Can someone give me the number to call to report boundary fraud?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Whenever this type of thread comes up, most reasonable people express sympathy for the kids involved and prefer to place their best interests above that of the scheming parents.
And then the inevitable retort on the part of the OP and co is that all these posters must be immoral and probably commit fraud themselves. This is so predictable.

OP, I really hope that someone calls you out when you do something the least bit wrong. Busybodies like you don't even realize that you hold others to standards that you might not hold for yourself. No one is perfect. Everyone breaks the rules in different ways. You are the type of person who will always find excuses for your own rule-breaking, but never excuse it in others.

So basically you endorse people breaking rules for their own benefit

newsflash to the boundary cheats: you can cheat, you can probably get away with it, but you cannot stop people from judging you as a lying cheat. And some will report you. FAFO.

PP you replied to. As this thread shows (and multiple ones before it), most people don't judge that hard. It's only you and a very small minority who can muster up enough hate. Morally, I think you are in the wrong to be so punitive. There are rules and rules. Some rules aren't that important. Some rules are extremely important. Being rigid and inflexible and not knowing which is which is bad. Not good. And again, it's not like you have some sort of moral high ground. I'm sure that when you skirt the rules, you tell yourself you have very good reasons to do so, and absolve yourself any blame!

This actually is an important rule. And if you break the rule (because you narcissistically believe you are entitled to lie to get what everyone else goes through great efforts to get legally) then you sign up for the consequences. You don’t get to be a cheater and also castigate people for being immoral for calling you out on your cheating.

That's debatable. In practice, it's not important because most people follow the rule. The few people who don't, get the side-eye and there's enough threats in the system to discourage a larger number of people from doing shady stuff. This allows the majority to stay compassionate and not report families who might be breaking the rule.

It's critical to understand how compassion only works in systems that generally work as intended and have a little wiggle room for a few rule-breakers. Most systems are able to accommodate such situations. Boundaries in DCPS are generally followed. DCPS is NOT academically great overall, but that's not because a few families break the rules to maneuver their way to the "good" schools. It's because DC has a preponderance of low-income families who struggle with school attendance and other socio-economic problems like family stability, gang associations and general apathy towards education, and those impacts scores and learning atmospheres in certain schools.

How do you know what portion of people follow the rule? What "threats" are there when nothing is done about it? Why do you feel entitled to judge what is the 'correct' moral approach? Is saying and doing nothing putting the interests of the cheating children ahead of distributed harm? Or can you not see that there are negative outcomes for others?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If the kid lives in DC and the school has approved their residency paperwork in some capacity, there is basically no remedy.

If the kid lives OUTSIDE DC, https://dc-osse-oer.i-sight.com/portal

Thank you for answering and not being a dick like everyone else.

To the others, the only number I could find of Google was for residency fraud, not boundary fraud. I thought I’d seen a number posted on here in the past so when I couldn’t find an answer on my own I thought I’d ask. Sorry to disappoint and imply I’m some weirdo who gets off on asking a question for reasons other than getting an answer. I’ve been reading this board for 13+ years and always thought most people didn’t support boundary fraud. Guess morals on this have gone the same way as the rest of the morals on this country.

The reason you only found a number for residency fraud is that "boundary fraud" in the context of DCPS exists solely on DCUM and nowhere else.

This is the correct response. OP, this is a colossal waste of your time. JR doesn’t care and is mot going to do anything about this, regardless of what you think or how you feel.

if JR doesn’t care, why were they doing home visits last summer?

It’s true that lying about living in a different DC zone is different from living in MD. But lying about your address on school enrollment forms is a type of fraud regardless.

Every DCPS offers home visits to verify DC residency, they DO NOT care about JR boundaries.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the kid lives in DC and the school has approved their residency paperwork in some capacity, there is basically no remedy.

If the kid lives OUTSIDE DC, https://dc-osse-oer.i-sight.com/portal

Thank you for answering and not being a dick like everyone else.

To the others, the only number I could find of Google was for residency fraud, not boundary fraud. I thought I’d seen a number posted on here in the past so when I couldn’t find an answer on my own I thought I’d ask. Sorry to disappoint and imply I’m some weirdo who gets off on asking a question for reasons other than getting an answer. I’ve been reading this board for 13+ years and always thought most people didn’t support boundary fraud. Guess morals on this have gone the same way as the rest of the morals on this country.

The reason you only found a number for residency fraud is that "boundary fraud" in the context of DCPS exists solely on DCUM and nowhere else.

This is the correct response. OP, this is a colossal waste of your time. JR doesn’t care and is mot going to do anything about this, regardless of what you think or how you feel.

if JR doesn’t care, why were they doing home visits last summer?

It’s true that lying about living in a different DC zone is different from living in MD. But lying about your address on school enrollment forms is a type of fraud regardless.

Every DCPS offers home visits to verify DC residency, they DO NOT care about JR boundaries.

Adding, people are not lying about their address. Again, the school does not care where you live as long as it’s DC. That’s why there is no number to call. Like PP says, this myth of boundary fraud only exists on dcurban. Maybe you can call unto the Goddess of Non-Existant Boundary Fraud for further elightenment.

[Anonymous]

OK, they DO NOT CARE. So what are you going to do about it as a stakeholder? Come here fussing about vacation rentals and leave things at that? Why bother?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the kid lives in DC and the school has approved their residency paperwork in some capacity, there is basically no remedy.

If the kid lives OUTSIDE DC, https://dc-osse-oer.i-sight.com/portal

Thank you for answering and not being a dick like everyone else.

To the others, the only number I could find of Google was for residency fraud, not boundary fraud. I thought I’d seen a number posted on here in the past so when I couldn’t find an answer on my own I thought I’d ask. Sorry to disappoint and imply I’m some weirdo who gets off on asking a question for reasons other than getting an answer. I’ve been reading this board for 13+ years and always thought most people didn’t support boundary fraud. Guess morals on this have gone the same way as the rest of the morals on this country.

The reason you only found a number for residency fraud is that "boundary fraud" in the context of DCPS exists solely on DCUM and nowhere else.

This is the correct response. OP, this is a colossal waste of your time. JR doesn’t care and is mot going to do anything about this, regardless of what you think or how you feel.

if JR doesn’t care, why were they doing home visits last summer?

It’s true that lying about living in a different DC zone is different from living in MD. But lying about your address on school enrollment forms is a type of fraud regardless.

Every DCPS offers home visits to verify DC residency, they DO NOT care about JR boundaries.

Adding, people are not lying about their address. Again, the school does not care where you live as long as it’s DC. That’s why there is no number to call. Like PP says, this myth of boundary fraud only exists on dcurban. Maybe you can call unto the Goddess of Non-Existant Boundary Fraud for further elightenment.

So, no matter where you live in DC, if you want to send your kid to JR, do it! No one cares!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the kid lives in DC and the school has approved their residency paperwork in some capacity, there is basically no remedy.

If the kid lives OUTSIDE DC, https://dc-osse-oer.i-sight.com/portal

Thank you for answering and not being a dick like everyone else.

To the others, the only number I could find of Google was for residency fraud, not boundary fraud. I thought I’d seen a number posted on here in the past so when I couldn’t find an answer on my own I thought I’d ask. Sorry to disappoint and imply I’m some weirdo who gets off on asking a question for reasons other than getting an answer. I’ve been reading this board for 13+ years and always thought most people didn’t support boundary fraud. Guess morals on this have gone the same way as the rest of the morals on this country.

The reason you only found a number for residency fraud is that "boundary fraud" in the context of DCPS exists solely on DCUM and nowhere else.

This is the correct response. OP, this is a colossal waste of your time. JR doesn’t care and is mot going to do anything about this, regardless of what you think or how you feel.

if JR doesn’t care, why were they doing home visits last summer?

It’s true that lying about living in a different DC zone is different from living in MD. But lying about your address on school enrollment forms is a type of fraud regardless.

Every DCPS offers home visits to verify DC residency, they DO NOT care about JR boundaries.

Adding, people are not lying about their address. Again, the school does not care where you live as long as it’s DC. That’s why there is no number to call. Like PP says, this myth of boundary fraud only exists on dcurban. Maybe you can call unto the Goddess of Non-Existant Boundary Fraud for further elightenment.

So, no matter where you live in DC, if you want to send your kid to JR, do it! No one cares!

Not after they are enrolled the first time. And that happens when you live in boundary or enrolling from a feeder school.

Spend your time on the feeder issue if you continue to allow this issue to gnaw at you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whenever this type of thread comes up, most reasonable people express sympathy for the kids involved and prefer to place their best interests above that of the scheming parents.
And then the inevitable retort on the part of the OP and co is that all these posters must be immoral and probably commit fraud themselves. This is so predictable.

OP, I really hope that someone calls you out when you do something the least bit wrong. Busybodies like you don't even realize that you hold others to standards that you might not hold for yourself. No one is perfect. Everyone breaks the rules in different ways. You are the type of person who will always find excuses for your own rule-breaking, but never excuse it in others.

So basically you endorse people breaking rules for their own benefit

newsflash to the boundary cheats: you can cheat, you can probably get away with it, but you cannot stop people from judging you as a lying cheat. And some will report you. FAFO.

PP you replied to. As this thread shows (and multiple ones before it), most people don't judge that hard. It's only you and a very small minority who can muster up enough hate. Morally, I think you are in the wrong to be so punitive. There are rules and rules. Some rules aren't that important. Some rules are extremely important. Being rigid and inflexible and not knowing which is which is bad. Not good. And again, it's not like you have some sort of moral high ground. I'm sure that when you skirt the rules, you tell yourself you have very good reasons to do so, and absolve yourself any blame!

This actually is an important rule. And if you break the rule (because you narcissistically believe you are entitled to lie to get what everyone else goes through great efforts to get legally) then you sign up for the consequences. You don’t get to be a cheater and also castigate people for being immoral for calling you out on your cheating.

That's debatable. In practice, it's not important because most people follow the rule. The few people who don't, get the side-eye and there's enough threats in the system to discourage a larger number of people from doing shady stuff. This allows the majority to stay compassionate and not report families who might be breaking the rule.

It's critical to understand how compassion only works in systems that generally work as intended and have a little wiggle room for a few rule-breakers. Most systems are able to accommodate such situations. Boundaries in DCPS are generally followed. DCPS is NOT academically great overall, but that's not because a few families break the rules to maneuver their way to the "good" schools. It's because DC has a preponderance of low-income families who struggle with school attendance and other socio-economic problems like family stability, gang associations and general apathy towards education, and those impacts scores and learning atmospheres in certain schools.

How do you know what portion of people follow the rule? What "threats" are there when nothing is done about it? Why do you feel entitled to judge what is the 'correct' moral approach? Is saying and doing nothing putting the interests of the cheating children ahead of distributed harm? Or can you not see that there are negative outcomes for others?

Short answer. I've lived here a long time and I'm smarter than you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here... I'm finding this all highly entertaining that I've gotten so many of you so worked up yet you're worried about the energy I'm wasting on this. To the person saving their MySchoolDC emails worried about "people like me"... my child also attends an out-of-boundary school "in the fancy part of town" - a spot that earned through the lottery as well. I am well aware that there are perfectly legitimate ways to attend a school outside of your boundary school. What I didn't like most about how this family handled things was the child and family walked around loudly telling everyone that they won a lottery spot to Jackson Reed, as if the data on whether that has happened at that school isn't publicly available to all. I know plenty of folks who have gamed the system, never thinking that I needed to report a thing, as I don't have the holier-than-thou attitude that you all think I do. It was this particular situation and this family's boldness that made me want to speak up. And to an early poster who asked if I want them to see this... well, I highly doubt they're on this forum, but yes I would definitely love them to know that they've spent years telling the same boldface lie but they didn't fool everyone.

OP, no one “earns” a spot through the lottery

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Boundary Crusader and fans strike me as consumed w/jealousy that there are UMC families who can afford more than one residential property in DC. They're all worked about how a vacation rental can work as an in-boundary address or something, at least part of the time. Yawn. Come on, DCPS has infinitely bigger problems that aren't being addressed.

Nobody is jealous of you. You are still a fraud/cheater though.

You keep accusing people who disagree with you. You lose all credibility when you do that. You don't get to label people cheats just because you don't like their attitude, which is what you're doing here to this family. You don't know if they have as much right to be there as your family, so why post on DCUM and make all this fuss?

At this point, your insistence and name-calling makes me think you're mentally unwell.

Op could possibly be wrong about this family but the PP I was responding to was absolutely describing cheating/fraud (listing the residence of a non-domicile in enrollment paperwork).

It just kind of makes me laugh how cheaters get so mad when faced with the fact that they are, indeed, cheaters. if you don’t want to be called a cheater, don’t cheat.

Accusing people you don't know of cheating when you know nothing about them is insanity. This is what you are doing. No one is mad here except you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the kid lives in DC and the school has approved their residency paperwork in some capacity, there is basically no remedy.

If the kid lives OUTSIDE DC, https://dc-osse-oer.i-sight.com/portal

Thank you for answering and not being a dick like everyone else.

To the others, the only number I could find of Google was for residency fraud, not boundary fraud. I thought I’d seen a number posted on here in the past so when I couldn’t find an answer on my own I thought I’d ask. Sorry to disappoint and imply I’m some weirdo who gets off on asking a question for reasons other than getting an answer. I’ve been reading this board for 13+ years and always thought most people didn’t support boundary fraud. Guess morals on this have gone the same way as the rest of the morals on this country.

The reason you only found a number for residency fraud is that "boundary fraud" in the context of DCPS exists solely on DCUM and nowhere else.

This is the correct response. OP, this is a colossal waste of your time. JR doesn’t care and is mot going to do anything about this, regardless of what you think or how you feel.

if JR doesn’t care, why were they doing home visits last summer?

It’s true that lying about living in a different DC zone is different from living in MD. But lying about your address on school enrollment forms is a type of fraud regardless.

Every DCPS offers home visits to verify DC residency, they DO NOT care about JR boundaries.

Adding, people are not lying about their address. Again, the school does not care where you live as long as it’s DC. That’s why there is no number to call. Like PP says, this myth of boundary fraud only exists on dcurban. Maybe you can call unto the Goddess of Non-Existant Boundary Fraud for further elightenment.

No, people are lying about their address.

I live in Ward 6. My IB elementary is JO Wilson. I don't want my kid to go to JO Wilson, because they are in a swing space this year and it's in a bad location. I want my kid to go to Ludlow-Taylor, which is nearby but NOT our IB school.

If I go to L-T and attempt to enroll my child with my real address, they will tell me no, that's not within our boundary. In order to send my kid to L-T, I have to either apply via the lottery and win a spot (not super easy for a 1st grader) or I have to LIE about my address to claim I am IB.

[Anonymous]

Why not just call My School DC and ask? Surely they must audit this kind of thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whenever this type of thread comes up, most reasonable people express sympathy for the kids involved and prefer to place their best interests above that of the scheming parents.
And then the inevitable retort on the part of the OP and co is that all these posters must be immoral and probably commit fraud themselves. This is so predictable.

OP, I really hope that someone calls you out when you do something the least bit wrong. Busybodies like you don't even realize that you hold others to standards that you might not hold for yourself. No one is perfect. Everyone breaks the rules in different ways. You are the type of person who will always find excuses for your own rule-breaking, but never excuse it in others.

So basically you endorse people breaking rules for their own benefit

newsflash to the boundary cheats: you can cheat, you can probably get away with it, but you cannot stop people from judging you as a lying cheat. And some will report you. FAFO.

PP you replied to. As this thread shows (and multiple ones before it), most people don't judge that hard. It's only you and a very small minority who can muster up enough hate. Morally, I think you are in the wrong to be so punitive. There are rules and rules. Some rules aren't that important. Some rules are extremely important. Being rigid and inflexible and not knowing which is which is bad. Not good. And again, it's not like you have some sort of moral high ground. I'm sure that when you skirt the rules, you tell yourself you have very good reasons to do so, and absolve yourself any blame!

This actually is an important rule. And if you break the rule (because you narcissistically believe you are entitled to lie to get what everyone else goes through great efforts to get legally) then you sign up for the consequences. You don’t get to be a cheater and also castigate people for being immoral for calling you out on your cheating.

That's debatable. In practice, it's not important because most people follow the rule. The few people who don't, get the side-eye and there's enough threats in the system to discourage a larger number of people from doing shady stuff. This allows the majority to stay compassionate and not report families who might be breaking the rule.

It's critical to understand how compassion only works in systems that generally work as intended and have a little wiggle room for a few rule-breakers. Most systems are able to accommodate such situations. Boundaries in DCPS are generally followed. DCPS is NOT academically great overall, but that's not because a few families break the rules to maneuver their way to the "good" schools. It's because DC has a preponderance of low-income families who struggle with school attendance and other socio-economic problems like family stability, gang associations and general apathy towards education, and those impacts scores and learning atmospheres in certain schools.

That’s a truly bizarre conclusion. Rulebreakers who break a really important rule deserve our compassion because they are some of the few people breaking the rule? huh? If you told me this was a Ward 8 family fleeing violence ok. But that is not the picture I get. (especially from the PP who loves to say “you’re just jealous because we can afford to own a second property zoned for J-R.”)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the kid lives in DC and the school has approved their residency paperwork in some capacity, there is basically no remedy.

If the kid lives OUTSIDE DC, https://dc-osse-oer.i-sight.com/portal

Thank you for answering and not being a dick like everyone else.

To the others, the only number I could find of Google was for residency fraud, not boundary fraud. I thought I’d seen a number posted on here in the past so when I couldn’t find an answer on my own I thought I’d ask. Sorry to disappoint and imply I’m some weirdo who gets off on asking a question for reasons other than getting an answer. I’ve been reading this board for 13+ years and always thought most people didn’t support boundary fraud. Guess morals on this have gone the same way as the rest of the morals on this country.

The reason you only found a number for residency fraud is that "boundary fraud" in the context of DCPS exists solely on DCUM and nowhere else.

This is the correct response. OP, this is a colossal waste of your time. JR doesn’t care and is mot going to do anything about this, regardless of what you think or how you feel.

if JR doesn’t care, why were they doing home visits last summer?

It’s true that lying about living in a different DC zone is different from living in MD. But lying about your address on school enrollment forms is a type of fraud regardless.

Every DCPS offers home visits to verify DC residency, they DO NOT care about JR boundaries.

Adding, people are not lying about their address. Again, the school does not care where you live as long as it’s DC. That’s why there is no number to call. Like PP says, this myth of boundary fraud only exists on dcurban. Maybe you can call unto the Goddess of Non-Existant Boundary Fraud for further elightenment.

No, people are lying about their address.

I live in Ward 6. My IB elementary is JO Wilson. I don't want my kid to go to JO Wilson, because they are in a swing space this year and it's in a bad location. I want my kid to go to Ludlow-Taylor, which is nearby but NOT our IB school.

If I go to L-T and attempt to enroll my child with my real address, they will tell me no, that's not within our boundary. In order to send my kid to L-T, I have to either apply via the lottery and win a spot (not super easy for a 1st grader) or I have to LIE about my address to claim I am IB.

Nevermind, good luck.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the kid lives in DC and the school has approved their residency paperwork in some capacity, there is basically no remedy.

If the kid lives OUTSIDE DC, https://dc-osse-oer.i-sight.com/portal

Thank you for answering and not being a dick like everyone else.

To the others, the only number I could find of Google was for residency fraud, not boundary fraud. I thought I’d seen a number posted on here in the past so when I couldn’t find an answer on my own I thought I’d ask. Sorry to disappoint and imply I’m some weirdo who gets off on asking a question for reasons other than getting an answer. I’ve been reading this board for 13+ years and always thought most people didn’t support boundary fraud. Guess morals on this have gone the same way as the rest of the morals on this country.

The reason you only found a number for residency fraud is that "boundary fraud" in the context of DCPS exists solely on DCUM and nowhere else.

This is the correct response. OP, this is a colossal waste of your time. JR doesn’t care and is mot going to do anything about this, regardless of what you think or how you feel.

if JR doesn’t care, why were they doing home visits last summer?

It’s true that lying about living in a different DC zone is different from living in MD. But lying about your address on school enrollment forms is a type of fraud regardless.

Every DCPS offers home visits to verify DC residency, they DO NOT care about JR boundaries.

Adding, people are not lying about their address. Again, the school does not care where you live as long as it’s DC. That’s why there is no number to call. Like PP says, this myth of boundary fraud only exists on dcurban. Maybe you can call unto the Goddess of Non-Existant Boundary Fraud for further elightenment.

It’s literally lying and fraud - the forms ask for your residence not “any address you want to write down.” Are you truly trying to claim you can write down whatever address you want?

[Anonymous]

The more bizarre conclusion that driving middle-class families out of DC because they don't have acceptable neighborhood schools is preferable to having them stay. We've been in Ward 6 for 20 years. In that time, at least half of the families with school-age kids we've known have hit the road for NW or the burbs partly because they were fed up with issues relating to access to good DCPS and DCPCS schools. I'd much rather have a neighborhood who's been active in Hill life for years stick around by funding an IB-address for an elementary school than run off to Fairfax. These are the last people I'd report.

It's too easy to judge. We know multiple East Asian immigrant families on CH who went for Brent by fudging an address, after discovering that it was the only public elementary school in Ward 6 with more than a handful of Asian students in the entire school. Are you at that situation as an Asian parent? Get a life.