What’s the deal with Washington & Lee?

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Anonymous wrote:PP, why do you assume OP is a VA resident with in-state options there to consider for a lower cost? So many posters here make that assumption over and over again and it drives me crazy. Lots of us here are in MD and DC.

+10. The only VA schools I would consider paying OOS tuition for are UVA and W&M.

That’s odd because VT is ranked better than W&M.

You really should look beyond or at least more carefully at US News rankings. W&M has traditionally been ranked much higher than VT until US News changed the criteria (removed student/teacher ratio, added first-gen numbers). I am not saying the criteria was better before or now, but it is different. If you want to compare something consistent: look at the test scores at the schools and look at incoming freshman GPAs. W&M is far above VT and, in fact, very close to UVA.

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Anonymous wrote:One of the most Greek schools.

You say that like it is a negative.

For most people that is a plus. Only dweebs and losers would think that is a detriment.

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Anonymous wrote:It had the weirdest vibe of all the schools we toured. And we have toured many!

yes there are always the “normal” schools like oberlin columbia and wesleyan for folks like you!

Name another college with dead confederates buried on the grounds. I’ll wait.

Quite a few with slaveholder names.

Most of the top colleges in the U.S. aren't clean from the original sin of slavery or anti-black racism.

I’ll ask again. Name another college with a confederate corpse on campus.

DP. Seriously? You realize UVA has a Confederate cemetery where 1,097 Confederate soldiers are buried, right? Are you suggesting they be dug up and interred elsewhere?

They’re not in a university building. You have to admit having the corpse of Lee himself in the W&L chapel presents a situation that’s in a league of its own.

The only person I know who went to W&L undergrad is Rita Davis, who is black (she got a full ride) and was Northam's legal counsel and was the mastermind in getting the Lee statute removed in Richmond. So some things come full circle. She's super smart BTW.

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Anonymous wrote:It had the weirdest vibe of all the schools we toured. And we have toured many!

Didn’t seem any different from any other LAC we visited. Seemed perfect for the DCUM demographic, and there were many such kids there when we went.

What really? It is much more southern and conservative than any of the LACs I visited with my kids. But granted, the others were in Pennsylvania and New England but still. I don't think it is perfect for the DCUM demographic, at least not my circles.

What makes it conservative? Be specific

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Anonymous wrote:PP, why do you assume OP is a VA resident with in-state options there to consider for a lower cost? So many posters here make that assumption over and over again and it drives me crazy. Lots of us here are in MD and DC.

+10. The only VA schools I would consider paying OOS tuition for are UVA and W&M.

That’s odd because VT is ranked better than W&M.

You really should look beyond or at least more carefully at US News rankings. W&M has traditionally been ranked much higher than VT until US News changed the criteria (removed student/teacher ratio, added first-gen numbers). I am not saying the criteria was better before or now, but it is different. If you want to compare something consistent: look at the test scores at the schools and look at incoming freshman GPAs. W&M is far above VT and, in fact, very close to UVA.

Test scores are meaningless at TO colleges. Try again

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Anonymous wrote:One of the most Greek schools.

You say that like it is a negative.

For most people that is a plus. Only dweebs and losers would think that is a detriment.

DP.

Lol. I was in a fraternity and would definitely not want my kids going to a Greek-dominated school.

Has its place, but not front and center.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It had the weirdest vibe of all the schools we toured. And we have toured many!

yes there are always the “normal” schools like oberlin columbia and wesleyan for folks like you!

Name another college with dead confederates buried on the grounds. I’ll wait.

Edmund "Kirby" Smith is buried on campus at The University of the South in Sewanee, Tennessee. Not as smart as you thought you were, are you? Now run along.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP, why do you assume OP is a VA resident with in-state options there to consider for a lower cost? So many posters here make that assumption over and over again and it drives me crazy. Lots of us here are in MD and DC.

+10. The only VA schools I would consider paying OOS tuition for are UVA and W&M.

That’s odd because VT is ranked better than W&M.

Do you have an alert on your phone that lets you know WM has been mentioned in a thread? You chime in with this same comment on cue every time. I know you’re pushing this narrative despite publicly available information about the credentials of the kids accepted to UVA and WM being almost identical and the change is USN criteria accounting for the ranking changes. You don’t need to try this hard to make VT happen. It’s already a really good school with bright, talented kids, but this just makes you look desperate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It had the weirdest vibe of all the schools we toured. And we have toured many!

yes there are always the “normal” schools like oberlin columbia and wesleyan for folks like you!

Name another college with dead confederates buried on the grounds. I’ll wait.

Edmund "Kirby" Smith is buried on campus at The University of the South in Sewanee, Tennessee. Not as smart as you thought you were, are you? Now run along.

Is Kirby’s corpse in a university building?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It had the weirdest vibe of all the schools we toured. And we have toured many!

yes there are always the “normal” schools like oberlin columbia and wesleyan for folks like you!

Name another college with dead confederates buried on the grounds. I’ll wait.

Edmund "Kirby" Smith is buried on campus at The University of the South in Sewanee, Tennessee. Not as smart as you thought you were, are you? Now run along.

DP. You’re citing Sewanee as a defense of W&L?

Think you missed the point

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP, why do you assume OP is a VA resident with in-state options there to consider for a lower cost? So many posters here make that assumption over and over again and it drives me crazy. Lots of us here are in MD and DC.

+10. The only VA schools I would consider paying OOS tuition for are UVA and W&M.

That’s odd because VT is ranked better than W&M.

Do you have an alert on your phone that lets you know WM has been mentioned in a thread? You chime in with this same comment on cue every time. I know you’re pushing this narrative despite publicly available information about the credentials of the kids accepted to UVA and WM being almost identical and the change is USN criteria accounting for the ranking changes. You don’t need to try this hard to make VT happen. It’s already a really good school with bright, talented kids, but this just makes you look desperate.

Deal with it

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Anonymous wrote:I thought it was all male. It was in the Hampden Sydney, Hollins, Sweet Briar category when I was in college—for the rich less bright southern kids. But this was the early 90s. Even then WL was top of those.

As a native NoVA it always made me think of the HS in Arlington of the same name. (Renamed Washington Liberty)

W&L used to be an all male school; became co-ed in 1985 (although the law school at W&L admitted women in the early 1970s). Based on some who attended when it was all-male, there was a significant closeted gay population.

W&L has always had--and still has--a weird vibe. The Johnson Scholarship program tries to attract nicer students with generous scholarships. Need leadership potential, good grades, pass an interview, and have financial need if I recall correctly.

Beautiful location. Largest Greek population in the country.

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Anonymous wrote:It had the weirdest vibe of all the schools we toured. And we have toured many!

Didn’t seem any different from any other LAC we visited. Seemed perfect for the DCUM demographic, and there were many such kids there when we went.

What really? It is much more southern and conservative than any of the LACs I visited with my kids. But granted, the others were in Pennsylvania and New England but still. I don't think it is perfect for the DCUM demographic, at least not my circles.

I didn't see anything southern or conservative about it when I was there. What was it that you saw that made you think that? There were no Confederate flags or Trump flags or anything. Every kid my kid talked to was another kid from NoVA. The presentation we saw featured some girl from Great Falls who was doing charity work in Africa. Total DCUM type kid.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought it was all male. It was in the Hampden Sydney, Hollins, Sweet Briar category when I was in college—for the rich less bright southern kids. But this was the early 90s. Even then WL was top of those.

As a native NoVA it always made me think of the HS in Arlington of the same name. (Renamed Washington Liberty)

W&L used to be an all male school; became co-ed in 1985 (although the law school at W&L admitted women in the early 1970s). Based on some who attended when it was all-male, there was a significant closeted gay population.

W&L has always had--and still has--a weird vibe. The Johnson Scholarship program tries to attract nicer students with generous scholarships. Need leadership potential, good grades, pass an interview, and have financial need if I recall correctly.

Beautiful location. Largest Greek population in the country.

I should have written: Highest percentage of students who go Greek of any school in the nation.