Common app essay and identity

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:this makes zero sense to me.

Stephen millier's minions are not reading essays or looking at activities sections.

They are simple minded.

They are interested in seeing
White - avg GPA. avg SAT
Black - avg GPA .. avg SAT

and if the black admits have SATs lower than whites, they'll say it's anti-white somehow.

colleges will LOVE kids who signal black or hispanic race in essay or affinity membership AND deliver a 1530.

that's my feeling.

Mine did with a 1500.

Trump can kick rocks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, it is odd and confusing. My son has read his friends essays from this past cycle (class of 2025) and their essays talked very openly about their race and ethnicity. These kids are at Ivies - so it was definitely ok last year to talk about your race. I'm also on Application Nation, and Sara Harberson is dead set against it, which makes me wonder if I'm missing something.

DC also read class 29 friends essay, can confirm race is the main theme in the main essay, and in at Ivies.
AN's advice is very confusing. In what context she said that?
It didn't sound rational at all.
Did she have insider information?
Did she talk to her AO friends?

Huh. Every kid I know that is at an Ivy from last year- including my own, is white.

Are all these kids minorities—I find this fishy—like posters are trying to allude Trump is right.

Exactly!!! And who is reading each other’s essays??? Two sons through the process and they never read a friend’s essay or shared theirs.

My daughter and her friends (public school) are all reading and giving advice on each other’s essays.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this makes zero sense to me.

Stephen millier's minions are not reading essays or looking at activities sections.

They are simple minded.

They are interested in seeing
White - avg GPA. avg SAT
Black - avg GPA .. avg SAT

and if the black admits have SATs lower than whites, they'll say it's anti-white somehow.

colleges will LOVE kids who signal black or hispanic race in essay or affinity membership AND deliver a 1530.

that's my feeling.

Mine did with a 1500.

Trump can kick rocks.

Or maybe they will love kids who are Asian or White this year with slightly lower stats to show all groups have a similar distribution.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this makes zero sense to me.

Stephen millier's minions are not reading essays or looking at activities sections.

They are simple minded.

They are interested in seeing
White - avg GPA. avg SAT
Black - avg GPA .. avg SAT

and if the black admits have SATs lower than whites, they'll say it's anti-white somehow.

colleges will LOVE kids who signal black or hispanic race in essay or affinity membership AND deliver a 1530.

that's my feeling.

Mine did with a 1500.

Trump can kick rocks.

last year. world is different this year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this makes zero sense to me.

Stephen millier's minions are not reading essays or looking at activities sections.

They are simple minded.

They are interested in seeing
White - avg GPA. avg SAT
Black - avg GPA .. avg SAT

and if the black admits have SATs lower than whites, they'll say it's anti-white somehow.

colleges will LOVE kids who signal black or hispanic race in essay or affinity membership AND deliver a 1530.

that's my feeling.

Mine did with a 1500.

Trump can kick rocks.

Or maybe they will love kids who are Asian or White this year with slightly lower stats to show all groups have a similar distribution.

this is a distinct possibility as well, given holistic admissions. its not about the stats after a certain point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this makes zero sense to me.

Stephen millier's minions are not reading essays or looking at activities sections.

They are simple minded.

They are interested in seeing
White - avg GPA. avg SAT
Black - avg GPA .. avg SAT

and if the black admits have SATs lower than whites, they'll say it's anti-white somehow.

colleges will LOVE kids who signal black or hispanic race in essay or affinity membership AND deliver a 1530.

that's my feeling.

Mine did with a 1500.

Trump can kick rocks.

Or maybe they will love kids who are Asian or White this year with slightly lower stats to show all groups have a similar distribution.

And rejecting 1580+ Asian kids?

Gosh, can you have some common sense?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this makes zero sense to me.

Stephen millier's minions are not reading essays or looking at activities sections.

They are simple minded.

They are interested in seeing
White - avg GPA. avg SAT
Black - avg GPA .. avg SAT

and if the black admits have SATs lower than whites, they'll say it's anti-white somehow.

colleges will LOVE kids who signal black or hispanic race in essay or affinity membership AND deliver a 1530.

that's my feeling.

Mine did with a 1500.

Trump can kick rocks.

Or maybe they will love kids who are Asian or White this year with slightly lower stats to show all groups have a similar distribution.

And rejecting 1580+ Asian kids?

Gosh, can you have some common sense?

The highest score doesn't get the prize though. Wy haven't you learned that yet?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this makes zero sense to me.

Stephen millier's minions are not reading essays or looking at activities sections.

They are simple minded.

They are interested in seeing
White - avg GPA. avg SAT
Black - avg GPA .. avg SAT

and if the black admits have SATs lower than whites, they'll say it's anti-white somehow.

colleges will LOVE kids who signal black or hispanic race in essay or affinity membership AND deliver a 1530.

that's my feeling.

Mine did with a 1500.

Trump can kick rocks.

Or maybe they will love kids who are Asian or White this year with slightly lower stats to show all groups have a similar distribution.

And rejecting 1580+ Asian kids?

Gosh, can you have some common sense?

If they are committed to holistic admissions then this is the only way ...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, it is odd and confusing. My son has read his friends essays from this past cycle (class of 2025) and their essays talked very openly about their race and ethnicity. These kids are at Ivies - so it was definitely ok last year to talk about your race. I'm also on Application Nation, and Sara Harberson is dead set against it, which makes me wonder if I'm missing something.

DC also read class 29 friends essay, can confirm race is the main theme in the main essay, and in at Ivies.
AN's advice is very confusing. In what context she said that?
It didn't sound rational at all.
Did she have insider information?
Did she talk to her AO friends?

Huh. Every kid I know that is at an Ivy from last year- including my own, is white.

Are all these kids minorities—I find this fishy—like posters are trying to allude Trump is right.

Exactly!!! And who is reading each other’s essays??? Two sons through the process and they never read a friend’s essay or shared theirs.

My daughter and her friends (public school) are all reading and giving advice on each other’s essays.

So, my kid is friends with students who graduated a year or two ahead of him. They get into Brown (or other top school), and he asks them, hey can I read your essays. It's quite simple.. lol.

Also, about 50% of kids I know at Ivies are Asian, but I'm from a big city with diversity.

[Anonymous]

My cousin's kid got the magic 1500 after thousands of dollars of prep classes. Dropped out after first year.

I am NOT impressed by high scores from kids whose parents have bulldozed a clear path for them.

Schools have stats on who drops out. There are a surprising number of "high stats" kids who aren't actually ready for college.

Give me a 1400 from a poor zip code any day. I KNOW that kid did it on their own

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My cousin's kid got the magic 1500 after thousands of dollars of prep classes. Dropped out after first year.

I am NOT impressed by high scores from kids whose parents have bulldozed a clear path for them.

Schools have stats on who drops out. There are a surprising number of "high stats" kids who aren't actually ready for college.

Give me a 1400 from a poor zip code any day. I KNOW that kid did it on their own

You are spot on here.

I mentioned this before on here. A T10 AO I'm acquainted with explained something to me once (in a non-professional setting): they look for markers of educational excellence in the family unit (where older siblings go to college, where parents went to college/grad school and profession) as it tells them the family's commitment to education, career success and ensuring the kid has what they need to survive and thrive.

The school would rather not have to look out for everyone (they already are for the FGLI) and is looking for markers of success. It's from the family.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this makes zero sense to me.

Stephen millier's minions are not reading essays or looking at activities sections.

They are simple minded.

They are interested in seeing
White - avg GPA. avg SAT
Black - avg GPA .. avg SAT

and if the black admits have SATs lower than whites, they'll say it's anti-white somehow.

colleges will LOVE kids who signal black or hispanic race in essay or affinity membership AND deliver a 1530.

that's my feeling.

Mine did with a 1500.

Trump can kick rocks.

Or maybe they will love kids who are Asian or White this year with slightly lower stats to show all groups have a similar distribution.

And rejecting 1580+ Asian kids?

Gosh, can you have some common sense?

The highest score doesn't get the prize though. Wy haven't you learned that yet?

Insanely naive. You really don't think they will scrutinize rejected pool to see who got rejected and what race.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this makes zero sense to me.

Stephen millier's minions are not reading essays or looking at activities sections.

They are simple minded.

They are interested in seeing
White - avg GPA. avg SAT
Black - avg GPA .. avg SAT

and if the black admits have SATs lower than whites, they'll say it's anti-white somehow.

colleges will LOVE kids who signal black or hispanic race in essay or affinity membership AND deliver a 1530.

that's my feeling.

Mine did with a 1500.

Trump can kick rocks.

Or maybe they will love kids who are Asian or White this year with slightly lower stats to show all groups have a similar distribution.

And rejecting 1580+ Asian kids?

Gosh, can you have some common sense?

The highest score doesn't get the prize though. Wy haven't you learned that yet?

Insanely naive. You really don't think they will scrutinize rejected pool to see who got rejected and what race.

You will insist they got rejected because of their race. Nothing else matters. They ask for essays and letters of recommendation and extra curricular all just to mask their insidious machinations, right? A kid gets rejected because of their race and not because 47 classmates applied to the same Ivy with the same rigor, same GPA, and same test scores. That Ivy admits one of the same race and rejects all of the others because of... their race.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this makes zero sense to me.

Stephen millier's minions are not reading essays or looking at activities sections.

They are simple minded.

They are interested in seeing
White - avg GPA. avg SAT
Black - avg GPA .. avg SAT

and if the black admits have SATs lower than whites, they'll say it's anti-white somehow.

colleges will LOVE kids who signal black or hispanic race in essay or affinity membership AND deliver a 1530.

that's my feeling.

Mine did with a 1500.

Trump can kick rocks.

Or maybe they will love kids who are Asian or White this year with slightly lower stats to show all groups have a similar distribution.

And rejecting 1580+ Asian kids?

Gosh, can you have some common sense?

The highest score doesn't get the prize though. Wy haven't you learned that yet?

Insanely naive. You really don't think they will scrutinize rejected pool to see who got rejected and what race.

But if they admit lower scoring white and asian kids, who cares if the rejected pool is ..... wait for it.... white and asian????
here's the thing:
they don't want "bots". Ask your kid what that means. They actually try and filter for that characteristic. Sadly, most prevalent in east asian and south asian males (but also some females). A growing number of white males in STEM fields, too have "bot" attributes.

So - make your application as non-bot-like as possible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this makes zero sense to me.

Stephen millier's minions are not reading essays or looking at activities sections.

They are simple minded.

They are interested in seeing
White - avg GPA. avg SAT
Black - avg GPA .. avg SAT

and if the black admits have SATs lower than whites, they'll say it's anti-white somehow.

colleges will LOVE kids who signal black or hispanic race in essay or affinity membership AND deliver a 1530.

that's my feeling.

Mine did with a 1500.

Trump can kick rocks.

Or maybe they will love kids who are Asian or White this year with slightly lower stats to show all groups have a similar distribution.

And rejecting 1580+ Asian kids?

Gosh, can you have some common sense?

The highest score doesn't get the prize though. Wy haven't you learned that yet?

Insanely naive. You really don't think they will scrutinize rejected pool to see who got rejected and what race.

But if they admit lower scoring white and asian kids, who cares if the rejected pool is ..... wait for it.... white and asian????
here's the thing:
they don't want "bots". Ask your kid what that means. They actually try and filter for that characteristic. Sadly, most prevalent in east asian and south asian males (but also some females). A growing number of white males in STEM fields, too have "bot" attributes.

So - make your application as non-bot-like as possible.

You are getting this wrong. Your suggestion is a good one, but this is not what we are talking about here.

The orange man will only look at the big picture. They will look at the rejection pool, they will ask why certain race with high stats got rejected all the time. They will say this is a proxy for race-based admission. You really don't see that? Really really safe practice?