virginia. Here’s a summary of some of the disastrous laws proposed this year.

HB378: will implement a state level net investment income tax and drive residents out of Virginia.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB378
HB537: Will threaten public safety by allowing violent felons that are arrested for another felony to be released without a bond.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB357

the AWB will ensure that democrats will never win another election in Virgina after this, just like the clinton era AWB created a two decade dominance by the GOP

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Anonymous wrote:It looks like the state legislature wants to copy Maryland’s failed policies in Virginia. Here’s a summary of some of the disastrous laws proposed this year.

HB378: will implement a state level net investment income tax and drive residents out of Virginia.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB378
HB537: Will threaten public safety by allowing violent felons that are arrested for another felony to be released without a bond.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB357

the AWB will ensure that democrats will never win another election in Virgina after this, just like the clinton era AWB created a two decade dominance by the GOP

I’m a solid moderate and was cracking up at the Dems over in the nova and Virginia Reddit forums freaking out over the gun control legislation VA is trying to pass since many of them now support 2A rights given Trump.

You get what you vote for - if you vote in a Dem supermajority, it’s gonna do Dem supermajority BS, same as when the GOP gets a supermajority and they go all fundie.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It looks like the state legislature wants to copy Maryland’s failed policies in Virginia. Here’s a summary of some of the disastrous laws proposed this year.

HB378: will implement a state level net investment income tax and drive residents out of Virginia.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB378
HB537: Will threaten public safety by allowing violent felons that are arrested for another felony to be released without a bond.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB357

the AWB will ensure that democrats will never win another election in Virgina after this, just like the clinton era AWB created a two decade dominance by the GOP

Don’t worry we will just make sure LEO give you the Good treatment at traffic stops.

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Anonymous wrote:It looks like the state legislature wants to copy Maryland’s failed policies in Virginia. Here’s a summary of some of the disastrous laws proposed this year.

HB378: will implement a state level net investment income tax and drive residents out of Virginia.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB378
HB537: Will threaten public safety by allowing violent felons that are arrested for another felony to be released without a bond.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB357

the AWB will ensure that democrats will never win another election in Virgina after this, just like the clinton era AWB created a two decade dominance by the GOP

I’m a solid moderate and was cracking up at the Dems over in the nova and Virginia Reddit forums freaking out over the gun control legislation VA is trying to pass since many of them now support 2A rights given Trump.

You get what you vote for - if you vote in a Dem supermajority, it’s gonna do Dem supermajority BS, same as when the GOP gets a supermajority and they go all fundie.

We will always have strongly worded messages until they start locking up people as terrorists for speaking ou... Oh. Damn.

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Anonymous wrote:It looks like the state legislature wants to copy Maryland’s failed policies in Virginia. Here’s a summary of some of the disastrous laws proposed this year.

HB378: will implement a state level net investment income tax and drive residents out of Virginia.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB378
HB537: Will threaten public safety by allowing violent felons that are arrested for another felony to be released without a bond.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB357

Does Maryland actually have both these laws/policies?

Maryland does have overly permissive/forgiving policies for violent criminals. They don’t have a state level net investment income tax but they have a local income tax (in addition to regular state income tax) that has a similar rate to this proposed tax.

Eg. The Maryland Second Look Act passed 2025 allows some violent convicted murderers to request a request a reduction in their sentence after 20 years in prison.

Seems like the Christian thing to do. Aren’t all people supposed to be capable of redemption? Isn’t the point of our prison system supposed to be rehabilitation? If someone isn’t dangerous anymore (or perhaps wasn’t all that dangerous in the first place ahem 14 year olds in the wrong place at the wrong time and tried as adults), why do we need to spend $40k per year keeping them locked up?

If the goal is strictly punishment, you might as well just execute everyone.

Have we locked up a lot of 14 year olds for 20 years that were just in the wrong place at the wrong time? Can we see a list of these victims?

I think it's ridiculous we try children as adults in this country in the first place.

For violent crimes?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It looks like the state legislature wants to copy Maryland’s failed policies in Virginia. Here’s a summary of some of the disastrous laws proposed this year.

HB378: will implement a state level net investment income tax and drive residents out of Virginia.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB378
HB537: Will threaten public safety by allowing violent felons that are arrested for another felony to be released without a bond.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB357

You missed the new bill that was introduced to raise the top tax rate to 10%ish for those earning $1M+

Ironically this means you’d pay less income tax all-in in moco even with the county tax if this passes. We might see a decent amount of “wealthy” leave since moco is closer to the privates and has nicer housing stock in CCMD, Bethesda, etc vs McLean and Arlington at those price points. Or they’ll call it even with DC given the free pre-k there and move to NW.

And what makes you think that progressive Maryland politicians will not propose its own wealth taxes to match VA?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It looks like the state legislature wants to copy Maryland’s failed policies in Virginia. Here’s a summary of some of the disastrous laws proposed this year.

HB378: will implement a state level net investment income tax and drive residents out of Virginia.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB378
HB537: Will threaten public safety by allowing violent felons that are arrested for another felony to be released without a bond.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB357

the AWB will ensure that democrats will never win another election in Virgina after this, just like the clinton era AWB created a two decade dominance by the GOP

We’re in a different place now. Everyone except the 2A extremists is tired of all of the gun violence.

AWB is a no brainer.

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Anonymous wrote:It looks like the state legislature wants to copy Maryland’s failed policies in Virginia. Here’s a summary of some of the disastrous laws proposed this year.

HB378: will implement a state level net investment income tax and drive residents out of Virginia.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB378
HB537: Will threaten public safety by allowing violent felons that are arrested for another felony to be released without a bond.
https://lis.virginia.gov/bill-details/20261/HB357

Does Maryland actually have both these laws/policies?

Maryland does have overly permissive/forgiving policies for violent criminals. They don’t have a state level net investment income tax but they have a local income tax (in addition to regular state income tax) that has a similar rate to this proposed tax.

Eg. The Maryland Second Look Act passed 2025 allows some violent convicted murderers to request a request a reduction in their sentence after 20 years in prison.

How is this overly permissive? It’s just a request/review and the felon has to serve 20 years first.

Because this law is based on an emotional narrative about “second chances” and rehabilitation. It is not based on actual data that supports the idea and it creates a significant threat to public safety. The recidivism rate for violent criminals is is atrocious. Around 79% of violent criminals are rearrested within 9 years of their release. Even if you a just looking at repeat violent crimes a staggering 43% of these people are arrested again for a violent crime within 9 years. Furthermore, a significant percentage of violent crime are never solved, so the actual percentage of these people is committing violent crimes within 9 years is much higher. The repeat violent crime rate is definitely above 50% after adjusting for crimes that were commited by this population but go unsolved. It makes zero sense to give convicted violent criminals(especially convicted murders) second chances when the majority of them will victimize someone else with a violent crime within a decade of being released.
https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/18upr9yfup0514.pdf
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/06/us/murder-solve-rate-louisville.html

You don’t understand the bill and the data you provided does not support your position.

If you look at people who go to jail before the age of 25, the rehab rehabilitation rate is much higher.

The data you provided is for all ages.

Also, the bill is just for people under the age of 25.