What's with the New England Bias? This is DC urban mom, not Boston (BUM)

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Anonymous wrote:Because a lot of moms here want to be cool enough to be Needham or even Wellesley Moms, but instead, they reside on swamplands.
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Boston mom here. Dcum are the wannabes


And yet here you are…on DCUM.

I think there are people, like myself, that wouldn’t mind living in NYC. But it’s laughable to think anyone here covets Boston. Very few people here even think about NE - never mind want to live there. But this provincial thinking is common there; I was the same until I left NE and went to college in the South.

I would never consider living in Boston and I own a summer home in MA and don’t even like DC that much…

But to get back on topic, New England has 1/2 the ivies and more than 1/2 of the top liberal arts schools. It’s just a fact that New England private colleges are some of the best and are discussed on a board full of wealthy people.

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Yeah sure, very few people here even think about the Northeast... I'll believe that when they stop talking about it


Reading comprehension is your friend. DCUM wants to send their kids to elite New England schools. They don’t want to live there.

A couple of posters said DCUM moms wished they were moms from Wellesley (lol) and were “wannabes” who wished they lived in New England. No one in DC aspires to live in Boston, never mind the sleepy suburbs there. It just isn’t a thing - people don’t think about NE unless it’s for college.


I would much rather live in Boston over DC if I had to pick East Coast.

DC is a shthole.
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Anonymous wrote:New Englander by birth and education, Virginian by the grace of God here. This whole thread seems designed to make New Englanders look like petty provincial snobs. DC is a one horse town (gov) but Boston is only a little better: you've got higher ed, biotech, and whatever scraps of banking New York allows you to retain. Those are good industries for sure but people with real ambition unlike me or thee go to New York or the West Coast after graduation. So maybe work on yourselves.

Um, you obviously don’t know anyone who works in the computer industry…ever hear of Route 128?


I used to work at a software startup in the 128 corridor. As a tech scene it's okay, but nothing to rival silicon valley or even Austin or Seattle.

Name a better computer industry place on the east coast. I did not say it is Silicon Valley, but high tech is still a big industry in the Boston area, contrary to previous poster’s assertion. Duh.


Best computer industry place on the East Coast.

Most prestigious community college.

Most virtuous Kardashian sister.
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Anonymous wrote:The smartest overall peer groups are in the Northeast + Stanford. That’s why.


No, the smartest are at Caltech.


Everyone brings up cal tech as a flex. It's tiny. New England has smart college students in extremely high numbers and density. There are multiplier effects to that which Caltech can't match.
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I would like to send my children to school in an area that votes for science and education, not against.
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Anonymous wrote:What’s with the hostility to the South? There are opportunities here. Certain pockets of Atlanta, Charlotte, Miami aren’t so different or “under-advantaged” from what’s available to kids in the Northeast. Southern mom here.


There are a handful of schools in the south that are world class: Duke, Emory, Vanderbilt, Rice, U-texas, WashU, UNC - but after that, it falls off a cliff reputationally, very quickly.



Maybe PP is just lumping backwards shthole states together.
How did St. Louis move from the midwest to the south? If someone asked you to name southern cities, would anyone mention St. Louis?

Also, Virginians, you live in the south. You don’t live in the northeast. People from the northeast, when they hear from you otherwise, are laughing at you.

So really the question is, “Why do southerners like me look to New England for college?”


No sht. VA/DC sucks.
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Anonymous wrote:New Englander by birth and education, Virginian by the grace of God here. This whole thread seems designed to make New Englanders look like petty provincial snobs. DC is a one horse town (gov) but Boston is only a little better: you've got higher ed, biotech, and whatever scraps of banking New York allows you to retain. Those are good industries for sure but people with real ambition unlike me or thee go to New York or the West Coast after graduation. So maybe work on yourselves.

Um, you obviously don’t know anyone who works in the computer industry…ever hear of Route 128?


I used to work at a software startup in the 128 corridor. As a tech scene it's okay, but nothing to rival silicon valley or even Austin or Seattle.

Name a better computer industry place on the east coast. I did not say it is Silicon Valley, but high tech is still a big industry in the Boston area, contrary to previous poster’s assertion. Duh.


DP. Not particularly for start ups but doesn't DMV beat everyone else in terms of IT Employment? we beat Silicon Valley like 15 years ago. The startup money and glamour is Silicon Valley but employment numbers are still DMV.

And to address the thread; the reason NE has a large number of schools is because that's where the population hub used to be. The original schools in Massachusetts were primarily for religious education that includes Harvard. While the South tried to create "Southern Gentlemen". Only reason Princeton was created was because it's half way between Harvard and W&M. It's really interesting on the origin stories of all the schools in NE and old South.

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Anonymous wrote:Because a lot of moms here want to be cool enough to be Needham or even Wellesley Moms, but instead, they reside on swamplands.
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Boston mom here. Dcum are the wannabes


And yet here you are…on DCUM.

I think there are people, like myself, that wouldn’t mind living in NYC. But it’s laughable to think anyone here covets Boston. Very few people here even think about NE - never mind want to live there. But this provincial thinking is common there; I was the same until I left NE and went to college in the South.

I would never consider living in Boston and I own a summer home in MA and don’t even like DC that much…

But to get back on topic, New England has 1/2 the ivies and more than 1/2 of the top liberal arts schools. It’s just a fact that New England private colleges are some of the best and are discussed on a board full of wealthy people.

Pp
Yeah sure, very few people here even think about the Northeast... I'll believe that when they stop talking about it


Reading comprehension is your friend. DCUM wants to send their kids to elite New England schools. They don’t want to live there.

A couple of posters said DCUM moms wished they were moms from Wellesley (lol) and were “wannabes” who wished they lived in New England. No one in DC aspires to live in Boston, never mind the sleepy suburbs there. It just isn’t a thing - people don’t think about NE unless it’s for college.


I would much rather live in Boston over DC if I had to pick East Coast.

DC is a shthole.


DC is by far the most beautiful city in America
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Anonymous wrote:The smartest overall peer groups are in the Northeast + Stanford. That’s why.


No, the smartest are at Caltech.


Everyone brings up cal tech as a flex. It's tiny. New England has smart college students in extremely high numbers and density. There are multiplier effects to that which Caltech can't match.

Not really. All the top colleges in New England are minuscule. Also the state schools suck.
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Anonymous wrote:New Englander by birth and education, Virginian by the grace of God here. This whole thread seems designed to make New Englanders look like petty provincial snobs. DC is a one horse town (gov) but Boston is only a little better: you've got higher ed, biotech, and whatever scraps of banking New York allows you to retain. Those are good industries for sure but people with real ambition unlike me or thee go to New York or the West Coast after graduation. So maybe work on yourselves.

Um, you obviously don’t know anyone who works in the computer industry…ever hear of Route 128?


I used to work at a software startup in the 128 corridor. As a tech scene it's okay, but nothing to rival silicon valley or even Austin or Seattle.

Name a better computer industry place on the east coast. I did not say it is Silicon Valley, but high tech is still a big industry in the Boston area, contrary to previous poster’s assertion. Duh.


DP. Not particularly for start ups but doesn't DMV beat everyone else in terms of IT Employment? we beat Silicon Valley like 15 years ago. The startup money and glamour is Silicon Valley but employment numbers are still DMV.

And to address the thread; the reason NE has a large number of schools is because that's where the population hub used to be. The original schools in Massachusetts were primarily for religious education that includes Harvard. While the South tried to create "Southern Gentlemen". Only reason Princeton was created was because it's half way between Harvard and W&M. It's really interesting on the origin stories of all the schools in NE and old South.


IT isn’t tech work…and also no source indicates IT jobs are concentrated anywhere higher than SF.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The smartest overall peer groups are in the Northeast + Stanford. That’s why.


No, the smartest are at Caltech.


Everyone brings up cal tech as a flex. It's tiny. New England has smart college students in extremely high numbers and density. There are multiplier effects to that which Caltech can't match.

Not really. All the top colleges in New England are minuscule. Also the state schools suck.


The state schools do suck, and that's one reason I don't live there anymore, but the rest of your post is sour grapes. College students are almost a quarter the population of Boston proper - Cambridge is probably even higher. Network effects are real. New England has good (private) schools of all sizes, and lots of them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The smartest overall peer groups are in the Northeast + Stanford. That’s why.


No, the smartest are at Caltech.


Everyone brings up cal tech as a flex. It's tiny. New England has smart college students in extremely high numbers and density. There are multiplier effects to that which Caltech can't match.

Not really. All the top colleges in New England are minuscule. Also the state schools suck.


The state schools do suck, and that's one reason I don't live there anymore, but the rest of your post is sour grapes. College students are almost a quarter the population of Boston proper - Cambridge is probably even higher. Network effects are real. New England has good (private) schools of all sizes, and lots of them.

I don’t think it’s ridiculous to claim that most of the best colleges in New England are small- or at least, have small undergraduate populations.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The smartest overall peer groups are in the Northeast + Stanford. That’s why.


No, the smartest are at Caltech.


Everyone brings up cal tech as a flex. It's tiny. New England has smart college students in extremely high numbers and density. There are multiplier effects to that which Caltech can't match.

Not really. All the top colleges in New England are minuscule. Also the state schools suck.


The state schools in NE suck? That is just an ignorant statement. The schools are all excellent but they focus on educating the regional population without a need to try and keep the best students in state because they already have private schools which fill that need. They have a large group of elite private schools so they aren't trying to fill that gap unlike most other states. You might want to think before you type.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The smartest overall peer groups are in the Northeast + Stanford. That’s why.


No, the smartest are at Caltech.


Everyone brings up cal tech as a flex. It's tiny. New England has smart college students in extremely high numbers and density. There are multiplier effects to that which Caltech can't match.

Not really. All the top colleges in New England are minuscule. Also the state schools suck.


The state schools do suck, and that's one reason I don't live there anymore, but the rest of your post is sour grapes. College students are almost a quarter the population of Boston proper - Cambridge is probably even higher. Network effects are real. New England has good (private) schools of all sizes, and lots of them.


They don't suck, quit feeding the whiner.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:New Englander by birth and education, Virginian by the grace of God here. This whole thread seems designed to make New Englanders look like petty provincial snobs. DC is a one horse town (gov) but Boston is only a little better: you've got higher ed, biotech, and whatever scraps of banking New York allows you to retain. Those are good industries for sure but people with real ambition unlike me or thee go to New York or the West Coast after graduation. So maybe work on yourselves.

Um, you obviously don’t know anyone who works in the computer industry…ever hear of Route 128?


I used to work at a software startup in the 128 corridor. As a tech scene it's okay, but nothing to rival silicon valley or even Austin or Seattle.

Name a better computer industry place on the east coast. I did not say it is Silicon Valley, but high tech is still a big industry in the Boston area, contrary to previous poster’s assertion. Duh.


DP. Not particularly for start ups but doesn't DMV beat everyone else in terms of IT Employment? we beat Silicon Valley like 15 years ago. The startup money and glamour is Silicon Valley but employment numbers are still DMV.

And to address the thread; the reason NE has a large number of schools is because that's where the population hub used to be. The original schools in Massachusetts were primarily for religious education that includes Harvard. While the South tried to create "Southern Gentlemen". Only reason Princeton was created was because it's half way between Harvard and W&M. It's really interesting on the origin stories of all the schools in NE and old South.


IT isn’t tech work…and also no source indicates IT jobs are concentrated anywhere higher than SF.


I remember it was a few years ago. But #2 isn't bad - I guess SF picked up. "The D.C. Metro area is the most concentrated tech talent market in the country after San Francisco, with tech positions representing 8.3 percent of all jobs in the region (second to the Bay Area’s 10.5%). "
https://techcrunch.com/sponsor/fairfax-county-economic-development-authority/americas-most-livable-tech-hub-why-northern-virginia-should-be-on-your-radar/

And it is shifting (more job openings) partially due to women entrepreneurs:
https://www.itbrew.com/stories/2023/03/27/east-coast-cities-overtaking-silicon-valley-for-tech-job-hotspots
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:New Englander by birth and education, Virginian by the grace of God here. This whole thread seems designed to make New Englanders look like petty provincial snobs. DC is a one horse town (gov) but Boston is only a little better: you've got higher ed, biotech, and whatever scraps of banking New York allows you to retain. Those are good industries for sure but people with real ambition unlike me or thee go to New York or the West Coast after graduation. So maybe work on yourselves.

Um, you obviously don’t know anyone who works in the computer industry…ever hear of Route 128?


I used to work at a software startup in the 128 corridor. As a tech scene it's okay, but nothing to rival silicon valley or even Austin or Seattle.

Name a better computer industry place on the east coast. I did not say it is Silicon Valley, but high tech is still a big industry in the Boston area, contrary to previous poster’s assertion. Duh.


DP. Not particularly for start ups but doesn't DMV beat everyone else in terms of IT Employment? we beat Silicon Valley like 15 years ago. The startup money and glamour is Silicon Valley but employment numbers are still DMV.

And to address the thread; the reason NE has a large number of schools is because that's where the population hub used to be. The original schools in Massachusetts were primarily for religious education that includes Harvard. While the South tried to create "Southern Gentlemen". Only reason Princeton was created was because it's half way between Harvard and W&M. It's really interesting on the origin stories of all the schools in NE and old South.


IT isn’t tech work…and also no source indicates IT jobs are concentrated anywhere higher than SF.


I remember it was a few years ago. But #2 isn't bad - I guess SF picked up. "The D.C. Metro area is the most concentrated tech talent market in the country after San Francisco, with tech positions representing 8.3 percent of all jobs in the region (second to the Bay Area’s 10.5%). "
https://techcrunch.com/sponsor/fairfax-county-economic-development-authority/americas-most-livable-tech-hub-why-northern-virginia-should-be-on-your-radar/

And it is shifting (more job openings) partially due to women entrepreneurs:
https://www.itbrew.com/stories/2023/03/27/east-coast-cities-overtaking-silicon-valley-for-tech-job-hotspots


I'm in tech in the bay area. I travel for work on occasion to the DC Metro area. I hate to break it to you but the DC Metro isn't ever part of the conversation when it comes to tech. What you call tech the rest of us call IT with the exception of some Datacenter and Telecom work. You can find tech in NYC, Austin, and Boston along with a bit in Denver and Dallas but not DC.
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