Pamela Anderson interview

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Anonymous wrote:I think what’s being missed in this conversation is Pamela Anderson going to make up free is not just the average celebrity. This is a woman who was objectified and sexualized even more than the average female celebrity, which is saying a lot.

She is really trying to strip all of that away and it is making a statement that she’s still doing red carpets, still out in the public and working and is in a viable person in her late 50s without trying to look glamorous without being known for her looks.

I recently read Brooke Shields’s memoir, and she says that periodically she meets usually a man who is surprised that she’s out and about and bordering on angry that she has gotten old. They say the most insane things to her and her theory on why is that she was known as this gorgeous young woman and that seeing her age makes them feel old and reminds them that they too are aging.

You don’t have to like it or agree with Pamela going make up free, but it is interesting that people are having strong reactions to it, both positive and negative.

You make it sound like she was some sort of victim. She wasn't.

Someone literally broke into her house and stole a private tape she made with her husband and sold it on the internet. And then she was shamed and made into a joke for it. How wasn't she a victim there?

PP here. You're being nit picky.

You mean that she was a victim of a crime, like plenty of other people often are? Sure, I can see that. I've had my home broken into too, and it's not nice. It probably hurt her more than it did me as she's in the public eye. However, that's not what I was referring to when I said she wasn't a victim.

The poster I was responding to said that Anderson was "objectified and sexualized". I highlighted that particular line because that's how she made her name and her living. This conversation is not about her house being broken into and a tape being stolen. But deep down, I'm sure you know that.

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I love this rewriting of her story in which we are now supposed to believe she wasn’t a proud sex symbol in Hollywood for decades. Spare us all.

Being a sex symbol isn't consent to having pornographic videos of you shared. That's the issue.

It was terrible that someone broke into her home and someone stole and exploited her sex tape. No one on here has said otherwise. Just because someone stole her sex tape, does not magically erase all of the purposeful decisions she made to exploit and profit off her own sexuality.

Precisely. Who is this weird poster who has made it her mission to be PA's PR person? So bizarre.

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Anonymous wrote:I find her "all natural" shtick so cloying and she looks horrific.

This is horrific? What is wrong with you? Please seek therapy before you destroy yourself with plastic surgery.

DP. While I didn’t write that, you must be joking if you think this looks good. A small amount of tasteful makeup would do wonders here - it’s a red carpet event, not working outside in her garden.

NP. I actually think her skin looks amazing, considering the amount of time she must have spent in the sun during her Baywatch days.

No doubt she's had laser treatments for all the sun damage and years of drug and alcohol abuse.

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Anonymous wrote:I think what’s being missed in this conversation is Pamela Anderson going to make up free is not just the average celebrity. This is a woman who was objectified and sexualized even more than the average female celebrity, which is saying a lot.

She is really trying to strip all of that away and it is making a statement that she’s still doing red carpets, still out in the public and working and is in a viable person in her late 50s without trying to look glamorous without being known for her looks.

I recently read Brooke Shields’s memoir, and she says that periodically she meets usually a man who is surprised that she’s out and about and bordering on angry that she has gotten old. They say the most insane things to her and her theory on why is that she was known as this gorgeous young woman and that seeing her age makes them feel old and reminds them that they too are aging.

You don’t have to like it or agree with Pamela going make up free, but it is interesting that people are having strong reactions to it, both positive and negative.

You make it sound like she was some sort of victim. She wasn't.

Someone literally broke into her house and stole a private tape she made with her husband and sold it on the internet. And then she was shamed and made into a joke for it. How wasn't she a victim there?

PP here. You're being nit picky.

You mean that she was a victim of a crime, like plenty of other people often are? Sure, I can see that. I've had my home broken into too, and it's not nice. It probably hurt her more than it did me as she's in the public eye. However, that's not what I was referring to when I said she wasn't a victim.

The poster I was responding to said that Anderson was "objectified and sexualized". I highlighted that particular line because that's how she made her name and her living. This conversation is not about her house being broken into and a tape being stolen. But deep down, I'm sure you know that.

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I love this rewriting of her story in which we are now supposed to believe she wasn’t a proud sex symbol in Hollywood for decades. Spare us all.

Being a sex symbol isn't consent to having pornographic videos of you shared. That's the issue.

It was terrible that someone broke into her home and someone stole and exploited her sex tape. No one on here has said otherwise. Just because someone stole her sex tape, does not magically erase all of the purposeful decisions she made to exploit and profit off her own sexuality.

But don’t a lot of female and male celebrities exploit their sexuality when they are young? Of course there are some exceptions, but I don’t see anything wrong with what Pam did in her youth.

She’s now older and can use that so she’s pivoting. Now there’s a whole generation of women who are getting older who are enjoying this next phase. I’m sure our teen daughters don’t know who Pam is or the significance of what she’s doing but some of us in our 40s can appreciate her pivot.

I just read an interview with George Clooney. He too is pivoting. He said no more kissing women in movies - at 63 he realizes the romantic lead days are long gone. He’s leaving that to younger men - so he looking for different kind of movies - he too is pivoting. Of course, when he was young, he used his looks to his advantage because we value good looking young people, I don’t see the problem with it. If you go into entertainment looks are a big part of it.

You seem to want to say because Pamela profited off her looks when she was young now that she’s getting older she should just go away and die and never go out? I mean you are free to think that, but fortunately for her she has an audience who is happy she is doing something different.

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Anonymous wrote:I think what’s being missed in this conversation is Pamela Anderson going to make up free is not just the average celebrity. This is a woman who was objectified and sexualized even more than the average female celebrity, which is saying a lot.

She is really trying to strip all of that away and it is making a statement that she’s still doing red carpets, still out in the public and working and is in a viable person in her late 50s without trying to look glamorous without being known for her looks.

I recently read Brooke Shields’s memoir, and she says that periodically she meets usually a man who is surprised that she’s out and about and bordering on angry that she has gotten old. They say the most insane things to her and her theory on why is that she was known as this gorgeous young woman and that seeing her age makes them feel old and reminds them that they too are aging.

You don’t have to like it or agree with Pamela going make up free, but it is interesting that people are having strong reactions to it, both positive and negative.

You make it sound like she was some sort of victim. She wasn't.

Someone literally broke into her house and stole a private tape she made with her husband and sold it on the internet. And then she was shamed and made into a joke for it. How wasn't she a victim there?

PP here. You're being nit picky.

You mean that she was a victim of a crime, like plenty of other people often are? Sure, I can see that. I've had my home broken into too, and it's not nice. It probably hurt her more than it did me as she's in the public eye. However, that's not what I was referring to when I said she wasn't a victim.

The poster I was responding to said that Anderson was "objectified and sexualized". I highlighted that particular line because that's how she made her name and her living. This conversation is not about her house being broken into and a tape being stolen. But deep down, I'm sure you know that.

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I love this rewriting of her story in which we are now supposed to believe she wasn’t a proud sex symbol in Hollywood for decades. Spare us all.

Being a sex symbol isn't consent to having pornographic videos of you shared. That's the issue.

It was terrible that someone broke into her home and someone stole and exploited her sex tape. No one on here has said otherwise. Just because someone stole her sex tape, does not magically erase all of the purposeful decisions she made to exploit and profit off her own sexuality.

But don’t a lot of female and male celebrities exploit their sexuality when they are young? Of course there are some exceptions, but I don’t see anything wrong with what Pam did in her youth.

She’s now older and can use that so she’s pivoting. Now there’s a whole generation of women who are getting older who are enjoying this next phase. I’m sure our teen daughters don’t know who Pam is or the significance of what she’s doing but some of us in our 40s can appreciate her pivot.

I just read an interview with George Clooney. He too is pivoting. He said no more kissing women in movies - at 63 he realizes the romantic lead days are long gone. He’s leaving that to younger men - so he looking for different kind of movies - he too is pivoting. Of course, when he was young, he used his looks to his advantage because we value good looking young people, I don’t see the problem with it. If you go into entertainment looks are a big part of it.

You seem to want to say because Pamela profited off her looks when she was young now that she’s getting older she should just go away and die and never go out? I mean you are free to think that, but fortunately for her she has an audience who is happy she is doing something different.

You have a flair for the dramatic and making things up. No one said she should just go away and die and never go out. No point in having a discussion with someone who is so clearly irrational.

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She is in the cover of People this week discussing her latest ventures and the no makeup look.

She makes a good point that makeup is not great for your skin and she just wants clean skin. It aligns well with her vegan clean beauty company actually. Apparently her two sons are involved in the company as well and they are enjoying running it together. Her sons seem like they turned out really well.

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Anonymous wrote:She is in the cover of People this week discussing her latest ventures and the no makeup look.

She makes a good point that makeup is not great for your skin and she just wants clean skin. It aligns well with her vegan clean beauty company actually. Apparently her two sons are involved in the company as well and they are enjoying running it together. Her sons seem like they turned out really well.

I think she has always felt this way about skin and makeup. I remember waaayyy back in the day Jane magazine (RIP) gave her a "make under" and she talked about how a lot of how the public perceives her when she it out with the makeup and hair and boobs is not really reflective of how she is in private and how most of that time she was hanging makeupless with her boys which was more her true self.

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Anonymous wrote:I think what’s being missed in this conversation is Pamela Anderson going to make up free is not just the average celebrity. This is a woman who was objectified and sexualized even more than the average female celebrity, which is saying a lot.

She is really trying to strip all of that away and it is making a statement that she’s still doing red carpets, still out in the public and working and is in a viable person in her late 50s without trying to look glamorous without being known for her looks.

I recently read Brooke Shields’s memoir, and she says that periodically she meets usually a man who is surprised that she’s out and about and bordering on angry that she has gotten old. They say the most insane things to her and her theory on why is that she was known as this gorgeous young woman and that seeing her age makes them feel old and reminds them that they too are aging.

You don’t have to like it or agree with Pamela going make up free, but it is interesting that people are having strong reactions to it, both positive and negative.

You make it sound like she was some sort of victim. She wasn't.

Someone literally broke into her house and stole a private tape she made with her husband and sold it on the internet. And then she was shamed and made into a joke for it. How wasn't she a victim there?

PP here. You're being nit picky.

You mean that she was a victim of a crime, like plenty of other people often are? Sure, I can see that. I've had my home broken into too, and it's not nice. It probably hurt her more than it did me as she's in the public eye. However, that's not what I was referring to when I said she wasn't a victim.

The poster I was responding to said that Anderson was "objectified and sexualized". I highlighted that particular line because that's how she made her name and her living. This conversation is not about her house being broken into and a tape being stolen. But deep down, I'm sure you know that.

+1000
I love this rewriting of her story in which we are now supposed to believe she wasn’t a proud sex symbol in Hollywood for decades. Spare us all.

Being a sex symbol isn't consent to having pornographic videos of you shared. That's the issue.

It was terrible that someone broke into her home and someone stole and exploited her sex tape. No one on here has said otherwise. Just because someone stole her sex tape, does not magically erase all of the purposeful decisions she made to exploit and profit off her own sexuality.

But don’t a lot of female and male celebrities exploit their sexuality when they are young? Of course there are some exceptions, but I don’t see anything wrong with what Pam did in her youth.

She’s now older and can use that so she’s pivoting. Now there’s a whole generation of women who are getting older who are enjoying this next phase. I’m sure our teen daughters don’t know who Pam is or the significance of what she’s doing but some of us in our 40s can appreciate her pivot.

I just read an interview with George Clooney. He too is pivoting. He said no more kissing women in movies - at 63 he realizes the romantic lead days are long gone. He’s leaving that to younger men - so he looking for different kind of movies - he too is pivoting. Of course, when he was young, he used his looks to his advantage because we value good looking young people, I don’t see the problem with it. If you go into entertainment looks are a big part of it.

You seem to want to say because Pamela profited off her looks when she was young now that she’s getting older she should just go away and die and never go out? I mean you are free to think that, but fortunately for her she has an audience who is happy she is doing something different.

DP. Wow, absolutely no one has said that. The most that has been said is simply that many of us aren't interested in praising her simply because she's decided to go makeup-free after decades of deliberately looking like a blowup sex doll. She doesn't look "beautiful" with no makeup - very few women do. These are all just facts. No one is saying she should "go away and die and never go out". Good grief, hyperbole much?

She can wear makeup or not - that's not the point. The point is that she looks very plain and very much her age (which is perfectly fine) without makeup and it's ludicrous to pretend she's somehow "groundbreaking" or "gorgeous". That's it. Nothing deeper is going on here, yet you seem to be taking this very personally.

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Anonymous wrote:I think what’s being missed in this conversation is Pamela Anderson going to make up free is not just the average celebrity. This is a woman who was objectified and sexualized even more than the average female celebrity, which is saying a lot.

She is really trying to strip all of that away and it is making a statement that she’s still doing red carpets, still out in the public and working and is in a viable person in her late 50s without trying to look glamorous without being known for her looks.

I recently read Brooke Shields’s memoir, and she says that periodically she meets usually a man who is surprised that she’s out and about and bordering on angry that she has gotten old. They say the most insane things to her and her theory on why is that she was known as this gorgeous young woman and that seeing her age makes them feel old and reminds them that they too are aging.

You don’t have to like it or agree with Pamela going make up free, but it is interesting that people are having strong reactions to it, both positive and negative.

You make it sound like she was some sort of victim. She wasn't.

Someone literally broke into her house and stole a private tape she made with her husband and sold it on the internet. And then she was shamed and made into a joke for it. How wasn't she a victim there?

PP here. You're being nit picky.

You mean that she was a victim of a crime, like plenty of other people often are? Sure, I can see that. I've had my home broken into too, and it's not nice. It probably hurt her more than it did me as she's in the public eye. However, that's not what I was referring to when I said she wasn't a victim.

The poster I was responding to said that Anderson was "objectified and sexualized". I highlighted that particular line because that's how she made her name and her living. This conversation is not about her house being broken into and a tape being stolen. But deep down, I'm sure you know that.

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I love this rewriting of her story in which we are now supposed to believe she wasn’t a proud sex symbol in Hollywood for decades. Spare us all.

Being a sex symbol isn't consent to having pornographic videos of you shared. That's the issue.

It was terrible that someone broke into her home and someone stole and exploited her sex tape. No one on here has said otherwise. Just because someone stole her sex tape, does not magically erase all of the purposeful decisions she made to exploit and profit off her own sexuality.

But don’t a lot of female and male celebrities exploit their sexuality when they are young? Of course there are some exceptions, but I don’t see anything wrong with what Pam did in her youth.

She’s now older and can use that so she’s pivoting. Now there’s a whole generation of women who are getting older who are enjoying this next phase. I’m sure our teen daughters don’t know who Pam is or the significance of what she’s doing but some of us in our 40s can appreciate her pivot.

I just read an interview with George Clooney. He too is pivoting. He said no more kissing women in movies - at 63 he realizes the romantic lead days are long gone. He’s leaving that to younger men - so he looking for different kind of movies - he too is pivoting. Of course, when he was young, he used his looks to his advantage because we value good looking young people, I don’t see the problem with it. If you go into entertainment looks are a big part of it.

You seem to want to say because Pamela profited off her looks when she was young now that she’s getting older she should just go away and die and never go out? I mean you are free to think that, but fortunately for her she has an audience who is happy she is doing something different.

You have a flair for the dramatic and making things up. No one said she should just go away and die and never go out. No point in having a discussion with someone who is so clearly irrational.

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So absurd.

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Anonymous wrote:She is in the cover of People this week discussing her latest ventures and the no makeup look.

She makes a good point that makeup is not great for your skin and she just wants clean skin. It aligns well with her vegan clean beauty company actually. Apparently her two sons are involved in the company as well and they are enjoying running it together. Her sons seem like they turned out really well.

I think she has always felt this way about skin and makeup. I remember waaayyy back in the day Jane magazine (RIP) gave her a "make under" and she talked about how a lot of how the public perceives her when she it out with the makeup and hair and boobs is not really reflective of how she is in private and how most of that time she was hanging makeupless with her boys which was more her true self.

Ok? No one was forcing her to plaster on the makeup and have enormous fake boobs all those years. Her "true self" could have emerged long ago, but she chose to keep up the sex symbol appearance.

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Anonymous wrote:She is in the cover of People this week discussing her latest ventures and the no makeup look.

She makes a good point that makeup is not great for your skin and she just wants clean skin. It aligns well with her vegan clean beauty company actually. Apparently her two sons are involved in the company as well and they are enjoying running it together. Her sons seem like they turned out really well.

I think she has always felt this way about skin and makeup. I remember waaayyy back in the day Jane magazine (RIP) gave her a "make under" and she talked about how a lot of how the public perceives her when she it out with the makeup and hair and boobs is not really reflective of how she is in private and how most of that time she was hanging makeupless with her boys which was more her true self.

Ok? No one was forcing her to plaster on the makeup and have enormous fake boobs all those years. Her "true self" could have emerged long ago, but she chose to keep up the sex symbol appearance.

ok? Why are you so triggered by her?

She can choose to be a sex symbol or not.

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I'm so confused why people get so upset by her. She had a certain image when she was younger, she feels it was exploitative (which is fair, Hollywood is very exploitative), she's now trying something different. She's not even the only celebrity doing a low/no makeup look. Alicia Keys has been doing this for years.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm so confused why people get so upset by her. She had a certain image when she was younger, she feels it was exploitative (which is fair, Hollywood is very exploitative), she's now trying something different. She's not even the only celebrity doing a low/no makeup look. Alicia Keys has been doing this for years.

Exactly. She also was really mismanaged and didn’t earn a lot of money from her career when she was younger. She was from a small town in Canada and had no one to guide her.

She has learned a lot, and now is telling her story on her terms and making money off the things that she enjoys, like her gardening show, her clean, vegan beauty line, doing comedies and theater, her documentary and memoir. Why this upsets people is beyond me.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm so confused why people get so upset by her. She had a certain image when she was younger, she feels it was exploitative (which is fair, Hollywood is very exploitative), she's now trying something different. She's not even the only celebrity doing a low/no makeup look. Alicia Keys has been doing this for years.

Exactly. She also was really mismanaged and didn’t earn a lot of money from her career when she was younger. She was from a small town in Canada and had no one to guide her.

She has learned a lot, and now is telling her story on her terms and making money off the things that she enjoys, like her gardening show, her clean, vegan beauty line, doing comedies and theater, her documentary and memoir. Why this upsets people is beyond me.

Oh look, the women from The View have joined the forum.

I haven't read any comment from anyone that seems upset that Anderson has decided to go makeup free. It's just that a few of us don't care, and don't feel that she was ever some sort of victim in her earlier career.

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Anonymous wrote:I think what’s being missed in this conversation is Pamela Anderson going to make up free is not just the average celebrity. This is a woman who was objectified and sexualized even more than the average female celebrity, which is saying a lot.

She is really trying to strip all of that away and it is making a statement that she’s still doing red carpets, still out in the public and working and is in a viable person in her late 50s without trying to look glamorous without being known for her looks.

I recently read Brooke Shields’s memoir, and she says that periodically she meets usually a man who is surprised that she’s out and about and bordering on angry that she has gotten old. They say the most insane things to her and her theory on why is that she was known as this gorgeous young woman and that seeing her age makes them feel old and reminds them that they too are aging.

You don’t have to like it or agree with Pamela going make up free, but it is interesting that people are having strong reactions to it, both positive and negative.

You make it sound like she was some sort of victim. She wasn't.

Someone literally broke into her house and stole a private tape she made with her husband and sold it on the internet. And then she was shamed and made into a joke for it. How wasn't she a victim there?

PP here. You're being nit picky.

You mean that she was a victim of a crime, like plenty of other people often are? Sure, I can see that. I've had my home broken into too, and it's not nice. It probably hurt her more than it did me as she's in the public eye. However, that's not what I was referring to when I said she wasn't a victim.

The poster I was responding to said that Anderson was "objectified and sexualized". I highlighted that particular line because that's how she made her name and her living. This conversation is not about her house being broken into and a tape being stolen. But deep down, I'm sure you know that.

+1000
I love this rewriting of her story in which we are now supposed to believe she wasn’t a proud sex symbol in Hollywood for decades. Spare us all.

Being a sex symbol isn't consent to having pornographic videos of you shared. That's the issue.

It was terrible that someone broke into her home and someone stole and exploited her sex tape. No one on here has said otherwise. Just because someone stole her sex tape, does not magically erase all of the purposeful decisions she made to exploit and profit off her own sexuality.

But don’t a lot of female and male celebrities exploit their sexuality when they are young? Of course there are some exceptions, but I don’t see anything wrong with what Pam did in her youth.

She’s now older and can use that so she’s pivoting. Now there’s a whole generation of women who are getting older who are enjoying this next phase. I’m sure our teen daughters don’t know who Pam is or the significance of what she’s doing but some of us in our 40s can appreciate her pivot.

I just read an interview with George Clooney. He too is pivoting. He said no more kissing women in movies - at 63 he realizes the romantic lead days are long gone. He’s leaving that to younger men - so he looking for different kind of movies - he too is pivoting. Of course, when he was young, he used his looks to his advantage because we value good looking young people, I don’t see the problem with it. If you go into entertainment looks are a big part of it.

You seem to want to say because Pamela profited off her looks when she was young now that she’s getting older she should just go away and die and never go out? I mean you are free to think that, but fortunately for her she has an audience who is happy she is doing something different.

DP. Wow, absolutely no one has said that. The most that has been said is simply that many of us aren't interested in praising her simply because she's decided to go makeup-free after decades of deliberately looking like a blowup sex doll. She doesn't look "beautiful" with no makeup - very few women do. These are all just facts. No one is saying she should "go away and die and never go out". Good grief, hyperbole much?

She can wear makeup or not - that's not the point. The point is that she looks very plain and very much her age (which is perfectly fine) without makeup and it's ludicrous to pretend she's somehow "groundbreaking" or "gorgeous". That's it. Nothing deeper is going on here, yet you seem to be taking this very personally.

+1 she looks like sh&t.

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Anonymous wrote:She is in the cover of People this week discussing her latest ventures and the no makeup look.

She makes a good point that makeup is not great for your skin and she just wants clean skin. It aligns well with her vegan clean beauty company actually. Apparently her two sons are involved in the company as well and they are enjoying running it together. Her sons seem like they turned out really well.

I think she has always felt this way about skin and makeup. I remember waaayyy back in the day Jane magazine (RIP) gave her a "make under" and she talked about how a lot of how the public perceives her when she it out with the makeup and hair and boobs is not really reflective of how she is in private and how most of that time she was hanging makeupless with her boys which was more her true self.

Ok? No one was forcing her to plaster on the makeup and have enormous fake boobs all those years. Her "true self" could have emerged long ago, but she chose to keep up the sex symbol appearance.

ok? Why are you so triggered by her?

She can choose to be a sex symbol or not.

Absolutely! And we can critique her choices as well. Get it?