What’s the deal with Washington & Lee?

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Anonymous wrote:The school claims nearly 60% receive significant aid, much of which is need-based aid.

It doesn't say "significant", it says "financial aid". This is a trick statement that most SLACs use, including my own, to make the institution look more financially benevolent than it is. I learned this when I served on my SLAC's board. Those statements include all students, like my own, who applied via FAFSA and are taking out the unsubsidized federal student loans of $5500-$6500 a year. My students didn't receive a single dollar from the schools they attended, yet they were included in that "X% receive financial aid" figure. It's deceptive.

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Anonymous wrote:One of the most Greek schools.

It is THE most Greek schools with 74% to 80% of the students participating in the Greek system there. Had I known that before we toured, we would not have. A faculty member explained the negative impact this system has on minority scholarship students. Although W&L does its best to attract URM students (only 4.96% black), it cannot cover the additional cost of participating in the Greek houses. So, these students sit in the dining hall with nothing to do from Thursday night to Monday morning (partying starts Thursday night there). The cost of attendance to W&L is $95,000 plus health insurance, travel costs, and frat/sorority membership. Because Greek is expected, W&L is the only school I know of that posts the participation costs of the Greek system on its Cost of Attendance page. Those costs are - in addition to the $96K, approximately $3,300 for non-residents (not living in a house) to nearly $18,000 for residents per semester, depending on chapter and housing status. Those fees push the COA well over $100,000 -$110K a year. You can find those fees in footnote 3 of the W&L cost of attendance page.

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Anonymous wrote:It had the weirdest vibe of all the schools we toured. And we have toured many!

yes there are always the “normal” schools like oberlin columbia and wesleyan for folks like you!

Name another college with dead confederates buried on the grounds. I’ll wait.

Edmund "Kirby" Smith is buried on campus at The University of the South in Sewanee, Tennessee. Not as smart as you thought you were, are you? Now run along.

So are you and pp arguing this is a positive e or negative?

I mean they are in the South. WTH do you expect ?

DP. Disinterment is what I’d suggest. Give him to the Daughters of the Confederacy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One of the most Greek schools.

It is THE most Greek schools with 74% to 80% of the students participating in the Greek system there. Had I known that before we toured, we would not have. A faculty member explained the negative impact this system has on minority scholarship students. Although W&L does its best to attract URM students (only 4.96% black), it cannot cover the additional cost of participating in the Greek houses. So, these students sit in the dining hall with nothing to do from Thursday night to Monday morning (partying starts Thursday night there). The cost of attendance to W&L is $95,000 plus health insurance, travel costs, and frat/sorority membership. Because Greek is expected, W&L is the only school I know of that posts the participation costs of the Greek system on its Cost of Attendance page. Those costs are - in addition to the $96K, approximately $3,300 for non-residents (not living in a house) to nearly $18,000 for residents per semester, depending on chapter and housing status. Those fees push the COA well over $100,000 -$110K a year. You can find those fees in footnote 3 of the W&L cost of attendance page.

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Anonymous wrote:One of the most Greek schools.

It is THE most Greek schools with 74% to 80% of the students participating in the Greek system there. Had I known that before we toured, we would not have. A faculty member explained the negative impact this system has on minority scholarship students. Although W&L does its best to attract URM students (only 4.96% black), it cannot cover the additional cost of participating in the Greek houses. So, these students sit in the dining hall with nothing to do from Thursday night to Monday morning (partying starts Thursday night there). The cost of attendance to W&L is $95,000 plus health insurance, travel costs, and frat/sorority membership. Because Greek is expected, W&L is the only school I know of that posts the participation costs of the Greek system on its Cost of Attendance page. Those costs are - in addition to the $96K, approximately $3,300 for non-residents (not living in a house) to nearly $18,000 for residents per semester, depending on chapter and housing status. Those fees push the COA well over $100,000 -$110K a year. You can find those fees in footnote 3 of the W&L cost of attendance page.

Jesus

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Anonymous wrote:One of the most Greek schools.

It is THE most Greek schools with 74% to 80% of the students participating in the Greek system there. Had I known that before we toured, we would not have. A faculty member explained the negative impact this system has on minority scholarship students. Although W&L does its best to attract URM students (only 4.96% black), it cannot cover the additional cost of participating in the Greek houses. So, these students sit in the dining hall with nothing to do from Thursday night to Monday morning (partying starts Thursday night there). The cost of attendance to W&L is $95,000 plus health insurance, travel costs, and frat/sorority membership. Because Greek is expected, W&L is the only school I know of that posts the participation costs of the Greek system on its Cost of Attendance page. Those costs are - in addition to the $96K, approximately $3,300 for non-residents (not living in a house) to nearly $18,000 for residents per semester, depending on chapter and housing status. Those fees push the COA well over $100,000 -$110K a year. You can find those fees in footnote 3 of the W&L cost of attendance page.

My kid goes there. She is not greek(rushed and decided it was not for them). Has plenty of friends both greek and non greek. Goes to parties every weekend. The only Greek event she doesn’t go to are the frat/sorority mixers/formals. And she has been invited to those by frat members as well. She never “sits in the dining hall with nothing to do”.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:One of the most Greek schools.

It is THE most Greek schools with 74% to 80% of the students participating in the Greek system there. Had I known that before we toured, we would not have. A faculty member explained the negative impact this system has on minority scholarship students. Although W&L does its best to attract URM students (only 4.96% black), it cannot cover the additional cost of participating in the Greek houses. So, these students sit in the dining hall with nothing to do from Thursday night to Monday morning (partying starts Thursday night there). The cost of attendance to W&L is $95,000 plus health insurance, travel costs, and frat/sorority membership. Because Greek is expected, W&L is the only school I know of that posts the participation costs of the Greek system on its Cost of Attendance page. Those costs are - in addition to the $96K, approximately $3,300 for non-residents (not living in a house) to nearly $18,000 for residents per semester, depending on chapter and housing status. Those fees push the COA well over $100,000 -$110K a year. You can find those fees in footnote 3 of the W&L cost of attendance page.

Perhaps the Greek system should be abolished and Lee removed if they are serious about attracting top minority students.

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Anonymous wrote:One of the most Greek schools.

It is THE most Greek schools with 74% to 80% of the students participating in the Greek system there. Had I known that before we toured, we would not have. A faculty member explained the negative impact this system has on minority scholarship students. Although W&L does its best to attract URM students (only 4.96% black), it cannot cover the additional cost of participating in the Greek houses. So, these students sit in the dining hall with nothing to do from Thursday night to Monday morning (partying starts Thursday night there). The cost of attendance to W&L is $95,000 plus health insurance, travel costs, and frat/sorority membership. Because Greek is expected, W&L is the only school I know of that posts the participation costs of the Greek system on its Cost of Attendance page. Those costs are - in addition to the $96K, approximately $3,300 for non-residents (not living in a house) to nearly $18,000 for residents per semester, depending on chapter and housing status. Those fees push the COA well over $100,000 -$110K a year. You can find those fees in footnote 3 of the W&L cost of attendance page.

Perhaps the Greek system should be abolished and Lee removed if they are serious about attracting top minority students.

Change the name, make it less party. Why in the world would I still spend $100K+ to have my kid go there?

This niche that found a nice school that doesn't gel with DCUM better there then here.

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Anonymous wrote:One of the most Greek schools.

It is THE most Greek schools with 74% to 80% of the students participating in the Greek system there. Had I known that before we toured, we would not have. A faculty member explained the negative impact this system has on minority scholarship students. Although W&L does its best to attract URM students (only 4.96% black), it cannot cover the additional cost of participating in the Greek houses. So, these students sit in the dining hall with nothing to do from Thursday night to Monday morning (partying starts Thursday night there). The cost of attendance to W&L is $95,000 plus health insurance, travel costs, and frat/sorority membership. Because Greek is expected, W&L is the only school I know of that posts the participation costs of the Greek system on its Cost of Attendance page. Those costs are - in addition to the $96K, approximately $3,300 for non-residents (not living in a house) to nearly $18,000 for residents per semester, depending on chapter and housing status. Those fees push the COA well over $100,000 -$110K a year. You can find those fees in footnote 3 of the W&L cost of attendance page.

Perhaps the Greek system should be abolished and Lee removed if they are serious about attracting top minority students.

Change the name, make it less party. Why in the world would I still spend $100K+ to have my kid go there?

This niche that found a nice school that doesn't gel with DCUM better there then here.

You pay 100k to party with dead confederates? lol joke is on you

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Anonymous wrote:If you are in the top 1% and live in the south you know W&L. Otherwise you are not W&L’s target market. IYKYK

This is all you need to know about W&L. Full of smart, rich, accomplished and interesting kids from the best families in the South. A great fit for kids who want to be happy and successful. A poor fit for kids who think they'll find anything of value at Bryn Mawr or Oberlin.

Could a non-white family be considered best?

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Of course, but W&L is only 4.96% Black, so that should be considered.

Why is W&L struggling to enroll Black students? Does Robert E Lee’s crypt have anything to do with that?

Cute.

The average black population at top SLACs and most elite colleges( think top 50 or so) is....drum roll...5%!