Don’t Do it Harvard

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The White House is pushing Harvard for a major financial settlement in negotiations to restore more than $2 billion in frozen funds, according to a person familiar with the talks — and demanding that Harvard cough up even more than Columbia University did earlier this week.

United States President Donald Trump is personally pressing officials involved in the negotiations to ensure Harvard pays more than Columbia’s $220 million deal, the person said, adding that Trump believes exceeding that sum would set an example.

The Trump administration has publicly framed the Columbia deal as a “template” for future settlements with elite universities like Harvard. Trump himself has zeroed in on Harvard because of a personal disdain for the University, according to the person, treating the school as a centerpiece in his broader campaign against higher education.

Wait til Trump does this to every other elite university in the country. Trump has legalized extortion, apparently.

First they came for Columbia
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Columbia alum
Then they came for Harvard
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Harvard alum
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

Imagine criminals write these in their jail cell. It’s funny.

It's actually a spin on a famous poem referring to people who refused to speak out against the Holocaust. People use it when they talk about how people refuse to speak out against wrongdoing because it doesn't affect them directly, and eventually the leopard does in fact bite their face.

You think I don’t know that? But when perpetrators say that, it makes it sound really funny.

Go call your nurse and have them give you your meds. Accusing those speaking out for academic freedom and against extortion of being perpetrators makes you sound insane.

Racial discrimination is academic freedom? You’re trying too hard to redefine the term.

You're very confused. No one--not even Trump--is threatening Harvard's funding over racial discrimination. You need to learn to read.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/21/us/trump-administration-harvard-hearing.html

Judge Allison D. Burroughs did not issue a ruling during a crucial hearing, which lasted more than two hours in her courtroom in Boston. But she did seem receptive to Harvard’s arguments, as both the school and the government sought to have the case decided in their favor without a trial.

The judge unleashed a barrage of pointed questions at the lone Justice Department lawyer. She demanded to know, for instance, how the administration could reasonably tie withdrawal of medical research funding to concerns about the civil rights of Jewish people.

And she appeared bothered by the administration’s hurried approach to attacking Harvard’s research funding, suggesting there were potentially “staggering” constitutional consequences if the government could punish a university without due process.

Monday’s hearing came two months after Harvard sued the Trump administration. In the lawsuit, Harvard accused the government of threatening the school’s First Amendment rights when it conditioned federal funding on the university bowing to a set of Trump administration demands. Beyond free speech concerns, a central question in the case is whether the Trump administration ignored rules and procedures when it blocked the funds.

The administration framed its tactics as a righteous response to antisemitism. But Harvard and its allies saw the roster of federal demands as intrusions untethered from trying to eradicate discrimination.

One of the Trump requests is to stop DEI, which is racial discrimination.

How is DEI racial discrimination?

OMG! Really! Because it gives preferential treatment based on race!!!

When someone claims, without evidence, that a Black or Brown person in a position of significance is a “DEI” hire, they’re making three admissions. They:
1. Believe all positions of significance belong to them by default.
2. Believe Black and Brown people are inherently inferior and that there HAD to be a White person more qualified.
3. Believe that sharing power fairly disadvantages them, which is an unconscious acknowledgment that they currently hold it all.

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The White House is pushing Harvard for a major financial settlement in negotiations to restore more than $2 billion in frozen funds, according to a person familiar with the talks — and demanding that Harvard cough up even more than Columbia University did earlier this week.

United States President Donald Trump is personally pressing officials involved in the negotiations to ensure Harvard pays more than Columbia’s $220 million deal, the person said, adding that Trump believes exceeding that sum would set an example.

The Trump administration has publicly framed the Columbia deal as a “template” for future settlements with elite universities like Harvard. Trump himself has zeroed in on Harvard because of a personal disdain for the University, according to the person, treating the school as a centerpiece in his broader campaign against higher education.

Wait til Trump does this to every other elite university in the country. Trump has legalized extortion, apparently.

First they came for Columbia
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Columbia alum
Then they came for Harvard
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Harvard alum
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

Imagine criminals write these in their jail cell. It’s funny.

It's actually a spin on a famous poem referring to people who refused to speak out against the Holocaust. People use it when they talk about how people refuse to speak out against wrongdoing because it doesn't affect them directly, and eventually the leopard does in fact bite their face.

You think I don’t know that? But when perpetrators say that, it makes it sound really funny.

Go call your nurse and have them give you your meds. Accusing those speaking out for academic freedom and against extortion of being perpetrators makes you sound insane.

Racial discrimination is academic freedom? You’re trying too hard to redefine the term.

You're very confused. No one--not even Trump--is threatening Harvard's funding over racial discrimination. You need to learn to read.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/21/us/trump-administration-harvard-hearing.html

Judge Allison D. Burroughs did not issue a ruling during a crucial hearing, which lasted more than two hours in her courtroom in Boston. But she did seem receptive to Harvard’s arguments, as both the school and the government sought to have the case decided in their favor without a trial.

The judge unleashed a barrage of pointed questions at the lone Justice Department lawyer. She demanded to know, for instance, how the administration could reasonably tie withdrawal of medical research funding to concerns about the civil rights of Jewish people.

And she appeared bothered by the administration’s hurried approach to attacking Harvard’s research funding, suggesting there were potentially “staggering” constitutional consequences if the government could punish a university without due process.

Monday’s hearing came two months after Harvard sued the Trump administration. In the lawsuit, Harvard accused the government of threatening the school’s First Amendment rights when it conditioned federal funding on the university bowing to a set of Trump administration demands. Beyond free speech concerns, a central question in the case is whether the Trump administration ignored rules and procedures when it blocked the funds.

The administration framed its tactics as a righteous response to antisemitism. But Harvard and its allies saw the roster of federal demands as intrusions untethered from trying to eradicate discrimination.

One of the Trump requests is to stop DEI, which is racial discrimination.

How is DEI racial discrimination?

OMG! Really! Because it gives preferential treatment based on race!!!

No. The core purpose of DEI is to level the playing field and ensure equal opportunities for all, regardless of background. It's about removing systemic barriers that have historically disadvantaged specific communities, not about giving them special privileges.

I'm as anti-Trump as they get. But I admit some places went overboard with DEI. It went beyond leveling the playing field.

That being said, first of all, this is not the President's jurisdiction - he has bigger things to worry about (and I don't want to hear that it is his jurisdiction because they are getting federal funding - give me a break). And second of all, even if it was, how about a little diplomacy? No need to go in there with guns blazing. This is childish. This is like telling kids in a school yard that all problems should be solved with knock down, drag out fist fights. Is that how these people raise their children? Really?

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The White House is pushing Harvard for a major financial settlement in negotiations to restore more than $2 billion in frozen funds, according to a person familiar with the talks — and demanding that Harvard cough up even more than Columbia University did earlier this week.

United States President Donald Trump is personally pressing officials involved in the negotiations to ensure Harvard pays more than Columbia’s $220 million deal, the person said, adding that Trump believes exceeding that sum would set an example.

The Trump administration has publicly framed the Columbia deal as a “template” for future settlements with elite universities like Harvard. Trump himself has zeroed in on Harvard because of a personal disdain for the University, according to the person, treating the school as a centerpiece in his broader campaign against higher education.

Wait til Trump does this to every other elite university in the country. Trump has legalized extortion, apparently.

First they came for Columbia
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Columbia alum
Then they came for Harvard
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Harvard alum
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

Imagine criminals write these in their jail cell. It’s funny.

It's actually a spin on a famous poem referring to people who refused to speak out against the Holocaust. People use it when they talk about how people refuse to speak out against wrongdoing because it doesn't affect them directly, and eventually the leopard does in fact bite their face.

You think I don’t know that? But when perpetrators say that, it makes it sound really funny.

Go call your nurse and have them give you your meds. Accusing those speaking out for academic freedom and against extortion of being perpetrators makes you sound insane.

Racial discrimination is academic freedom? You’re trying too hard to redefine the term.

You're very confused. No one--not even Trump--is threatening Harvard's funding over racial discrimination. You need to learn to read.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/21/us/trump-administration-harvard-hearing.html

Judge Allison D. Burroughs did not issue a ruling during a crucial hearing, which lasted more than two hours in her courtroom in Boston. But she did seem receptive to Harvard’s arguments, as both the school and the government sought to have the case decided in their favor without a trial.

The judge unleashed a barrage of pointed questions at the lone Justice Department lawyer. She demanded to know, for instance, how the administration could reasonably tie withdrawal of medical research funding to concerns about the civil rights of Jewish people.

And she appeared bothered by the administration’s hurried approach to attacking Harvard’s research funding, suggesting there were potentially “staggering” constitutional consequences if the government could punish a university without due process.

Monday’s hearing came two months after Harvard sued the Trump administration. In the lawsuit, Harvard accused the government of threatening the school’s First Amendment rights when it conditioned federal funding on the university bowing to a set of Trump administration demands. Beyond free speech concerns, a central question in the case is whether the Trump administration ignored rules and procedures when it blocked the funds.

The administration framed its tactics as a righteous response to antisemitism. But Harvard and its allies saw the roster of federal demands as intrusions untethered from trying to eradicate discrimination.

One of the Trump requests is to stop DEI, which is racial discrimination.

How is DEI racial discrimination?

OMG! Really! Because it gives preferential treatment based on race!!!

No. The core purpose of DEI is to level the playing field and ensure equal opportunities for all, regardless of background. It's about removing systemic barriers that have historically disadvantaged specific communities, not about giving them special privileges.

Who gives you the right to “level the playing field” at the expense of other people’s interest and lives? Why are YOU making that decision? How dare you!

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The White House is pushing Harvard for a major financial settlement in negotiations to restore more than $2 billion in frozen funds, according to a person familiar with the talks — and demanding that Harvard cough up even more than Columbia University did earlier this week.

United States President Donald Trump is personally pressing officials involved in the negotiations to ensure Harvard pays more than Columbia’s $220 million deal, the person said, adding that Trump believes exceeding that sum would set an example.

The Trump administration has publicly framed the Columbia deal as a “template” for future settlements with elite universities like Harvard. Trump himself has zeroed in on Harvard because of a personal disdain for the University, according to the person, treating the school as a centerpiece in his broader campaign against higher education.

Wait til Trump does this to every other elite university in the country. Trump has legalized extortion, apparently.

First they came for Columbia
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Columbia alum
Then they came for Harvard
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Harvard alum
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

Imagine criminals write these in their jail cell. It’s funny.

It's actually a spin on a famous poem referring to people who refused to speak out against the Holocaust. People use it when they talk about how people refuse to speak out against wrongdoing because it doesn't affect them directly, and eventually the leopard does in fact bite their face.

You think I don’t know that? But when perpetrators say that, it makes it sound really funny.

Go call your nurse and have them give you your meds. Accusing those speaking out for academic freedom and against extortion of being perpetrators makes you sound insane.

Racial discrimination is academic freedom? You’re trying too hard to redefine the term.

You're very confused. No one--not even Trump--is threatening Harvard's funding over racial discrimination. You need to learn to read.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/21/us/trump-administration-harvard-hearing.html

Judge Allison D. Burroughs did not issue a ruling during a crucial hearing, which lasted more than two hours in her courtroom in Boston. But she did seem receptive to Harvard’s arguments, as both the school and the government sought to have the case decided in their favor without a trial.

The judge unleashed a barrage of pointed questions at the lone Justice Department lawyer. She demanded to know, for instance, how the administration could reasonably tie withdrawal of medical research funding to concerns about the civil rights of Jewish people.

And she appeared bothered by the administration’s hurried approach to attacking Harvard’s research funding, suggesting there were potentially “staggering” constitutional consequences if the government could punish a university without due process.

Monday’s hearing came two months after Harvard sued the Trump administration. In the lawsuit, Harvard accused the government of threatening the school’s First Amendment rights when it conditioned federal funding on the university bowing to a set of Trump administration demands. Beyond free speech concerns, a central question in the case is whether the Trump administration ignored rules and procedures when it blocked the funds.

The administration framed its tactics as a righteous response to antisemitism. But Harvard and its allies saw the roster of federal demands as intrusions untethered from trying to eradicate discrimination.

One of the Trump requests is to stop DEI, which is racial discrimination.

How is DEI racial discrimination?

OMG! Really! Because it gives preferential treatment based on race!!!

When someone claims, without evidence, that a Black or Brown person in a position of significance is a “DEI” hire, they’re making three admissions. They:
1. Believe all positions of significance belong to them by default.
2. Believe Black and Brown people are inherently inferior and that there HAD to be a White person more qualified.
3. Believe that sharing power fairly disadvantages them, which is an unconscious acknowledgment that they currently hold it all.

The case as it stands has little to do with DEI. The DOJ's case is that Harvard's alleged antisemitism justifies the cuts to their research funding. The judge (who is Jewish and who news stories say has a family who escaped the pogroms) was struggling to understand it, as was I.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/21/us/trump-administration-harvard-hearing.html

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The White House is pushing Harvard for a major financial settlement in negotiations to restore more than $2 billion in frozen funds, according to a person familiar with the talks — and demanding that Harvard cough up even more than Columbia University did earlier this week.

United States President Donald Trump is personally pressing officials involved in the negotiations to ensure Harvard pays more than Columbia’s $220 million deal, the person said, adding that Trump believes exceeding that sum would set an example.

The Trump administration has publicly framed the Columbia deal as a “template” for future settlements with elite universities like Harvard. Trump himself has zeroed in on Harvard because of a personal disdain for the University, according to the person, treating the school as a centerpiece in his broader campaign against higher education.

Wait til Trump does this to every other elite university in the country. Trump has legalized extortion, apparently.

First they came for Columbia
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Columbia alum
Then they came for Harvard
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Harvard alum
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

Imagine criminals write these in their jail cell. It’s funny.

It's actually a spin on a famous poem referring to people who refused to speak out against the Holocaust. People use it when they talk about how people refuse to speak out against wrongdoing because it doesn't affect them directly, and eventually the leopard does in fact bite their face.

You think I don’t know that? But when perpetrators say that, it makes it sound really funny.

Go call your nurse and have them give you your meds. Accusing those speaking out for academic freedom and against extortion of being perpetrators makes you sound insane.

Racial discrimination is academic freedom? You’re trying too hard to redefine the term.

You're very confused. No one--not even Trump--is threatening Harvard's funding over racial discrimination. You need to learn to read.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/21/us/trump-administration-harvard-hearing.html

Judge Allison D. Burroughs did not issue a ruling during a crucial hearing, which lasted more than two hours in her courtroom in Boston. But she did seem receptive to Harvard’s arguments, as both the school and the government sought to have the case decided in their favor without a trial.

The judge unleashed a barrage of pointed questions at the lone Justice Department lawyer. She demanded to know, for instance, how the administration could reasonably tie withdrawal of medical research funding to concerns about the civil rights of Jewish people.

And she appeared bothered by the administration’s hurried approach to attacking Harvard’s research funding, suggesting there were potentially “staggering” constitutional consequences if the government could punish a university without due process.

Monday’s hearing came two months after Harvard sued the Trump administration. In the lawsuit, Harvard accused the government of threatening the school’s First Amendment rights when it conditioned federal funding on the university bowing to a set of Trump administration demands. Beyond free speech concerns, a central question in the case is whether the Trump administration ignored rules and procedures when it blocked the funds.

The administration framed its tactics as a righteous response to antisemitism. But Harvard and its allies saw the roster of federal demands as intrusions untethered from trying to eradicate discrimination.

One of the Trump requests is to stop DEI, which is racial discrimination.

How is DEI racial discrimination?

OMG! Really! Because it gives preferential treatment based on race!!!

When someone claims, without evidence, that a Black or Brown person in a position of significance is a “DEI” hire, they’re making three admissions. They:
1. Believe all positions of significance belong to them by default.
2. Believe Black and Brown people are inherently inferior and that there HAD to be a White person more qualified.
3. Believe that sharing power fairly disadvantages them, which is an unconscious acknowledgment that they currently hold it all.

It’s been proven certain groups of people have been discriminated as an expense of achieving the DEI.
QED

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The White House is pushing Harvard for a major financial settlement in negotiations to restore more than $2 billion in frozen funds, according to a person familiar with the talks — and demanding that Harvard cough up even more than Columbia University did earlier this week.

United States President Donald Trump is personally pressing officials involved in the negotiations to ensure Harvard pays more than Columbia’s $220 million deal, the person said, adding that Trump believes exceeding that sum would set an example.

The Trump administration has publicly framed the Columbia deal as a “template” for future settlements with elite universities like Harvard. Trump himself has zeroed in on Harvard because of a personal disdain for the University, according to the person, treating the school as a centerpiece in his broader campaign against higher education.

Wait til Trump does this to every other elite university in the country. Trump has legalized extortion, apparently.

First they came for Columbia
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Columbia alum
Then they came for Harvard
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Harvard alum
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

Imagine criminals write these in their jail cell. It’s funny.

It's actually a spin on a famous poem referring to people who refused to speak out against the Holocaust. People use it when they talk about how people refuse to speak out against wrongdoing because it doesn't affect them directly, and eventually the leopard does in fact bite their face.

You think I don’t know that? But when perpetrators say that, it makes it sound really funny.

Go call your nurse and have them give you your meds. Accusing those speaking out for academic freedom and against extortion of being perpetrators makes you sound insane.

Racial discrimination is academic freedom? You’re trying too hard to redefine the term.

You're very confused. No one--not even Trump--is threatening Harvard's funding over racial discrimination. You need to learn to read.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/21/us/trump-administration-harvard-hearing.html

Judge Allison D. Burroughs did not issue a ruling during a crucial hearing, which lasted more than two hours in her courtroom in Boston. But she did seem receptive to Harvard’s arguments, as both the school and the government sought to have the case decided in their favor without a trial.

The judge unleashed a barrage of pointed questions at the lone Justice Department lawyer. She demanded to know, for instance, how the administration could reasonably tie withdrawal of medical research funding to concerns about the civil rights of Jewish people.

And she appeared bothered by the administration’s hurried approach to attacking Harvard’s research funding, suggesting there were potentially “staggering” constitutional consequences if the government could punish a university without due process.

Monday’s hearing came two months after Harvard sued the Trump administration. In the lawsuit, Harvard accused the government of threatening the school’s First Amendment rights when it conditioned federal funding on the university bowing to a set of Trump administration demands. Beyond free speech concerns, a central question in the case is whether the Trump administration ignored rules and procedures when it blocked the funds.

The administration framed its tactics as a righteous response to antisemitism. But Harvard and its allies saw the roster of federal demands as intrusions untethered from trying to eradicate discrimination.

One of the Trump requests is to stop DEI, which is racial discrimination.

How is DEI racial discrimination?

OMG! Really! Because it gives preferential treatment based on race!!!

When someone claims, without evidence, that a Black or Brown person in a position of significance is a “DEI” hire, they’re making three admissions. They:
1. Believe all positions of significance belong to them by default.
2. Believe Black and Brown people are inherently inferior and that there HAD to be a White person more qualified.
3. Believe that sharing power fairly disadvantages them, which is an unconscious acknowledgment that they currently hold it all.

I'm the anti-Trump poster from below. I am strongly in favor of diversity. But I have also had the misfortune of working with "DEI hires". They were people who were grossly unqualified hired solely on the basis of their skin color. It was often embarrassing for them - our employer gave them tons of extra help and resources but they were in way over their head. And the other minority employees who actually were highly qualified and talented resented them the most. Because since there were plenty of DEI hires, it was not wrong to assume that the others also were.

I am fine with giving minorities preference when "all things are basically equal." And I think more efforts should be made to reach out to minority candidates who are qualified and make them feel welcome in largely white organizations. But when the candidate is several standard deviations below in terms of qualifications, it is pushing it too far. This doesn't happen frequently, but it is not totally rare either.

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If the people screaming the loudest about the evils of DEI can look at Trump’s cabinet and make the case that all of them were hired based on merit, I’ll shut up.

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The White House is pushing Harvard for a major financial settlement in negotiations to restore more than $2 billion in frozen funds, according to a person familiar with the talks — and demanding that Harvard cough up even more than Columbia University did earlier this week.

United States President Donald Trump is personally pressing officials involved in the negotiations to ensure Harvard pays more than Columbia’s $220 million deal, the person said, adding that Trump believes exceeding that sum would set an example.

The Trump administration has publicly framed the Columbia deal as a “template” for future settlements with elite universities like Harvard. Trump himself has zeroed in on Harvard because of a personal disdain for the University, according to the person, treating the school as a centerpiece in his broader campaign against higher education.

Wait til Trump does this to every other elite university in the country. Trump has legalized extortion, apparently.

First they came for Columbia
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Columbia alum
Then they came for Harvard
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Harvard alum
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

Imagine criminals write these in their jail cell. It’s funny.

It's actually a spin on a famous poem referring to people who refused to speak out against the Holocaust. People use it when they talk about how people refuse to speak out against wrongdoing because it doesn't affect them directly, and eventually the leopard does in fact bite their face.

You think I don’t know that? But when perpetrators say that, it makes it sound really funny.

Go call your nurse and have them give you your meds. Accusing those speaking out for academic freedom and against extortion of being perpetrators makes you sound insane.

Racial discrimination is academic freedom? You’re trying too hard to redefine the term.

You're very confused. No one--not even Trump--is threatening Harvard's funding over racial discrimination. You need to learn to read.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/21/us/trump-administration-harvard-hearing.html

Judge Allison D. Burroughs did not issue a ruling during a crucial hearing, which lasted more than two hours in her courtroom in Boston. But she did seem receptive to Harvard’s arguments, as both the school and the government sought to have the case decided in their favor without a trial.

The judge unleashed a barrage of pointed questions at the lone Justice Department lawyer. She demanded to know, for instance, how the administration could reasonably tie withdrawal of medical research funding to concerns about the civil rights of Jewish people.

And she appeared bothered by the administration’s hurried approach to attacking Harvard’s research funding, suggesting there were potentially “staggering” constitutional consequences if the government could punish a university without due process.

Monday’s hearing came two months after Harvard sued the Trump administration. In the lawsuit, Harvard accused the government of threatening the school’s First Amendment rights when it conditioned federal funding on the university bowing to a set of Trump administration demands. Beyond free speech concerns, a central question in the case is whether the Trump administration ignored rules and procedures when it blocked the funds.

The administration framed its tactics as a righteous response to antisemitism. But Harvard and its allies saw the roster of federal demands as intrusions untethered from trying to eradicate discrimination.

One of the Trump requests is to stop DEI, which is racial discrimination.

How is DEI racial discrimination?

OMG! Really! Because it gives preferential treatment based on race!!!

When someone claims, without evidence, that a Black or Brown person in a position of significance is a “DEI” hire, they’re making three admissions. They:
1. Believe all positions of significance belong to them by default.
2. Believe Black and Brown people are inherently inferior and that there HAD to be a White person more qualified.
3. Believe that sharing power fairly disadvantages them, which is an unconscious acknowledgment that they currently hold it all.

The case as it stands has little to do with DEI. The DOJ's case is that Harvard's alleged antisemitism justifies the cuts to their research funding. The judge (who is Jewish and who news stories say has a family who escaped the pogroms) was struggling to understand it, as was I.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/21/us/trump-administration-harvard-hearing.html

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“Let’s assume for the sake of argument that Harvard has not covered itself in glory on the topic of antisemitism,” she said, noting her own Jewish faith. What, she asked, was the relationship between antisemitism and cutting off, for instance, cancer research funding?

“You’re not taking away grants from labs that have been antisemitic,” she said.

Mr. Velchik replied that the government had discretion to direct public money as it saw fit.

“You’re saying you can terminate a contract for any and all reasons, even if the reason you’re giving is a violation of the Constitution?” Judge Burroughs asked Mr. Velchik at one point, her doubts made clear by her tone. At another moment, she said, “I don’t think you can justify a contract action based on impermissible suppression of speech.”

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The White House is pushing Harvard for a major financial settlement in negotiations to restore more than $2 billion in frozen funds, according to a person familiar with the talks — and demanding that Harvard cough up even more than Columbia University did earlier this week.

United States President Donald Trump is personally pressing officials involved in the negotiations to ensure Harvard pays more than Columbia’s $220 million deal, the person said, adding that Trump believes exceeding that sum would set an example.

The Trump administration has publicly framed the Columbia deal as a “template” for future settlements with elite universities like Harvard. Trump himself has zeroed in on Harvard because of a personal disdain for the University, according to the person, treating the school as a centerpiece in his broader campaign against higher education.

Wait til Trump does this to every other elite university in the country. Trump has legalized extortion, apparently.

First they came for Columbia
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Columbia alum
Then they came for Harvard
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Harvard alum
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

Imagine criminals write these in their jail cell. It’s funny.

It's actually a spin on a famous poem referring to people who refused to speak out against the Holocaust. People use it when they talk about how people refuse to speak out against wrongdoing because it doesn't affect them directly, and eventually the leopard does in fact bite their face.

You think I don’t know that? But when perpetrators say that, it makes it sound really funny.

Go call your nurse and have them give you your meds. Accusing those speaking out for academic freedom and against extortion of being perpetrators makes you sound insane.

Racial discrimination is academic freedom? You’re trying too hard to redefine the term.

You're very confused. No one--not even Trump--is threatening Harvard's funding over racial discrimination. You need to learn to read.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/21/us/trump-administration-harvard-hearing.html

Judge Allison D. Burroughs did not issue a ruling during a crucial hearing, which lasted more than two hours in her courtroom in Boston. But she did seem receptive to Harvard’s arguments, as both the school and the government sought to have the case decided in their favor without a trial.

The judge unleashed a barrage of pointed questions at the lone Justice Department lawyer. She demanded to know, for instance, how the administration could reasonably tie withdrawal of medical research funding to concerns about the civil rights of Jewish people.

And she appeared bothered by the administration’s hurried approach to attacking Harvard’s research funding, suggesting there were potentially “staggering” constitutional consequences if the government could punish a university without due process.

Monday’s hearing came two months after Harvard sued the Trump administration. In the lawsuit, Harvard accused the government of threatening the school’s First Amendment rights when it conditioned federal funding on the university bowing to a set of Trump administration demands. Beyond free speech concerns, a central question in the case is whether the Trump administration ignored rules and procedures when it blocked the funds.

The administration framed its tactics as a righteous response to antisemitism. But Harvard and its allies saw the roster of federal demands as intrusions untethered from trying to eradicate discrimination.

One of the Trump requests is to stop DEI, which is racial discrimination.

How is DEI racial discrimination?

OMG! Really! Because it gives preferential treatment based on race!!!

When someone claims, without evidence, that a Black or Brown person in a position of significance is a “DEI” hire, they’re making three admissions. They:
1. Believe all positions of significance belong to them by default.
2. Believe Black and Brown people are inherently inferior and that there HAD to be a White person more qualified.
3. Believe that sharing power fairly disadvantages them, which is an unconscious acknowledgment that they currently hold it all.

I'm the anti-Trump poster from below. I am strongly in favor of diversity. But I have also had the misfortune of working with "DEI hires". They were people who were grossly unqualified hired solely on the basis of their skin color. It was often embarrassing for them - our employer gave them tons of extra help and resources but they were in way over their head. And the other minority employees who actually were highly qualified and talented resented them the most. Because since there were plenty of DEI hires, it was not wrong to assume that the others also were.

I am fine with giving minorities preference when "all things are basically equal." And I think more efforts should be made to reach out to minority candidates who are qualified and make them feel welcome in largely white organizations. But when the candidate is several standard deviations below in terms of qualifications, it is pushing it too far. This doesn't happen frequently, but it is not totally rare either.

How do you feel about Hegseth and Vance — just to quickly name two? They are hardly the most qualified people out there for their positions. They don’t even seem to be personally liked by the president who chose them. It’s also pretty easy to argue that their race and their gender where helpful factors in getting them their jobs. They are — in my opinion — grossly unqualified and hired almost solely on the basis of skin color and gender. Any thoughts? Or do you only care about qualifications when it comes to people that you view as minorities?

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The White House is pushing Harvard for a major financial settlement in negotiations to restore more than $2 billion in frozen funds, according to a person familiar with the talks — and demanding that Harvard cough up even more than Columbia University did earlier this week.

United States President Donald Trump is personally pressing officials involved in the negotiations to ensure Harvard pays more than Columbia’s $220 million deal, the person said, adding that Trump believes exceeding that sum would set an example.

The Trump administration has publicly framed the Columbia deal as a “template” for future settlements with elite universities like Harvard. Trump himself has zeroed in on Harvard because of a personal disdain for the University, according to the person, treating the school as a centerpiece in his broader campaign against higher education.

Wait til Trump does this to every other elite university in the country. Trump has legalized extortion, apparently.

First they came for Columbia
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Columbia alum
Then they came for Harvard
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Harvard alum
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

Imagine criminals write these in their jail cell. It’s funny.

It's actually a spin on a famous poem referring to people who refused to speak out against the Holocaust. People use it when they talk about how people refuse to speak out against wrongdoing because it doesn't affect them directly, and eventually the leopard does in fact bite their face.

You think I don’t know that? But when perpetrators say that, it makes it sound really funny.

Go call your nurse and have them give you your meds. Accusing those speaking out for academic freedom and against extortion of being perpetrators makes you sound insane.

Racial discrimination is academic freedom? You’re trying too hard to redefine the term.

You're very confused. No one--not even Trump--is threatening Harvard's funding over racial discrimination. You need to learn to read.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/21/us/trump-administration-harvard-hearing.html

Judge Allison D. Burroughs did not issue a ruling during a crucial hearing, which lasted more than two hours in her courtroom in Boston. But she did seem receptive to Harvard’s arguments, as both the school and the government sought to have the case decided in their favor without a trial.

The judge unleashed a barrage of pointed questions at the lone Justice Department lawyer. She demanded to know, for instance, how the administration could reasonably tie withdrawal of medical research funding to concerns about the civil rights of Jewish people.

And she appeared bothered by the administration’s hurried approach to attacking Harvard’s research funding, suggesting there were potentially “staggering” constitutional consequences if the government could punish a university without due process.

Monday’s hearing came two months after Harvard sued the Trump administration. In the lawsuit, Harvard accused the government of threatening the school’s First Amendment rights when it conditioned federal funding on the university bowing to a set of Trump administration demands. Beyond free speech concerns, a central question in the case is whether the Trump administration ignored rules and procedures when it blocked the funds.

The administration framed its tactics as a righteous response to antisemitism. But Harvard and its allies saw the roster of federal demands as intrusions untethered from trying to eradicate discrimination.

One of the Trump requests is to stop DEI, which is racial discrimination.

How is DEI racial discrimination?

OMG! Really! Because it gives preferential treatment based on race!!!

So we should go back to the times where the default preference was for whites? Because that’s what existed before equity and inclusion programs. Are you also opposed to the ADA and Title IX?

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The White House is pushing Harvard for a major financial settlement in negotiations to restore more than $2 billion in frozen funds, according to a person familiar with the talks — and demanding that Harvard cough up even more than Columbia University did earlier this week.

United States President Donald Trump is personally pressing officials involved in the negotiations to ensure Harvard pays more than Columbia’s $220 million deal, the person said, adding that Trump believes exceeding that sum would set an example.

The Trump administration has publicly framed the Columbia deal as a “template” for future settlements with elite universities like Harvard. Trump himself has zeroed in on Harvard because of a personal disdain for the University, according to the person, treating the school as a centerpiece in his broader campaign against higher education.

Wait til Trump does this to every other elite university in the country. Trump has legalized extortion, apparently.

First they came for Columbia
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Columbia alum
Then they came for Harvard
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Harvard alum
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

Imagine criminals write these in their jail cell. It’s funny.

It's actually a spin on a famous poem referring to people who refused to speak out against the Holocaust. People use it when they talk about how people refuse to speak out against wrongdoing because it doesn't affect them directly, and eventually the leopard does in fact bite their face.

You think I don’t know that? But when perpetrators say that, it makes it sound really funny.

Go call your nurse and have them give you your meds. Accusing those speaking out for academic freedom and against extortion of being perpetrators makes you sound insane.

Racial discrimination is academic freedom? You’re trying too hard to redefine the term.

You're very confused. No one--not even Trump--is threatening Harvard's funding over racial discrimination. You need to learn to read.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/21/us/trump-administration-harvard-hearing.html

Judge Allison D. Burroughs did not issue a ruling during a crucial hearing, which lasted more than two hours in her courtroom in Boston. But she did seem receptive to Harvard’s arguments, as both the school and the government sought to have the case decided in their favor without a trial.

The judge unleashed a barrage of pointed questions at the lone Justice Department lawyer. She demanded to know, for instance, how the administration could reasonably tie withdrawal of medical research funding to concerns about the civil rights of Jewish people.

And she appeared bothered by the administration’s hurried approach to attacking Harvard’s research funding, suggesting there were potentially “staggering” constitutional consequences if the government could punish a university without due process.

Monday’s hearing came two months after Harvard sued the Trump administration. In the lawsuit, Harvard accused the government of threatening the school’s First Amendment rights when it conditioned federal funding on the university bowing to a set of Trump administration demands. Beyond free speech concerns, a central question in the case is whether the Trump administration ignored rules and procedures when it blocked the funds.

The administration framed its tactics as a righteous response to antisemitism. But Harvard and its allies saw the roster of federal demands as intrusions untethered from trying to eradicate discrimination.

One of the Trump requests is to stop DEI, which is racial discrimination.

How is DEI racial discrimination?

OMG! Really! Because it gives preferential treatment based on race!!!

So we should go back to the times where the default preference was for whites? Because that’s what existed before equity and inclusion programs. Are you also opposed to the ADA and Title IX?

Why you think the only solution to the historical racial discrimination is to press for more racial discrimination? How about forgetting about race in all decision makings?

[Anonymous]

Why would the administration even want to reach a settlement with a fine ? Harvard needs totally new management and a new board and new governance to undo the toxic culture. Money is not going to change things. Firing people will. Besides $500 million fine for the research grants to be reinstated is left pocket, right pocket stuff. Trump should stay steadfast until Harvard changes.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2025/7/27/harvard-trump-settlement-columbia/
The White House is pushing Harvard for a major financial settlement in negotiations to restore more than $2 billion in frozen funds, according to a person familiar with the talks — and demanding that Harvard cough up even more than Columbia University did earlier this week.

United States President Donald Trump is personally pressing officials involved in the negotiations to ensure Harvard pays more than Columbia’s $220 million deal, the person said, adding that Trump believes exceeding that sum would set an example.

The Trump administration has publicly framed the Columbia deal as a “template” for future settlements with elite universities like Harvard. Trump himself has zeroed in on Harvard because of a personal disdain for the University, according to the person, treating the school as a centerpiece in his broader campaign against higher education.

Wait til Trump does this to every other elite university in the country. Trump has legalized extortion, apparently.

First they came for Columbia
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Columbia alum
Then they came for Harvard
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Harvard alum
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

Imagine criminals write these in their jail cell. It’s funny.

It's actually a spin on a famous poem referring to people who refused to speak out against the Holocaust. People use it when they talk about how people refuse to speak out against wrongdoing because it doesn't affect them directly, and eventually the leopard does in fact bite their face.

You think I don’t know that? But when perpetrators say that, it makes it sound really funny.

Go call your nurse and have them give you your meds. Accusing those speaking out for academic freedom and against extortion of being perpetrators makes you sound insane.

Racial discrimination is academic freedom? You’re trying too hard to redefine the term.

You're very confused. No one--not even Trump--is threatening Harvard's funding over racial discrimination. You need to learn to read.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/21/us/trump-administration-harvard-hearing.html

Judge Allison D. Burroughs did not issue a ruling during a crucial hearing, which lasted more than two hours in her courtroom in Boston. But she did seem receptive to Harvard’s arguments, as both the school and the government sought to have the case decided in their favor without a trial.

The judge unleashed a barrage of pointed questions at the lone Justice Department lawyer. She demanded to know, for instance, how the administration could reasonably tie withdrawal of medical research funding to concerns about the civil rights of Jewish people.

And she appeared bothered by the administration’s hurried approach to attacking Harvard’s research funding, suggesting there were potentially “staggering” constitutional consequences if the government could punish a university without due process.

Monday’s hearing came two months after Harvard sued the Trump administration. In the lawsuit, Harvard accused the government of threatening the school’s First Amendment rights when it conditioned federal funding on the university bowing to a set of Trump administration demands. Beyond free speech concerns, a central question in the case is whether the Trump administration ignored rules and procedures when it blocked the funds.

The administration framed its tactics as a righteous response to antisemitism. But Harvard and its allies saw the roster of federal demands as intrusions untethered from trying to eradicate discrimination.

One of the Trump requests is to stop DEI, which is racial discrimination.

How is DEI racial discrimination?

OMG! Really! Because it gives preferential treatment based on race!!!

When someone claims, without evidence, that a Black or Brown person in a position of significance is a “DEI” hire, they’re making three admissions. They:
1. Believe all positions of significance belong to them by default.
2. Believe Black and Brown people are inherently inferior and that there HAD to be a White person more qualified.
3. Believe that sharing power fairly disadvantages them, which is an unconscious acknowledgment that they currently hold it all.

I'm the anti-Trump poster from below. I am strongly in favor of diversity. But I have also had the misfortune of working with "DEI hires". They were people who were grossly unqualified hired solely on the basis of their skin color. It was often embarrassing for them - our employer gave them tons of extra help and resources but they were in way over their head. And the other minority employees who actually were highly qualified and talented resented them the most. Because since there were plenty of DEI hires, it was not wrong to assume that the others also were.

I am fine with giving minorities preference when "all things are basically equal." And I think more efforts should be made to reach out to minority candidates who are qualified and make them feel welcome in largely white organizations. But when the candidate is several standard deviations below in terms of qualifications, it is pushing it too far. This doesn't happen frequently, but it is not totally rare either.

How do you feel about Hegseth and Vance — just to quickly name two? They are hardly the most qualified people out there for their positions. They don’t even seem to be personally liked by the president who chose them. It’s also pretty easy to argue that their race and their gender where helpful factors in getting them their jobs. They are — in my opinion — grossly unqualified and hired almost solely on the basis of skin color and gender. Any thoughts? Or do you only care about qualifications when it comes to people that you view as minorities?

I am the person you are replying to and I 100% agree with you. I find this to be the height of hypocrisy by Trump. Pathetically rewarding his loyal attack dogs by giving them jobs they are not remotely qualified for.

I have also worked with a few grossly unqualified children of clients, boss's golfing buddies, etc. And it is just as bad, if not worse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why would the administration even want to reach a settlement with a fine ? Harvard needs totally new management and a new board and new governance to undo the toxic culture. Money is not going to change things. Firing people will. Besides $500 million fine for the research grants to be reinstated is left pocket, right pocket stuff. Trump should stay steadfast until Harvard changes.

How is the culture toxic? It is not perfect but far from toxic. And please don't say he is helping Jews. Because countless Jews affiliated with Harvard have publicly stated they are perfectly fine with everything and that Trump should stay out of it.

Please stop trying to solve problems that largely don't exist for groups that don't want your help.

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The White House is pushing Harvard for a major financial settlement in negotiations to restore more than $2 billion in frozen funds, according to a person familiar with the talks — and demanding that Harvard cough up even more than Columbia University did earlier this week.

United States President Donald Trump is personally pressing officials involved in the negotiations to ensure Harvard pays more than Columbia’s $220 million deal, the person said, adding that Trump believes exceeding that sum would set an example.

The Trump administration has publicly framed the Columbia deal as a “template” for future settlements with elite universities like Harvard. Trump himself has zeroed in on Harvard because of a personal disdain for the University, according to the person, treating the school as a centerpiece in his broader campaign against higher education.

Wait til Trump does this to every other elite university in the country. Trump has legalized extortion, apparently.

First they came for Columbia
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Columbia alum
Then they came for Harvard
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Harvard alum
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

Imagine criminals write these in their jail cell. It’s funny.

It's actually a spin on a famous poem referring to people who refused to speak out against the Holocaust. People use it when they talk about how people refuse to speak out against wrongdoing because it doesn't affect them directly, and eventually the leopard does in fact bite their face.

You think I don’t know that? But when perpetrators say that, it makes it sound really funny.

Go call your nurse and have them give you your meds. Accusing those speaking out for academic freedom and against extortion of being perpetrators makes you sound insane.

Racial discrimination is academic freedom? You’re trying too hard to redefine the term.

You're very confused. No one--not even Trump--is threatening Harvard's funding over racial discrimination. You need to learn to read.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/21/us/trump-administration-harvard-hearing.html

Judge Allison D. Burroughs did not issue a ruling during a crucial hearing, which lasted more than two hours in her courtroom in Boston. But she did seem receptive to Harvard’s arguments, as both the school and the government sought to have the case decided in their favor without a trial.

The judge unleashed a barrage of pointed questions at the lone Justice Department lawyer. She demanded to know, for instance, how the administration could reasonably tie withdrawal of medical research funding to concerns about the civil rights of Jewish people.

And she appeared bothered by the administration’s hurried approach to attacking Harvard’s research funding, suggesting there were potentially “staggering” constitutional consequences if the government could punish a university without due process.

Monday’s hearing came two months after Harvard sued the Trump administration. In the lawsuit, Harvard accused the government of threatening the school’s First Amendment rights when it conditioned federal funding on the university bowing to a set of Trump administration demands. Beyond free speech concerns, a central question in the case is whether the Trump administration ignored rules and procedures when it blocked the funds.

The administration framed its tactics as a righteous response to antisemitism. But Harvard and its allies saw the roster of federal demands as intrusions untethered from trying to eradicate discrimination.

One of the Trump requests is to stop DEI, which is racial discrimination.

How is DEI racial discrimination?

OMG! Really! Because it gives preferential treatment based on race!!!

When someone claims, without evidence, that a Black or Brown person in a position of significance is a “DEI” hire, they’re making three admissions. They:
1. Believe all positions of significance belong to them by default.
2. Believe Black and Brown people are inherently inferior and that there HAD to be a White person more qualified.
3. Believe that sharing power fairly disadvantages them, which is an unconscious acknowledgment that they currently hold it all.

The case as it stands has little to do with DEI. The DOJ's case is that Harvard's alleged antisemitism justifies the cuts to their research funding. The judge (who is Jewish and who news stories say has a family who escaped the pogroms) was struggling to understand it, as was I.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/21/us/trump-administration-harvard-hearing.html

Harvard gives preferential admission to Jewish students. Harvard has 20% Jewish students while Jews only make up 2% of the population. Now it seems all executives positions must be filled by right wing pro Israeli Jews. How is that antisemitic? How many non Jewish students are being discriminated against? How many professors are Jewish?

This whole thing smell very fishy.