Why are you so obsessed with Israel? Israel’s government has gone off the crazy deep end, but it’s not that much different from Iran’s or Hungary’s. Why do you go crazy about Israel and never about Iran, Hungary or Turkey? If you’re Palestinian: Why are you so down on Palestinians that you think your government will be any less obnoxious or good at spycraft than Israel’s government? |
Damn, imagine if the people living in the Holy Land in the first 1/2 of the last century were able to benefit from a leader like Trump to keep Zionists out?! World would be a much safer, saner, and more peaceful place right now, that’s for sure. |
I’m someone with a strong connection to one side in one of the conflicts here. As long as we’re all peaceful enough that we’re not on a violent loon watchlist: Why the heck should we be keeping tourists out because they disagree with me? My kid disagrees with me. Why should we try to exclude people who think like my wonderful kid, purely because they have what I think are stupidity views about a complicated issue? |
Why? Because the names on the “watchlist” are selected by people with a dog in the fight, that’s why? You didn’t think God or Judge Judy built the list, did you? |
I’m Jewish. Letting Trump create a Gestapo who goes through everyone’s phones for mean comments about his hair is a lot more of a threat to me than letting in people who now have a negative view about Netanyahu. If people have active plans to hurt me, keep them out. If they simply are prejudiced against me: We all have dumb prejudices. Let’s figure out ways to spread good vibes and reduce the prejudice that way, not think establishing a Gestapo is good medicine for prejudice. |
The watchlist itself is problematic, and efforts to create and manage it ought to be subject to a lot of oversight, but we’re simply always going to have some kind of list of people who’ve talked about doing awful things in public, or who do have active communications with awful people. This isn’t Utopia. This is Earth. Your list of who’s awful might be different from mine, but you have a ln idea of who’d be on your list, too. But there’s a difference between, say, tracking convicted terrorists and making all people try to remember all of their TikTok user names. |
Last I checked, no one was being detained for criticism of Iran, Hungary or Turkey. |
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THIS for G-d’s sake. |
Jesus Christ, are you serious?! Because we don’t goddamned fund, arm with bleeding edge weaponry, bully the rest of the world, and basically act as a pawn for Hungary and Iran. FFS, the real question is why don’t YOU understand the reason people here in the U.S. focus on Israel’s misdeeds?! |
I love your perspective, thank you. |