What's Missing From DS's LAC list

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CMC is unusually fratty without have fraternities. Lots of drinking, drugs, bro culture, etc.

CMC would be an unusual choice for one attracted to Wesleyan, Haverford, & Reed.

Others have suggested Vassar; Vassar College is very woke/politically correct campus. Is that what your son wants ? (Would be similar to Haverford College.)

From the west coast and have never heard of this. You sure you’re talking about the right school? Claremont McKenna is known as athletic but very nerdy- hell their favorite things to do on the weekend is dress up and listen to philosophers, political theorists, and writers. When we last toured, there was a class outside debating the value of Franciscan thought in the modern church and our guide’s favorite class was a gender studies course. Of the 5Cs it reminds me the most of my own northeast liberal arts college experience.

CMC/Mudd men's swim team was temporarily suspended last month for misconduct of a racist sort. https://www.claremontindependent.com/post/cms-men-s-swim-and-dive-team-investigated-for-misconduct-temporarily-suspended

...and is currently active and competing. This is a non-issue pushed by someone on here with an agenda, who continues to link this random event.

It's not a random thing. The same swim team had a hazing book that had racist and sexist language and was suspended. The soccer team was suspended recently (last year) for extreme hazing.

Bottom line: the athletes (roughly half of males at CMC) have a very different culture than the other students. CMC despite its very small size of students fields a men's football, baseball, soccer, swim, water polo, etc. teams. It is technically fielded jointly with Mudd but Mudd contributes just a few athletes, and most are recruited athletes to CMC who carry these teams. It is a big part of male student culture at CMC and it is described as very "fratty" not just inside CMC but disparangingly by the other 5Cs who are more nerdy.

This just isn't true. I'm unsure what your agenda is. one team was sanctioned and they played nearly immediately after. Accidents and mistakes happen. People say things uncritically sometimes, but also, you haven't actually said anything of importance, just made massive claims about the swim team, which OP is not looking into. They want to know the experience at CMC.

My kid is at CMC. He loves it. His younger siblings (with Ivy stats on SAT/IB) now want to go to CMC ED1 based on his experience. He does fit the culture of the school (extraverts who work hard and play hard with a pre-professional orientation). We see a happy supportive campus with a lot of thoughtful dialogue (including about the incidents cited here). What is he getting out of CMC: a great education, a love for learning from the small classes/Ath, friends for life who support each other when the chips are down, highly evolved social skills, great memories, and amazing career prospects. He has made full use of the resources taking classes at Pomona & Mudd, and is involved in clubs involving all 5C. That is just one person's experience, and this school is not for everyone as it does have its culture.

What culture? Sounds like many students would like such an environment.

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Anonymous wrote:Look into Williams- top lac. Basically the Harvard of liberal arts colleges and much better than Kenyon. More resources than Yale. Best endowment per student. Also the philosophy program is known as the best undergraduate philosophy program amongst those “who know”

In that, based on IPEDS information, just 4 students graduated with a first major in philosophy in a recent year, and in that the strength of a philosophy program may depend on the size of the student community, the above assertion doesn't appear especially plausible. To place this figure in further context, the ratio of economics to philosophy majors at Williams for this same year was 29 to 1.

College Navigator - Williams College https://share.google/GuzUCaMs34P1X5RQM

No the strength of an academic program is the number of faculty and resources dedicated to that department.

Even should there be, say, zero students majoring in that field?

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Anonymous wrote:DS is all in on a liberal arts college. He is applying currently as a Philosophy and Government/Politics major with career plans pending. He's especially into colleges with a good literary/writing community and a chill student vibe (he's not looking for the neurotic grind you see at some other top schools). Top stats at a decent private boarding school. extra points if the campus is pretty!
So far:
Amherst
Pomona
Kenyon (top choice, adored the tour, facilities, and community)
Middlebury
Wesleyan (second top choice)
Haverford
Sewanee
Reed

Bard. They have an excellent writing program. All students go for three weeks prior to starting as freshman for "Learning & Thinking." They just increased their endowment past $1B. The campus is stunning. They are launching another $1B endowment fund raising challenge.

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Anonymous wrote:Look into Williams- top lac. Basically the Harvard of liberal arts colleges and much better than Kenyon. More resources than Yale. Best endowment per student. Also the philosophy program is known as the best undergraduate philosophy program amongst those “who know”

In that, based on IPEDS information, just 4 students graduated with a first major in philosophy in a recent year, and in that the strength of a philosophy program may depend on the size of the student community, the above assertion doesn't appear especially plausible. To place this figure in further context, the ratio of economics to philosophy majors at Williams for this same year was 29 to 1.

College Navigator - Williams College https://share.google/GuzUCaMs34P1X5RQM

No the strength of an academic program is the number of faculty and resources dedicated to that department.

Even should there be, say, zero students majoring in that field?

But there aren’t. Even then that isn’t suddenly a bad academic program if there’s enough faculty to fully sustain a department. There’s about 7 permanent faculty in the Williams philosophy department. That’s great and students can thrive there without needing an oversubscribed major.

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Anonymous wrote:DS is all in on a liberal arts college. He is applying currently as a Philosophy and Government/Politics major with career plans pending. He's especially into colleges with a good literary/writing community and a chill student vibe (he's not looking for the neurotic grind you see at some other top schools). Top stats at a decent private boarding school. extra points if the campus is pretty!
So far:
Amherst
Pomona
Kenyon (top choice, adored the tour, facilities, and community)
Middlebury
Wesleyan (second top choice)
Haverford
Sewanee
Reed

Bard. They have an excellent writing program. All students go for three weeks prior to starting as freshman for "Learning & Thinking." They just increased their endowment past $1B. The campus is stunning. They are launching another $1B endowment fund raising challenge.

Keep in mind that Bard is incredibly woke, and their endowment comes from George Soros. Also, their six-year graduation rate is barely 70%.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DS is all in on a liberal arts college. He is applying currently as a Philosophy and Government/Politics major with career plans pending. He's especially into colleges with a good literary/writing community and a chill student vibe (he's not looking for the neurotic grind you see at some other top schools). Top stats at a decent private boarding school. extra points if the campus is pretty!
So far:
Amherst
Pomona
Kenyon (top choice, adored the tour, facilities, and community)
Middlebury
Wesleyan (second top choice)
Haverford
Sewanee
Reed

Bard. They have an excellent writing program. All students go for three weeks prior to starting as freshman for "Learning & Thinking." They just increased their endowment past $1B. The campus is stunning. They are launching another $1B endowment fund raising challenge.

Keep in mind that Bard is incredibly woke, and their endowment comes from George Soros. Also, their six-year graduation rate is barely 70%.

What specifically is the problem with George Soros making a philanthropic donation to Bard?

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Hobart and William Smith - beautiful setting, chill vibe

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:DS is all in on a liberal arts college. He is applying currently as a Philosophy and Government/Politics major with career plans pending. He's especially into colleges with a good literary/writing community and a chill student vibe (he's not looking for the neurotic grind you see at some other top schools). Top stats at a decent private boarding school. extra points if the campus is pretty!
So far:
Amherst
Pomona
Kenyon (top choice, adored the tour, facilities, and community)
Middlebury
Wesleyan (second top choice)
Haverford
Sewanee
Reed

Bard. They have an excellent writing program. All students go for three weeks prior to starting as freshman for "Learning & Thinking." They just increased their endowment past $1B. The campus is stunning. They are launching another $1B endowment fund raising challenge.

Keep in mind that Bard is incredibly woke, and their endowment comes from George Soros. Also, their six-year graduation rate is barely 70%.

Get real. OP’s top choice is Kenyon.