What’s the deal with Washington & Lee?

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Anonymous wrote:If you are in the top 1% and live in the south you know W&L. Otherwise you are not W&L’s target market. IYKYK

This is all you need to know about W&L. Full of smart, rich, accomplished and interesting kids from the best families in the South. A great fit for kids who want to be happy and successful. A poor fit for kids who think they'll find anything of value at Bryn Mawr or Oberlin.

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Anonymous wrote:If you are in the top 1% and live in the south you know W&L. Otherwise you are not W&L’s target market. IYKYK

This is all you need to know about W&L. Full of smart, rich, accomplished and interesting kids from the best families in the South. A great fit for kids who want to be happy and successful. A poor fit for kids who think they'll find anything of value at Bryn Mawr or Oberlin.

Could a non-white family be considered best?

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Anonymous wrote:If you are in the top 1% and live in the south you know W&L. Otherwise you are not W&L’s target market. IYKYK

This is all you need to know about W&L. Full of smart, rich, accomplished and interesting kids from the best families in the South. A great fit for kids who want to be happy and successful. A poor fit for kids who think they'll find anything of value at Bryn Mawr or Oberlin.

The “best” families?

Yuck. And I know several of them.

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Anonymous wrote:If you are in the top 1% and live in the south you know W&L. Otherwise you are not W&L’s target market. IYKYK

This is all you need to know about W&L. Full of smart, rich, accomplished and interesting kids from the best families in the South. A great fit for kids who want to be happy and successful. A poor fit for kids who think they'll find anything of value at Bryn Mawr or Oberlin.

That says it all. LOL

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Would a liberal be welcome at W&L?

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Anonymous wrote:I thought it was all male. It was in the Hampden Sydney, Hollins, Sweet Briar category when I was in college—for the rich less bright southern kids. But this was the early 90s. Even then WL was top of those.

As a native NoVA it always made me think of the HS in Arlington of the same name. (Renamed Washington Liberty)

W&L used to be an all male school; became co-ed in 1985 (although the law school at W&L admitted women in the early 1970s). Based on some who attended when it was all-male, there was a significant closeted gay population.

W&L has always had--and still has--a weird vibe. The Johnson Scholarship program tries to attract nicer students with generous scholarships. Need leadership potential, good grades, pass an interview, and have financial need if I recall correctly.

Beautiful location. Largest Greek population in the country.

No financial need required for the Johnson Scholarship. It is purely a merit scholarship. They use it to draw ivy-caliber kids and high achieving underrepresented kids to the school. My kid is at the school now. Their Johnson Friends are super-smart and very accomplished.

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Anonymous wrote:Would a liberal be welcome at W&L?

PP here. There is about a 50/50 split liberals and conservative kids according to my kid. Most are pretty centrist/moderate. They allow all viewpoints on campus. Every 4 years they hold the Mock Convention and it alternates to the non-incumbent party. So next election , it will be the Democratic mock Convention. For the last Dem mock convention, They brought in as speakers: Donna Brazile, Trevor Noah, Andrew Gillum, Jim Acosta, Patti Solis, Nadine Strossen, Symone Sanders, Joe Donnelly plus others.

My kids’ friends are more liberal than conservative. The college republicans do have a stronger presence on campus than most NE liberal SLACs. The faculty is mostly liberal leaning.

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Anonymous wrote:Would a liberal be welcome at W&L?

PP here. There is about a 50/50 split liberals and conservative kids according to my kid. Most are pretty centrist/moderate. They allow all viewpoints on campus. Every 4 years they hold the Mock Convention and it alternates to the non-incumbent party. So next election , it will be the Democratic mock Convention. For the last Dem mock convention, They brought in as speakers: Donna Brazile, Trevor Noah, Andrew Gillum, Jim Acosta, Patti Solis, Nadine Strossen, Symone Sanders, Joe Donnelly plus others.

My kids’ friends are more liberal than conservative. The college republicans do have a stronger presence on campus than most NE liberal SLACs. The faculty is mostly liberal leaning.

Thank you. Are the conservatives MAGA?

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Anonymous wrote:If you are in the top 1% and live in the south you know W&L. Otherwise you are not W&L’s target market. IYKYK

This is all you need to know about W&L. Full of smart, rich, accomplished and interesting kids from the best families in the South. A great fit for kids who want to be happy and successful. A poor fit for kids who think they'll find anything of value at Bryn Mawr or Oberlin.

Could a non-white family be considered best?

Yes

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Anonymous wrote:If you are in the top 1% and live in the south you know W&L. Otherwise you are not W&L’s target market. IYKYK

This is all you need to know about W&L. Full of smart, rich, accomplished and interesting kids from the best families in the South. A great fit for kids who want to be happy and successful. A poor fit for kids who think they'll find anything of value at Bryn Mawr or Oberlin.

Could a non-white family be considered best?

Yes

How are you defining best?

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Anonymous wrote:It had the weirdest vibe of all the schools we toured. And we have toured many!

yes there are always the “normal” schools like oberlin columbia and wesleyan for folks like you!

Name another college with dead confederates buried on the grounds. I’ll wait.

Edmund "Kirby" Smith is buried on campus at The University of the South in Sewanee, Tennessee. Not as smart as you thought you were, are you? Now run along.

So are you and pp arguing this is a positive e or negative?

I mean they are in the South. WTH do you expect ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From what I can glean -
There is the competitive Johnson scholarship, which 10% of each incoming class receives. But for everyone else, it is expensive, for us significantly more expensive than other schools DC is considering. How do any middle class students go to this school? It seems they don’t want them, though there are some geographical diversity scholarships for kids from some other states.
Is it worth it for a middle class family to stretch to send their kid there?

They don't. IT's $95,670 a year and that doesn't include participation in the greek system which 78-80% of W&L students participate in.

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Anonymous wrote:PP, why do you assume OP is a VA resident with in-state options there to consider for a lower cost? So many posters here make that assumption over and over again and it drives me crazy. Lots of us here are in MD and DC.

+10. The only VA schools I would consider paying OOS tuition for are UVA and W&M.

That’s odd because VT is ranked better than W&M.

You really should look beyond or at least more carefully at US News rankings. W&M has traditionally been ranked much higher than VT until US News changed the criteria (removed student/teacher ratio, added first-gen numbers). I am not saying the criteria was better before or now, but it is different. If you want to compare something consistent: look at the test scores at the schools and look at incoming freshman GPAs. W&M is far above VT and, in fact, very close to UVA.

Test scores are meaningless at TO colleges. Try again

Utterly false for non-URM and non-hooked.

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Anonymous wrote:If you are in the top 1% and live in the south you know W&L. Otherwise you are not W&L’s target market. IYKYK

This is all you need to know about W&L. Full of smart, rich, accomplished and interesting kids from the best families in the South. A great fit for kids who want to be happy and successful. A poor fit for kids who think they'll find anything of value at Bryn Mawr or Oberlin.

Could a non-white family be considered best?

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Of course, but W&L is only 4.96% Black, so that should be considered.

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Anonymous wrote:If you are in the top 1% and live in the south you know W&L. Otherwise you are not W&L’s target market. IYKYK

This is all you need to know about W&L. Full of smart, rich, accomplished and interesting kids from the best families in the South. A great fit for kids who want to be happy and successful. A poor fit for kids who think they'll find anything of value at Bryn Mawr or Oberlin.

Could a non-white family be considered best?

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Of course, but W&L is only 4.96% Black, so that should be considered.

Why is W&L struggling to enroll Black students? Does Robert E Lee’s crypt have anything to do with that?