What's with the New England Bias? This is DC urban mom, not Boston (BUM)

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Anonymous wrote:New Englander by birth and education, Virginian by the grace of God here. This whole thread seems designed to make New Englanders look like petty provincial snobs. DC is a one horse town (gov) but Boston is only a little better: you've got higher ed, biotech, and whatever scraps of banking New York allows you to retain. Those are good industries for sure but people with real ambition unlike me or thee go to New York or the West Coast after graduation. So maybe work on yourselves.

Um, you obviously don’t know anyone who works in the computer industry…ever hear of Route 128?

I used to work at a software startup in the 128 corridor. As a tech scene it's okay, but nothing to rival silicon valley or even Austin or Seattle.

Name a better computer industry place on the east coast. I did not say it is Silicon Valley, but high tech is still a big industry in the Boston area, contrary to previous poster’s assertion. Duh.

DP. Not particularly for start ups but doesn't DMV beat everyone else in terms of IT Employment? we beat Silicon Valley like 15 years ago. The startup money and glamour is Silicon Valley but employment numbers are still DMV.

And to address the thread; the reason NE has a large number of schools is because that's where the population hub used to be. The original schools in Massachusetts were primarily for religious education that includes Harvard. While the South tried to create "Southern Gentlemen". Only reason Princeton was created was because it's half way between Harvard and W&M. It's really interesting on the origin stories of all the schools in NE and old South.

IT isn’t tech work…and also no source indicates IT jobs are concentrated anywhere higher than SF.

I remember it was a few years ago. But #2 isn't bad - I guess SF picked up. "The D.C. Metro area is the most concentrated tech talent market in the country after San Francisco, with tech positions representing 8.3 percent of all jobs in the region (second to the Bay Area’s 10.5%). "
https://techcrunch.com/sponsor/fairfax-county-economic-development-authority/americas-most-livable-tech-hub-why-northern-virginia-should-be-on-your-radar/

And it is shifting (more job openings) partially due to women entrepreneurs:
https://www.itbrew.com/stories/2023/03/27/east-coast-cities-overtaking-silicon-valley-for-tech-job-hotspots

I'm in tech in the bay area. I travel for work on occasion to the DC Metro area. I hate to break it to you but the DC Metro isn't ever part of the conversation when it comes to tech. What you call tech the rest of us call IT with the exception of some Datacenter and Telecom work. You can find tech in NYC, Austin, and Boston along with a bit in Denver and Dallas but not DC.

Thank you for confirming what anyone in the computer industry knows: Boston has a high tech economy. You DC folks are so ignorant.

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Anonymous wrote:New Englander by birth and education, Virginian by the grace of God here. This whole thread seems designed to make New Englanders look like petty provincial snobs. DC is a one horse town (gov) but Boston is only a little better: you've got higher ed, biotech, and whatever scraps of banking New York allows you to retain. Those are good industries for sure but people with real ambition unlike me or thee go to New York or the West Coast after graduation. So maybe work on yourselves.

Um, you obviously don’t know anyone who works in the computer industry…ever hear of Route 128?

I used to work at a software startup in the 128 corridor. As a tech scene it's okay, but nothing to rival silicon valley or even Austin or Seattle.

Name a better computer industry place on the east coast. I did not say it is Silicon Valley, but high tech is still a big industry in the Boston area, contrary to previous poster’s assertion. Duh.

Best computer industry place on the East Coast.

Most prestigious community college.

Most virtuous Kardashian sister.

Like Deep Springs?

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Anonymous wrote:New Englander by birth and education, Virginian by the grace of God here. This whole thread seems designed to make New Englanders look like petty provincial snobs. DC is a one horse town (gov) but Boston is only a little better: you've got higher ed, biotech, and whatever scraps of banking New York allows you to retain. Those are good industries for sure but people with real ambition unlike me or thee go to New York or the West Coast after graduation. So maybe work on yourselves.

Um, you obviously don’t know anyone who works in the computer industry…ever hear of Route 128?

I used to work at a software startup in the 128 corridor. As a tech scene it's okay, but nothing to rival silicon valley or even Austin or Seattle.

Name a better computer industry place on the east coast. I did not say it is Silicon Valley, but high tech is still a big industry in the Boston area, contrary to previous poster’s assertion. Duh.

DP. Not particularly for start ups but doesn't DMV beat everyone else in terms of IT Employment? we beat Silicon Valley like 15 years ago. The startup money and glamour is Silicon Valley but employment numbers are still DMV.

And to address the thread; the reason NE has a large number of schools is because that's where the population hub used to be. The original schools in Massachusetts were primarily for religious education that includes Harvard. While the South tried to create "Southern Gentlemen". Only reason Princeton was created was because it's half way between Harvard and W&M. It's really interesting on the origin stories of all the schools in NE and old South.

IT isn’t tech work…and also no source indicates IT jobs are concentrated anywhere higher than SF.

I remember it was a few years ago. But #2 isn't bad - I guess SF picked up. "The D.C. Metro area is the most concentrated tech talent market in the country after San Francisco, with tech positions representing 8.3 percent of all jobs in the region (second to the Bay Area’s 10.5%). "
https://techcrunch.com/sponsor/fairfax-county-economic-development-authority/americas-most-livable-tech-hub-why-northern-virginia-should-be-on-your-radar/

And it is shifting (more job openings) partially due to women entrepreneurs:
https://www.itbrew.com/stories/2023/03/27/east-coast-cities-overtaking-silicon-valley-for-tech-job-hotspots

I'm in tech in the bay area. I travel for work on occasion to the DC Metro area. I hate to break it to you but the DC Metro isn't ever part of the conversation when it comes to tech. What you call tech the rest of us call IT with the exception of some Datacenter and Telecom work. You can find tech in NYC, Austin, and Boston along with a bit in Denver and Dallas but not DC.

Defense tech is starting to grow quite a bit, though that is also largely based out of Hawthorne/El Segundo near LA right now.

Honestly, it's SF, NYC and Boston...every other location is no better than DC. Austin is increasingly becoming a joke as everyone who moved there thinking it would become the next great tech hub, is moving back to SF because Austin sucks as a place to live and AI is all happening in SF/SV.

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Anonymous wrote:New Englander by birth and education, Virginian by the grace of God here. This whole thread seems designed to make New Englanders look like petty provincial snobs. DC is a one horse town (gov) but Boston is only a little better: you've got higher ed, biotech, and whatever scraps of banking New York allows you to retain. Those are good industries for sure but people with real ambition unlike me or thee go to New York or the West Coast after graduation. So maybe work on yourselves.

You forget Hospital capital of the US with five level 1 trauma centers, as well as one of the top cancer hospitals and one of the top pediatric hospitals.

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Anonymous wrote:New Englander by birth and education, Virginian by the grace of God here. This whole thread seems designed to make New Englanders look like petty provincial snobs. DC is a one horse town (gov) but Boston is only a little better: you've got higher ed, biotech, and whatever scraps of banking New York allows you to retain. Those are good industries for sure but people with real ambition unlike me or thee go to New York or the West Coast after graduation. So maybe work on yourselves.

Um, you obviously don’t know anyone who works in the computer industry…ever hear of Route 128?

I used to work at a software startup in the 128 corridor. As a tech scene it's okay, but nothing to rival silicon valley or even Austin or Seattle.

Name a better computer industry place on the east coast. I did not say it is Silicon Valley, but high tech is still a big industry in the Boston area, contrary to previous poster’s assertion. Duh.

DP. Not particularly for start ups but doesn't DMV beat everyone else in terms of IT Employment? we beat Silicon Valley like 15 years ago. The startup money and glamour is Silicon Valley but employment numbers are still DMV.

And to address the thread; the reason NE has a large number of schools is because that's where the population hub used to be. The original schools in Massachusetts were primarily for religious education that includes Harvard. While the South tried to create "Southern Gentlemen". Only reason Princeton was created was because it's half way between Harvard and W&M. It's really interesting on the origin stories of all the schools in NE and old South.

IT isn’t tech work…and also no source indicates IT jobs are concentrated anywhere higher than SF.

I remember it was a few years ago. But #2 isn't bad - I guess SF picked up. "The D.C. Metro area is the most concentrated tech talent market in the country after San Francisco, with tech positions representing 8.3 percent of all jobs in the region (second to the Bay Area’s 10.5%). "
https://techcrunch.com/sponsor/fairfax-county-economic-development-authority/americas-most-livable-tech-hub-why-northern-virginia-should-be-on-your-radar/

And it is shifting (more job openings) partially due to women entrepreneurs:
https://www.itbrew.com/stories/2023/03/27/east-coast-cities-overtaking-silicon-valley-for-tech-job-hotspots

I'm in tech in the bay area. I travel for work on occasion to the DC Metro area. I hate to break it to you but the DC Metro isn't ever part of the conversation when it comes to tech. What you call tech the rest of us call IT with the exception of some Datacenter and Telecom work. You can find tech in NYC, Austin, and Boston along with a bit in Denver and Dallas but not DC.

Defense tech is starting to grow quite a bit, though that is also largely based out of Hawthorne/El Segundo near LA right now.

Honestly, it's SF, NYC and Boston...every other location is no better than DC. Austin is increasingly becoming a joke as everyone who moved there thinking it would become the next great tech hub, is moving back to SF because Austin sucks as a place to live and AI is all happening in SF/SV.

I did neglect the SOCal, there is some silicon down there as well as the defense stuff and a bit of Pharmaceuticals as well. And yes, Austin is losing stuff back to SV or even Dallas if they are trying to stay out of CA. Austin is pretty miserable.

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Anonymous wrote:New Englander by birth and education, Virginian by the grace of God here. This whole thread seems designed to make New Englanders look like petty provincial snobs. DC is a one horse town (gov) but Boston is only a little better: you've got higher ed, biotech, and whatever scraps of banking New York allows you to retain. Those are good industries for sure but people with real ambition unlike me or thee go to New York or the West Coast after graduation. So maybe work on yourselves.

Um, you obviously don’t know anyone who works in the computer industry…ever hear of Route 128?

I used to work at a software startup in the 128 corridor. As a tech scene it's okay, but nothing to rival silicon valley or even Austin or Seattle.

Name a better computer industry place on the east coast. I did not say it is Silicon Valley, but high tech is still a big industry in the Boston area, contrary to previous poster’s assertion. Duh.

DP. Not particularly for start ups but doesn't DMV beat everyone else in terms of IT Employment? we beat Silicon Valley like 15 years ago. The startup money and glamour is Silicon Valley but employment numbers are still DMV.

And to address the thread; the reason NE has a large number of schools is because that's where the population hub used to be. The original schools in Massachusetts were primarily for religious education that includes Harvard. While the South tried to create "Southern Gentlemen". Only reason Princeton was created was because it's half way between Harvard and W&M. It's really interesting on the origin stories of all the schools in NE and old South.

IT isn’t tech work…and also no source indicates IT jobs are concentrated anywhere higher than SF.

I remember it was a few years ago. But #2 isn't bad - I guess SF picked up. "The D.C. Metro area is the most concentrated tech talent market in the country after San Francisco, with tech positions representing 8.3 percent of all jobs in the region (second to the Bay Area’s 10.5%). "
https://techcrunch.com/sponsor/fairfax-county-economic-development-authority/americas-most-livable-tech-hub-why-northern-virginia-should-be-on-your-radar/

And it is shifting (more job openings) partially due to women entrepreneurs:
https://www.itbrew.com/stories/2023/03/27/east-coast-cities-overtaking-silicon-valley-for-tech-job-hotspots

I'm in tech in the bay area. I travel for work on occasion to the DC Metro area. I hate to break it to you but the DC Metro isn't ever part of the conversation when it comes to tech. What you call tech the rest of us call IT with the exception of some Datacenter and Telecom work. You can find tech in NYC, Austin, and Boston along with a bit in Denver and Dallas but not DC.

Defense tech is starting to grow quite a bit, though that is also largely based out of Hawthorne/El Segundo near LA right now.

Honestly, it's SF, NYC and Boston...every other location is no better than DC. Austin is increasingly becoming a joke as everyone who moved there thinking it would become the next great tech hub, is moving back to SF because Austin sucks as a place to live and AI is all happening in SF/SV.

I did neglect the SOCal, there is some silicon down there as well as the defense stuff and a bit of Pharmaceuticals as well. And yes, Austin is losing stuff back to SV or even Dallas if they are trying to stay out of CA. Austin is pretty miserable.

Pretty much all of Texas sucks…I don’t think anyone is going to Dallas. Heck, even the MAGA influencers are moving back to CA because LA is still the media/entertainment capitol and everyone agrees you absolutely can’t beat SoCal weather and the lifestyle.

This is why it’s always a joke when random places are considered the new New York or SV or LA…there are no new or better versions…just poor stepchildren.

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Anonymous wrote:New Englander by birth and education, Virginian by the grace of God here. This whole thread seems designed to make New Englanders look like petty provincial snobs. DC is a one horse town (gov) but Boston is only a little better: you've got higher ed, biotech, and whatever scraps of banking New York allows you to retain. Those are good industries for sure but people with real ambition unlike me or thee go to New York or the West Coast after graduation. So maybe work on yourselves.

You forget Hospital capital of the US with five level 1 trauma centers, as well as one of the top cancer hospitals and one of the top pediatric hospitals.

Agreed. This PP New Englander is wrong on so many levels they sound like a “petty provincial snob.” I can only hope this is not a real New Englander, that is, someone who grew up in the New York Yankee catchment area of Connecticut. That would explain a lot.

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Anonymous wrote:What’s with the hostility to the South? There are opportunities here. Certain pockets of Atlanta, Charlotte, Miami aren’t so different or “under-advantaged” from what’s available to kids in the Northeast. Southern mom here.

There are a handful of schools in the south that are world class: Duke, Emory, Vanderbilt, Rice, U-texas, WashU, UNC - but after that, it falls off a cliff reputationally, very quickly.

Maybe PP is just lumping backwards shthole states together.
How did St. Louis move from the midwest to the south? If someone asked you to name southern cities, would anyone mention St. Louis?

Also, Virginians, you live in the south. You don’t live in the northeast. People from the northeast, when they hear from you otherwise, are laughing at you.

So really the question is, “Why do southerners like me look to New England for college?”

The question for you is: why are YOU here —on DCUM?

Responses like this are so juvenile and lack self awareness.

You: “We laugh at you..”
Also You: “I post on here all the time.”

I grew up in New England, all my family lives there, and I own property there. No one says stuff like this unless they are an insecure middle class striver trying to feel better about themselves. How embarrassing you are.

Let’s just say that you neither sound nor write like you are from New England: you relocated to the right place.

What? I don't sound like a big enough Ma$$hole?

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Anonymous wrote:New Englander by birth and education, Virginian by the grace of God here. This whole thread seems designed to make New Englanders look like petty provincial snobs. DC is a one horse town (gov) but Boston is only a little better: you've got higher ed, biotech, and whatever scraps of banking New York allows you to retain. Those are good industries for sure but people with real ambition unlike me or thee go to New York or the West Coast after graduation. So maybe work on yourselves.

Oh, the irony! This sounds about white. Chocolate City and the capital city of one of the most powerful countries in the world with a sizable international population is not a “one horse town.” Your attitude indicates exactly why you love the South and Boston so much.

If you’re looking for a good place to start a career as a black person, ATL is right there screaming your name. Even Chicago tbh, but DC sucks for black professionals.

Washington, DC is regularly listed as one of the best cities for black professionals. Do you even live in the area? Charles County and PG has the richest black population in the country.

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Anonymous wrote:The smartest overall peer groups are in the Northeast + Stanford. That’s why.

No, the smartest are at Caltech.

Everyone brings up cal tech as a flex. It's tiny. New England has smart college students in extremely high numbers and density. There are multiplier effects to that which Caltech can't match.

Not really. All the top colleges in New England are minuscule. Also the state schools suck.

The state schools in NE suck? That is just an ignorant statement. The schools are all excellent but they focus on educating the regional population without a need to try and keep the best students in state because they already have private schools which fill that need. They have a large group of elite private schools so they aren't trying to fill that gap unlike most other states. You might want to think before you type.

That’s a good description of the state schools and really what they should be.

Other states lacking in quality K-12 public schools have huge public universities and depend on out of state students to fill the seats.

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Anonymous wrote:Because a lot of moms here want to be cool enough to be Needham or even Wellesley Moms, but instead, they reside on swamplands.

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Boston mom here. Dcum are the wannabes

And yet here you are…on DCUM.

I think there are people, like myself, that wouldn’t mind living in NYC. But it’s laughable to think anyone here covets Boston. Very few people here even think about NE - never mind want to live there. But this provincial thinking is common there; I was the same until I left NE and went to college in the South.

I would never consider living in Boston and I own a summer home in MA and don’t even like DC that much…

But to get back on topic, New England has 1/2 the ivies and more than 1/2 of the top liberal arts schools. It’s just a fact that New England private colleges are some of the best and are discussed on a board full of wealthy people.

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Yeah sure, very few people here even think about the Northeast... I'll believe that when they stop talking about it

Reading comprehension is your friend. DCUM wants to send their kids to elite New England schools. They don’t want to live there.

A couple of posters said DCUM moms wished they were moms from Wellesley (lol) and were “wannabes” who wished they lived in New England. No one in DC aspires to live in Boston, never mind the sleepy suburbs there. It just isn’t a thing - people don’t think about NE unless it’s for college.

I would much rather live in Boston over DC if I had to pick East Coast.

DC is a shthole.

DC is by far the most beautiful city in America

Not sure if I'd even put it in the top 10.

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Anonymous wrote:There are some good schools in other areas, but the NE just has far more. Many people have a distaste for south so that factors in too. The Midwest seems to be getting more popular lately.

Distaste? You meant blatant bias.

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Anonymous wrote:Way too many outsiders have ruined this website.

DC is a transient town. Are you a native Washingtonian yourself? I was, but moved away. There are a lot of us out there.

+100

I was raised here, but both sides of the family are New Englanders. All my cousins, grandparents, aunts/uncles are-were in Connecticut. Both my parents born and raised there. My older siblings were born in Boston.
We were the transplant family. My kids only wanted to go north or Cali.

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Anonymous wrote: :lol: Just noticed the this forum continuously highly overrates new England colleges compared to every other institution. It doesn't make much sense to me, because Virginia is not in New England, and it just seems strange that so many people find New England the standard. Any thoughts?

Maybe because they are the oldest in the country and well endowed and many of the best—Harvard, MIT, Yale, Williams, Amherst. It’s not overrated.

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Anonymous wrote:New Englander by birth and education, Virginian by the grace of God here. This whole thread seems designed to make New Englanders look like petty provincial snobs. DC is a one horse town (gov) but Boston is only a little better: you've got higher ed, biotech, and whatever scraps of banking New York allows you to retain. Those are good industries for sure but people with real ambition unlike me or thee go to New York or the West Coast after graduation. So maybe work on yourselves.

Um, you obviously don’t know anyone who works in the computer industry…ever hear of Route 128?

I used to work at a software startup in the 128 corridor. As a tech scene it's okay, but nothing to rival silicon valley or even Austin or Seattle.

Name a better computer industry place on the east coast. I did not say it is Silicon Valley, but high tech is still a big industry in the Boston area, contrary to previous poster’s assertion. Duh.

DP. Not particularly for start ups but doesn't DMV beat everyone else in terms of IT Employment? we beat Silicon Valley like 15 years ago. The startup money and glamour is Silicon Valley but employment numbers are still DMV.

And to address the thread; the reason NE has a large number of schools is because that's where the population hub used to be. The original schools in Massachusetts were primarily for religious education that includes Harvard. While the South tried to create "Southern Gentlemen". Only reason Princeton was created was because it's half way between Harvard and W&M. It's really interesting on the origin stories of all the schools in NE and old South.

IT isn’t tech work…and also no source indicates IT jobs are concentrated anywhere higher than SF.

I remember it was a few years ago. But #2 isn't bad - I guess SF picked up. "The D.C. Metro area is the most concentrated tech talent market in the country after San Francisco, with tech positions representing 8.3 percent of all jobs in the region (second to the Bay Area’s 10.5%). "
https://techcrunch.com/sponsor/fairfax-county-economic-development-authority/americas-most-livable-tech-hub-why-northern-virginia-should-be-on-your-radar/

And it is shifting (more job openings) partially due to women entrepreneurs:
https://www.itbrew.com/stories/2023/03/27/east-coast-cities-overtaking-silicon-valley-for-tech-job-hotspots

I'm in tech in the bay area. I travel for work on occasion to the DC Metro area. I hate to break it to you but the DC Metro isn't ever part of the conversation when it comes to tech. What you call tech the rest of us call IT with the exception of some Datacenter and Telecom work. You can find tech in NYC, Austin, and Boston along with a bit in Denver and Dallas but not DC.

Defense tech is starting to grow quite a bit, though that is also largely based out of Hawthorne/El Segundo near LA right now.

Honestly, it's SF, NYC and Boston...every other location is no better than DC. Austin is increasingly becoming a joke as everyone who moved there thinking it would become the next great tech hub, is moving back to SF because Austin sucks as a place to live and AI is all happening in SF/SV.

Austin is not a joke, you dolt.