Can someone give me the number to call to report boundary fraud?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The more bizarre conclusion that driving middle-class families out of DC because they don't have acceptable neighborhood schools is preferable to having them stay. We've been in Ward 6 for 20 years. In that time, at least half of the families with school-age kids we've known have hit the road for NW or the burbs partly because they were fed up with issues relating to access to good DCPS and DCPCS schools. I'd much rather have a neighborhood who's been active in Hill life for years stick around by funding an IB-address for an elementary school than run off to Fairfax. These are the last people I'd report.

It's too easy to judge. We know multiple East Asian immigrant families on CH who went for Brent by fudging an address, after discovering that it was the only public elementary school in Ward 6 with more than a handful of Asian students in the entire school. Are you at that situation as an Asian parent? Get a life.

People willing to commit fraud and pull one over on their neighbors are not actually the kind of people who make good neighbors in the end. Why are they so much better than the rest of us who have to make the tough decisions and play by the rules?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The more bizarre conclusion that driving middle-class families out of DC because they don't have acceptable neighborhood schools is preferable to having them stay. We've been in Ward 6 for 20 years. In that time, at least half of the families with school-age kids we've known have hit the road for NW or the burbs partly because they were fed up with issues relating to access to good DCPS and DCPCS schools. I'd much rather have a neighborhood who's been active in Hill life for years stick around by funding an IB-address for an elementary school than run off to Fairfax. These are the last people I'd report.

It's too easy to judge. We know multiple East Asian immigrant families on CH who went for Brent by fudging an address, after discovering that it was the only public elementary school in Ward 6 with more than a handful of Asian students in the entire school. Are you at that situation as an Asian parent? Get a life.

People willing to commit fraud and pull one over on their neighbors are not actually the kind of people who make good neighbors in the end. Why are they so much better than the rest of us who have to make the tough decisions and play by the rules?

I am Asian, if I really feel like my kids must have a decent amount of other Asians at the school I can move. This is not a good excuse, no one cares.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The more bizarre conclusion that driving middle-class families out of DC because they don't have acceptable neighborhood schools is preferable to having them stay. We've been in Ward 6 for 20 years. In that time, at least half of the families with school-age kids we've known have hit the road for NW or the burbs partly because they were fed up with issues relating to access to good DCPS and DCPCS schools. I'd much rather have a neighborhood who's been active in Hill life for years stick around by funding an IB-address for an elementary school than run off to Fairfax. These are the last people I'd report.

It's too easy to judge. We know multiple East Asian immigrant families on CH who went for Brent by fudging an address, after discovering that it was the only public elementary school in Ward 6 with more than a handful of Asian students in the entire school. Are you at that situation as an Asian parent? Get a life.

Agree with this poster. DCPS elementary schools even aren't that great. Nobody should get keyed up about alleged boundary fraud. If you own in-boundary real estate that works for a school for whatever reasons, use it. It's your property. As for J-R, if you have the paperwork to survive an investigation by DCPS, go for it. That's it, that's all.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The more bizarre conclusion that driving middle-class families out of DC because they don't have acceptable neighborhood schools is preferable to having them stay. We've been in Ward 6 for 20 years. In that time, at least half of the families with school-age kids we've known have hit the road for NW or the burbs partly because they were fed up with issues relating to access to good DCPS and DCPCS schools. I'd much rather have a neighborhood who's been active in Hill life for years stick around by funding an IB-address for an elementary school than run off to Fairfax. These are the last people I'd report.

It's too easy to judge. We know multiple East Asian immigrant families on CH who went for Brent by fudging an address, after discovering that it was the only public elementary school in Ward 6 with more than a handful of Asian students in the entire school. Are you at that situation as an Asian parent? Get a life.

People willing to commit fraud and pull one over on their neighbors are not actually the kind of people who make good neighbors in the end. Why are they so much better than the rest of us who have to make the tough decisions and play by the rules?

I am Asian, if I really feel like my kids must have a decent amount of other Asians at the school I can move. This is not a good excuse, no one cares.

No one cares about what?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The more bizarre conclusion that driving middle-class families out of DC because they don't have acceptable neighborhood schools is preferable to having them stay. We've been in Ward 6 for 20 years. In that time, at least half of the families with school-age kids we've known have hit the road for NW or the burbs partly because they were fed up with issues relating to access to good DCPS and DCPCS schools. I'd much rather have a neighborhood who's been active in Hill life for years stick around by funding an IB-address for an elementary school than run off to Fairfax. These are the last people I'd report.

It's too easy to judge. We know multiple East Asian immigrant families on CH who went for Brent by fudging an address, after discovering that it was the only public elementary school in Ward 6 with more than a handful of Asian students in the entire school. Are you at that situation as an Asian parent? Get a life.

I live in Ward 6 and we might "flee" due to lack of access to acceptable school options, and part of the reason why is that it is not okay with me that the ONLY way to access an acceptable school is to cheat. WTH kind of system is that? We are probably exactly the kind of family you want to have at your schools (involved parents, great kids, emphasize academics but not competitive at all costs, good neighbors) and I'm just deeply uncomfortable with the idea that I'd be encouraged to lie or bend rules to benefit my kids.

I'm not dying to move to the suburbs or NW but I also don't want to live in this weird gray area where we have to game the system to make it work for our kids. We are increasingly talking about leaving the DC area altogether because of stuff like this. It makes me feel like I just do not share values with my neighbors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here… really, y’all? I assume all of you commit boundary fraud yourselves then? The public school situation in DC is really hard and my family follows the rules and so many others do too, and sometimes this means going to school that might not be the best ones, just because everyone can’t just help themselves to whatever they want in life can they? If we live in a society that chooses to just let people break rules for their own selfish benefit then what’s the point of any rules?

Sorry everyone’s jumping on you OP. I mean these people clearly did just help themselves to whatever, and part of the risk they assumed was that I might be a temporary situation because they might be turned in. No one forced them to cheat. Also unfair to everyone else who made sacrifices to buy a house in the school district that was right for them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP here… really, y’all? I assume all of you commit boundary fraud yourselves then? The public school situation in DC is really hard and my family follows the rules and so many others do too, and sometimes this means going to school that might not be the best ones, just because everyone can’t just help themselves to whatever they want in life can they? If we live in a society that chooses to just let people break rules for their own selfish benefit then what’s the point of any rules?

Sorry everyone’s jumping on you OP. I mean these people clearly did just help themselves to whatever, and part of the risk they assumed was that I might be a temporary situation because they might be turned in. No one forced them to cheat. Also unfair to everyone else who made sacrifices to buy a house in the school district that was right for them.

Also unfair to the people who can't afford houses IB for J-R but did not decide to lie or cheat to get access to the school anyway.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Whenever this type of thread comes up, most reasonable people express sympathy for the kids involved and prefer to place their best interests above that of the scheming parents.
And then the inevitable retort on the part of the OP and co is that all these posters must be immoral and probably commit fraud themselves. This is so predictable.

OP, I really hope that someone calls you out when you do something the least bit wrong. Busybodies like you don't even realize that you hold others to standards that you might not hold for yourself. No one is perfect. Everyone breaks the rules in different ways. You are the type of person who will always find excuses for your own rule-breaking, but never excuse it in others.

So basically you endorse people breaking rules for their own benefit

newsflash to the boundary cheats: you can cheat, you can probably get away with it, but you cannot stop people from judging you as a lying cheat. And some will report you. FAFO.

PP you replied to. As this thread shows (and multiple ones before it), most people don't judge that hard. It's only you and a very small minority who can muster up enough hate. Morally, I think you are in the wrong to be so punitive. There are rules and rules. Some rules aren't that important. Some rules are extremely important. Being rigid and inflexible and not knowing which is which is bad. Not good. And again, it's not like you have some sort of moral high ground. I'm sure that when you skirt the rules, you tell yourself you have very good reasons to do so, and absolve yourself any blame!

This actually is an important rule. And if you break the rule (because you narcissistically believe you are entitled to lie to get what everyone else goes through great efforts to get legally) then you sign up for the consequences. You don’t get to be a cheater and also castigate people for being immoral for calling you out on your cheating.

+1 agree. Well put.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP here… really, y’all? I assume all of you commit boundary fraud yourselves then? The public school situation in DC is really hard and my family follows the rules and so many others do too, and sometimes this means going to school that might not be the best ones, just because everyone can’t just help themselves to whatever they want in life can they? If we live in a society that chooses to just let people break rules for their own selfish benefit then what’s the point of any rules?

Sorry everyone’s jumping on you OP. I mean these people clearly did just help themselves to whatever, and part of the risk they assumed was that I might be a temporary situation because they might be turned in. No one forced them to cheat. Also unfair to everyone else who made sacrifices to buy a house in the school district that was right for them.

Right, right, terribly unfair. So what's to be done? You could always vote with your feet to a school district where nobody needs to fudge in on residency to stick around because schools are pretty good across the board. Sounds like the perfect place for you.

You could even get away from the holier than the aggressive than thou nutters on this thread!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here… really, y’all? I assume all of you commit boundary fraud yourselves then? The public school situation in DC is really hard and my family follows the rules and so many others do too, and sometimes this means going to school that might not be the best ones, just because everyone can’t just help themselves to whatever they want in life can they? If we live in a society that chooses to just let people break rules for their own selfish benefit then what’s the point of any rules?

Sorry everyone’s jumping on you OP. I mean these people clearly did just help themselves to whatever, and part of the risk they assumed was that I might be a temporary situation because they might be turned in. No one forced them to cheat. Also unfair to everyone else who made sacrifices to buy a house in the school district that was right for them.

Right, right, terribly unfair. So what's to be done? You could always vote with your feet to a school district where nobody needs to fudge in on residency to stick around because schools are pretty good across the board. Sounds like the perfect place for you.

You could even get away from the holier than the aggressive than thou nutters on this thread!

So what's to be done? Report them. That's exactly what OP is suggesting.

[Anonymous]

I’m a teacher who reported a family living in Maryland to three different levels of folks. Nothing happened.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The more bizarre conclusion that driving middle-class families out of DC because they don't have acceptable neighborhood schools is preferable to having them stay. We've been in Ward 6 for 20 years. In that time, at least half of the families with school-age kids we've known have hit the road for NW or the burbs partly because they were fed up with issues relating to access to good DCPS and DCPCS schools. I'd much rather have a neighborhood who's been active in Hill life for years stick around by funding an IB-address for an elementary school than run off to Fairfax. These are the last people I'd report.

It's too easy to judge. We know multiple East Asian immigrant families on CH who went for Brent by fudging an address, after discovering that it was the only public elementary school in Ward 6 with more than a handful of Asian students in the entire school. Are you at that situation as an Asian parent? Get a life.

These good neighbors then crowd the schools in other neighborhoods and don’t contribute to the one in their own neighborhood.

I agree it’s not a good situation but plenty of people don’t lie to get around it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP here... I'm finding this all highly entertaining that I've gotten so many of you so worked up yet you're worried about the energy I'm wasting on this. To the person saving their MySchoolDC emails worried about "people like me"... my child also attends an out-of-boundary school "in the fancy part of town" - a spot that earned through the lottery as well. I am well aware that there are perfectly legitimate ways to attend a school outside of your boundary school. What I didn't like most about how this family handled things was the child and family walked around loudly telling everyone that they won a lottery spot to Jackson Reed, as if the data on whether that has happened at that school isn't publicly available to all. I know plenty of folks who have gamed the system, never thinking that I needed to report a thing, as I don't have the holier-than-thou attitude that you all think I do. It was this particular situation and this family's boldness that made me want to speak up. And to an early poster who asked if I want them to see this... well, I highly doubt they're on this forum, but yes I would definitely love them to know that they've spent years telling the same boldface lie but they didn't fool everyone.

OP, do you care that your actions will harm a child who has made friends and joined activities and built relationships at this school? They may be needlessly bold and who knows whether they are telling the truth, but you lack empathy for a child! You should feel ashamed. I don’t think I could live with my own moral compass if I took a direct and needless action to emotionally (or physically of course) harm a child.

Why would OP be ashamed? It’s the parents that put the child in this situation. Personally I would not report them barring some extreme circumstance, but the parents are the ones who created the risk and harm.

Someone else’s wrong does not absolve OP of his/her own active choices potentially causing harm to a child. I say potentially bc it’s unclear whether any fraud has been committed at all or if anything will happen after OP’s report.

[Anonymous]

This thread has really gone off the rails.

Come on, OP asked who to call about boundary fraud at J-R. That discussion was interesting, not this seriously petty one.

[Anonymous]

We're from Korea. Our kids are in the early childhood grades. You guys are wrong, their aren't a lot of E Asian families any of the DCPS CH elementary schools. We had the rounds and asked. But there are more than 4 or 5 years ago, yea.

Yes, the thread should return to J-R issues. The petty game to out Capitol Hill address cheaters people dislike doesn't interest us.