As and Bs in AP course but 2s and 3s on tests

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Anonymous wrote:Why would the scores be so low? Something doesn't add up here.

If you took the AP course and paid attention that should be an automatic 4 without studying.

Just stop with the arrogance.

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone on this thread sounds too defensive.

Not all public schools are equal. Many have grade inflation and are not rigorous. Some are very rigorous, have high competition, and are not grade inflation. There are no generalizations you can make by using the word "public school".

Not all private/independent schools are equal. Several are not rigorous and do have grade inflation. Others are extremely rigorous and screen applicants for admission in 9th grade and do not inflate grades. So you can't generalize across privates either.

It's better to use "grade-inflating schools" (combo of public and private) and "non-grade-inflating schools" (combo of public and private).

The very selective, highly sought and rigorous private and public high schools in the US (you will know if your kid is at one) do not inflate.

Getting 5s on AP tests put you at around the top 10-15ile of test-takers in the US, similar to getting a 1300 or above on the SAT.

If your student gets As on the AP class and only a 2-3 AP score on the AP test that was created for that course and you did in fact study and try, it's possible you're at a grade inflating school (could be publlic or private).

If your student gets A/A-/B+ on the AP class and 5 on the AP test, your school is probably grading them appropriately and it's not grade inflated (could be public or private).

I think sadly, there is likely one generalization that applies to most public schools across the entire country. Under-funded. Or in the case of Moco, misdirection of funds.

In constant 2022–23 dollars, public schools in the United States spent an average of $18,614 per pupil in 2020–21, which represents an increase from $12,206 per pupil in 1990. Public schools in the US aren’t underfunded; they’re funded better than they have ever been.

As the pp stated, it's mostly misdirected funding.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would the scores be so low? Something doesn't add up here.

If you took the AP course and paid attention that should be an automatic 4 without studying.

Massive grade inflation. I know schools where AP courses aren't at all rigorous.

Teacher here. My colleagues and I would never be allowed to give lower than a B- for AP classes, and if the student has "important parents", that student will have As.

This means that a student getting an A or B in an AP course at my school might get a 4 or 5 on the exam, or they might get a 1 or 2.

I am sure college admissions are aware. Grade inflation is extremely common in private schools.

What private school? Not the case at my daughter's school. Grade inflation is more of a factor in public schools.

Can you cite a source for your uninformed opinion? Public schools have much more standardized testing to keep them honest, and far fewer highly demanding parents to bully teachers into giving their mediocre rich kids As.

This is not an opinion lol. It is a fact. And private schools are known for grade deflation, so maybe you need to do more research.

MCPS is a perfect example. One of the largest school systems in the country. This article from 2022 lays it out pretty clearly. And know that they haven't changed anything since then, but over the summer there has apparently been a rehaul to address the rampant inflation.

https://www.thechurchillobserver.com/online-exclusives/2022/12/06/high-schools-grading-system-should-it-be-changed/

Yes, that particular public school district has documented evidence of grade inflation that it is attempting to change by revamping its grading policy in the coming year. But you are saying that you have evidence that private schools have grade deflation relative to public schools? Please cite that evidence--because it just sounds like you're mouthing a bunch of stuff that people like to say because they're paying $40k a year plus for tuition, and not because you've actually seen data.

That "data" only exists in the made up land of "I believe it therefore it must be true" land of the DCUM private school board. There are plenty of crap privates in this area whose caliber of instruction is below that of the public schools, particularly for STEM subjects where they can't find qualified teachers for the lower salaries some privates pay teachers. My neighbor's kid at a Catholic school private is 2 years older than my kid and they were doing the same level math in elementary school.

Ooh, someone's been triggered lol.

Who cares what the Catholic school kid is doing in math. I am talking about high schools, and in particular the higher ranked high schools in the DMV. These schools don't inflate grades like public schools.

FWIW, my kid is taking AP Calc in 11th grade. Most take it in 12th. I personally don't see an issue with this mainly because this particular school tests kids before they place them in math (unlike public schools that just push them through with inflated grades). Kids in private schools are actually learning math vs. being awarded high grades in advanced classes they don't belong in.

This exactly. AP classes are strongly gatekept in private schools. Anyone can take an AP in public, which is why kids are getting poor AP scores even though they got As in the class.

dp.. I think the way public does it is better.

I'm a perfect example of that. I was a late bloomer. My public gatekept the AP classes. I had to beg to be allowed in APUSH and APEnglish. I got straight As while some who didn't have to beg to be let in the class did not. I did not find the class difficult at all. This was in the 80s.

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If you took the AP course and paid attention that should be an automatic 4 without studying.

Massive grade inflation. I know schools where AP courses aren't at all rigorous.

Teacher here. My colleagues and I would never be allowed to give lower than a B- for AP classes, and if the student has "important parents", that student will have As.

This means that a student getting an A or B in an AP course at my school might get a 4 or 5 on the exam, or they might get a 1 or 2.

I am sure college admissions are aware. Grade inflation is extremely common in private schools.

What private school? Not the case at my daughter's school. Grade inflation is more of a factor in public schools.

Can you cite a source for your uninformed opinion? Public schools have much more standardized testing to keep them honest, and far fewer highly demanding parents to bully teachers into giving their mediocre rich kids As.

This is not an opinion lol. It is a fact. And private schools are known for grade deflation, so maybe you need to do more research.

MCPS is a perfect example. One of the largest school systems in the country. This article from 2022 lays it out pretty clearly. And know that they haven't changed anything since then, but over the summer there has apparently been a rehaul to address the rampant inflation.

https://www.thechurchillobserver.com/online-exclusives/2022/12/06/high-schools-grading-system-should-it-be-changed/

Yes, that particular public school district has documented evidence of grade inflation that it is attempting to change by revamping its grading policy in the coming year. But you are saying that you have evidence that private schools have grade deflation relative to public schools? Please cite that evidence--because it just sounds like you're mouthing a bunch of stuff that people like to say because they're paying $40k a year plus for tuition, and not because you've actually seen data.

That "data" only exists in the made up land of "I believe it therefore it must be true" land of the DCUM private school board. There are plenty of crap privates in this area whose caliber of instruction is below that of the public schools, particularly for STEM subjects where they can't find qualified teachers for the lower salaries some privates pay teachers. My neighbor's kid at a Catholic school private is 2 years older than my kid and they were doing the same level math in elementary school.

Ooh, someone's been triggered lol.

Who cares what the Catholic school kid is doing in math. I am talking about high schools, and in particular the higher ranked high schools in the DMV. These schools don't inflate grades like public schools.

FWIW, my kid is taking AP Calc in 11th grade. Most take it in 12th. I personally don't see an issue with this mainly because this particular school tests kids before they place them in math (unlike public schools that just push them through with inflated grades). Kids in private schools are actually learning math vs. being awarded high grades in advanced classes they don't belong in.

I hate to break it to you but in the much maligned public schools, kids who are strong in math can take AP Calculus AB in 9th grade. The strongest can even take Calc BC. If you think that all these “poors” are getting 2s and 3s and don’t get 4s and 5s because public schools let “anyone” into these classes,?you’re in your own dreamworld where and should look at the school performance overviews that these schools publish that show distribution of AP scores by subject in a given year (public schools have far more transparency than private ones.)

LOL of course there are strong students in public schools. But there are more who are not doing well on these AP tests. The ones who are pushed to take AP Calc in 9th or 10th who just weren't ready and others. They pushed these kids too fast in math, they shouldn't be in AP classes, and it shows in their test scores. At Churchill High School (top MCPS HS) in 2024, 49 students got 2s and 3s on the AP Calc exam (out of 114 total students). Hardly a stellar showing with an overall pass rate of 71%. At my daughter's private (an all girls school that tends to be stronger in language arts rather than math), the pass rate was 85.3%. Nobody got lower than a 3 with 13% getting 3s, 47% getting 4s, and 40% getting 5s.

Churchill stats for reference:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QqKmEAGlfD41sBatGKBsCb4NZK4g-swQ/view

Math is not well taught in MCPS. For Calc, we got random worksheets pulled off an internet site. No textbook, no formal teaching and it was extremely hard to learn that way. I know a bunch of kids who are smart capable kids who didn't do great on the AP Calc test this year. They should be in AP classes, but the teaching style and curriculum needs to change.

Your private also has much smaller classes, fewer kids who take AP classes and many of those kids have tutors.

PP here and tell that to the other PP who claims that public schools outperform private schools in math and that private schools can't recruit good stem teachers because of the low salaries. LOL. Read the thread.

Like anything, it depends on the school.

My DC at a public had an amazing calc and mvc teacher. The teacher has a masters from an elite school. They just love to teach math, which I am grateful for. DC is a college senior, dual STEM major, including math (straight As). They said that teacher is still the best math teacher they've ever had.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would the scores be so low? Something doesn't add up here.

If you took the AP course and paid attention that should be an automatic 4 without studying.

Massive grade inflation. I know schools where AP courses aren't at all rigorous.

Teacher here. My colleagues and I would never be allowed to give lower than a B- for AP classes, and if the student has "important parents", that student will have As.

This means that a student getting an A or B in an AP course at my school might get a 4 or 5 on the exam, or they might get a 1 or 2.

I am sure college admissions are aware. Grade inflation is extremely common in private schools.

What private school? Not the case at my daughter's school. Grade inflation is more of a factor in public schools.

Can you cite a source for your uninformed opinion? Public schools have much more standardized testing to keep them honest, and far fewer highly demanding parents to bully teachers into giving their mediocre rich kids As.

This is not an opinion lol. It is a fact. And private schools are known for grade deflation, so maybe you need to do more research.

MCPS is a perfect example. One of the largest school systems in the country. This article from 2022 lays it out pretty clearly. And know that they haven't changed anything since then, but over the summer there has apparently been a rehaul to address the rampant inflation.

https://www.thechurchillobserver.com/online-exclusives/2022/12/06/high-schools-grading-system-should-it-be-changed/

Yes, that particular public school district has documented evidence of grade inflation that it is attempting to change by revamping its grading policy in the coming year. But you are saying that you have evidence that private schools have grade deflation relative to public schools? Please cite that evidence--because it just sounds like you're mouthing a bunch of stuff that people like to say because they're paying $40k a year plus for tuition, and not because you've actually seen data.

That "data" only exists in the made up land of "I believe it therefore it must be true" land of the DCUM private school board. There are plenty of crap privates in this area whose caliber of instruction is below that of the public schools, particularly for STEM subjects where they can't find qualified teachers for the lower salaries some privates pay teachers. My neighbor's kid at a Catholic school private is 2 years older than my kid and they were doing the same level math in elementary school.

Ooh, someone's been triggered lol.

Who cares what the Catholic school kid is doing in math. I am talking about high schools, and in particular the higher ranked high schools in the DMV. These schools don't inflate grades like public schools.

FWIW, my kid is taking AP Calc in 11th grade. Most take it in 12th. I personally don't see an issue with this mainly because this particular school tests kids before they place them in math (unlike public schools that just push them through with inflated grades). Kids in private schools are actually learning math vs. being awarded high grades in advanced classes they don't belong in.

This exactly. AP classes are strongly gatekept in private schools. Anyone can take an AP in public, which is why kids are getting poor AP scores even though they got As in the class.

dp.. I think the way public does it is better.

I'm a perfect example of that. I was a late bloomer. My public gatekept the AP classes. I had to beg to be allowed in APUSH and APEnglish. I got straight As while some who didn't have to beg to be let in the class did not. I did not find the class difficult at all. This was in the 80s.

Public school education has severely gotten worse since the 80s, so not sure this anecdotal example applies here.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would the scores be so low? Something doesn't add up here.

If you took the AP course and paid attention that should be an automatic 4 without studying.

Massive grade inflation. I know schools where AP courses aren't at all rigorous.

Teacher here. My colleagues and I would never be allowed to give lower than a B- for AP classes, and if the student has "important parents", that student will have As.

This means that a student getting an A or B in an AP course at my school might get a 4 or 5 on the exam, or they might get a 1 or 2.

I am sure college admissions are aware. Grade inflation is extremely common in private schools.

What private school? Not the case at my daughter's school. Grade inflation is more of a factor in public schools.

Can you cite a source for your uninformed opinion? Public schools have much more standardized testing to keep them honest, and far fewer highly demanding parents to bully teachers into giving their mediocre rich kids As.

This is not an opinion lol. It is a fact. And private schools are known for grade deflation, so maybe you need to do more research.

MCPS is a perfect example. One of the largest school systems in the country. This article from 2022 lays it out pretty clearly. And know that they haven't changed anything since then, but over the summer there has apparently been a rehaul to address the rampant inflation.

https://www.thechurchillobserver.com/online-exclusives/2022/12/06/high-schools-grading-system-should-it-be-changed/

Yes, that particular public school district has documented evidence of grade inflation that it is attempting to change by revamping its grading policy in the coming year. But you are saying that you have evidence that private schools have grade deflation relative to public schools? Please cite that evidence--because it just sounds like you're mouthing a bunch of stuff that people like to say because they're paying $40k a year plus for tuition, and not because you've actually seen data.

That "data" only exists in the made up land of "I believe it therefore it must be true" land of the DCUM private school board. There are plenty of crap privates in this area whose caliber of instruction is below that of the public schools, particularly for STEM subjects where they can't find qualified teachers for the lower salaries some privates pay teachers. My neighbor's kid at a Catholic school private is 2 years older than my kid and they were doing the same level math in elementary school.

Ooh, someone's been triggered lol.

Who cares what the Catholic school kid is doing in math. I am talking about high schools, and in particular the higher ranked high schools in the DMV. These schools don't inflate grades like public schools.

FWIW, my kid is taking AP Calc in 11th grade. Most take it in 12th. I personally don't see an issue with this mainly because this particular school tests kids before they place them in math (unlike public schools that just push them through with inflated grades). Kids in private schools are actually learning math vs. being awarded high grades in advanced classes they don't belong in.

This exactly. AP classes are strongly gatekept in private schools. Anyone can take an AP in public, which is why kids are getting poor AP scores even though they got As in the class.

dp.. I think the way public does it is better.

I'm a perfect example of that. I was a late bloomer. My public gatekept the AP classes. I had to beg to be allowed in APUSH and APEnglish. I got straight As while some who didn't have to beg to be let in the class did not. I did not find the class difficult at all. This was in the 80s.

I’m confused. PP said privates gatekeep APs, and you respond that you think publics do things better, but then give as your “perfect example” how your public gatekept APs and you think you did better because you had to beg to be let in. Aren’t you illustrating that schools that gatekeep (typically privates) are actually using a better system than those that don’t (often publics)?

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Anonymous wrote:Why would the scores be so low? Something doesn't add up here.

If you took the AP course and paid attention that should be an automatic 4 without studying.

Massive grade inflation. I know schools where AP courses aren't at all rigorous.

Teacher here. My colleagues and I would never be allowed to give lower than a B- for AP classes, and if the student has "important parents", that student will have As.

This means that a student getting an A or B in an AP course at my school might get a 4 or 5 on the exam, or they might get a 1 or 2.

I am sure college admissions are aware. Grade inflation is extremely common in private schools.

What private school? Not the case at my daughter's school. Grade inflation is more of a factor in public schools.

Can you cite a source for your uninformed opinion? Public schools have much more standardized testing to keep them honest, and far fewer highly demanding parents to bully teachers into giving their mediocre rich kids As.

This is not an opinion lol. It is a fact. And private schools are known for grade deflation, so maybe you need to do more research.

MCPS is a perfect example. One of the largest school systems in the country. This article from 2022 lays it out pretty clearly. And know that they haven't changed anything since then, but over the summer there has apparently been a rehaul to address the rampant inflation.

https://www.thechurchillobserver.com/online-exclusives/2022/12/06/high-schools-grading-system-should-it-be-changed/

Yes, that particular public school district has documented evidence of grade inflation that it is attempting to change by revamping its grading policy in the coming year. But you are saying that you have evidence that private schools have grade deflation relative to public schools? Please cite that evidence--because it just sounds like you're mouthing a bunch of stuff that people like to say because they're paying $40k a year plus for tuition, and not because you've actually seen data.

That "data" only exists in the made up land of "I believe it therefore it must be true" land of the DCUM private school board. There are plenty of crap privates in this area whose caliber of instruction is below that of the public schools, particularly for STEM subjects where they can't find qualified teachers for the lower salaries some privates pay teachers. My neighbor's kid at a Catholic school private is 2 years older than my kid and they were doing the same level math in elementary school.

Ooh, someone's been triggered lol.

Who cares what the Catholic school kid is doing in math. I am talking about high schools, and in particular the higher ranked high schools in the DMV. These schools don't inflate grades like public schools.

FWIW, my kid is taking AP Calc in 11th grade. Most take it in 12th. I personally don't see an issue with this mainly because this particular school tests kids before they place them in math (unlike public schools that just push them through with inflated grades). Kids in private schools are actually learning math vs. being awarded high grades in advanced classes they don't belong in.

This exactly. AP classes are strongly gatekept in private schools. Anyone can take an AP in public, which is why kids are getting poor AP scores even though they got As in the class.

dp.. I think the way public does it is better.

I'm a perfect example of that. I was a late bloomer. My public gatekept the AP classes. I had to beg to be allowed in APUSH and APEnglish. I got straight As while some who didn't have to beg to be let in the class did not. I did not find the class difficult at all. This was in the 80s.

I’m confused. PP said privates gatekeep APs, and you respond that you think publics do things better, but then give as your “perfect example” how your public gatekept APs and you think you did better because you had to beg to be let in. Aren’t you illustrating that schools that gatekeep (typically privates) are actually using a better system than those that don’t (often publics)?

Because that was in the 80s, as I stated. A lot has changed since back then. Our public now does not gatekeep AP classes. Today, in our public, kids who want to challenge themselves can without begging to be let in that class.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would the scores be so low? Something doesn't add up here.

If you took the AP course and paid attention that should be an automatic 4 without studying.

Massive grade inflation. I know schools where AP courses aren't at all rigorous.

Teacher here. My colleagues and I would never be allowed to give lower than a B- for AP classes, and if the student has "important parents", that student will have As.

This means that a student getting an A or B in an AP course at my school might get a 4 or 5 on the exam, or they might get a 1 or 2.

I am sure college admissions are aware. Grade inflation is extremely common in private schools.

What private school? Not the case at my daughter's school. Grade inflation is more of a factor in public schools.

Can you cite a source for your uninformed opinion? Public schools have much more standardized testing to keep them honest, and far fewer highly demanding parents to bully teachers into giving their mediocre rich kids As.

This is not an opinion lol. It is a fact. And private schools are known for grade deflation, so maybe you need to do more research.

MCPS is a perfect example. One of the largest school systems in the country. This article from 2022 lays it out pretty clearly. And know that they haven't changed anything since then, but over the summer there has apparently been a rehaul to address the rampant inflation.

https://www.thechurchillobserver.com/online-exclusives/2022/12/06/high-schools-grading-system-should-it-be-changed/

Yes, that particular public school district has documented evidence of grade inflation that it is attempting to change by revamping its grading policy in the coming year. But you are saying that you have evidence that private schools have grade deflation relative to public schools? Please cite that evidence--because it just sounds like you're mouthing a bunch of stuff that people like to say because they're paying $40k a year plus for tuition, and not because you've actually seen data.

That "data" only exists in the made up land of "I believe it therefore it must be true" land of the DCUM private school board. There are plenty of crap privates in this area whose caliber of instruction is below that of the public schools, particularly for STEM subjects where they can't find qualified teachers for the lower salaries some privates pay teachers. My neighbor's kid at a Catholic school private is 2 years older than my kid and they were doing the same level math in elementary school.

Ooh, someone's been triggered lol.

Who cares what the Catholic school kid is doing in math. I am talking about high schools, and in particular the higher ranked high schools in the DMV. These schools don't inflate grades like public schools.

FWIW, my kid is taking AP Calc in 11th grade. Most take it in 12th. I personally don't see an issue with this mainly because this particular school tests kids before they place them in math (unlike public schools that just push them through with inflated grades). Kids in private schools are actually learning math vs. being awarded high grades in advanced classes they don't belong in.

This exactly. AP classes are strongly gatekept in private schools. Anyone can take an AP in public, which is why kids are getting poor AP scores even though they got As in the class.

dp.. I think the way public does it is better.

I'm a perfect example of that. I was a late bloomer. My public gatekept the AP classes. I had to beg to be allowed in APUSH and APEnglish. I got straight As while some who didn't have to beg to be let in the class did not. I did not find the class difficult at all. This was in the 80s.

Public school education has severely gotten worse since the 80s, so not sure this anecdotal example applies here.

Check the private school forum. There’s been active threads this year of parents complaining their kids are not being allowed to access AP classes. Gatekeepers are not perfect and it’s pretty damaging to deny a kid access to a class that parents and kids think they’re capable of taking.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would the scores be so low? Something doesn't add up here.

If you took the AP course and paid attention that should be an automatic 4 without studying.

Massive grade inflation. I know schools where AP courses aren't at all rigorous.

Teacher here. My colleagues and I would never be allowed to give lower than a B- for AP classes, and if the student has "important parents", that student will have As.

This means that a student getting an A or B in an AP course at my school might get a 4 or 5 on the exam, or they might get a 1 or 2.

I am sure college admissions are aware. Grade inflation is extremely common in private schools.

What private school? Not the case at my daughter's school. Grade inflation is more of a factor in public schools.

Can you cite a source for your uninformed opinion? Public schools have much more standardized testing to keep them honest, and far fewer highly demanding parents to bully teachers into giving their mediocre rich kids As.

This is not an opinion lol. It is a fact. And private schools are known for grade deflation, so maybe you need to do more research.

MCPS is a perfect example. One of the largest school systems in the country. This article from 2022 lays it out pretty clearly. And know that they haven't changed anything since then, but over the summer there has apparently been a rehaul to address the rampant inflation.

https://www.thechurchillobserver.com/online-exclusives/2022/12/06/high-schools-grading-system-should-it-be-changed/

Yes, that particular public school district has documented evidence of grade inflation that it is attempting to change by revamping its grading policy in the coming year. But you are saying that you have evidence that private schools have grade deflation relative to public schools? Please cite that evidence--because it just sounds like you're mouthing a bunch of stuff that people like to say because they're paying $40k a year plus for tuition, and not because you've actually seen data.

That "data" only exists in the made up land of "I believe it therefore it must be true" land of the DCUM private school board. There are plenty of crap privates in this area whose caliber of instruction is below that of the public schools, particularly for STEM subjects where they can't find qualified teachers for the lower salaries some privates pay teachers. My neighbor's kid at a Catholic school private is 2 years older than my kid and they were doing the same level math in elementary school.

Ooh, someone's been triggered lol.

Who cares what the Catholic school kid is doing in math. I am talking about high schools, and in particular the higher ranked high schools in the DMV. These schools don't inflate grades like public schools.

FWIW, my kid is taking AP Calc in 11th grade. Most take it in 12th. I personally don't see an issue with this mainly because this particular school tests kids before they place them in math (unlike public schools that just push them through with inflated grades). Kids in private schools are actually learning math vs. being awarded high grades in advanced classes they don't belong in.

This exactly. AP classes are strongly gatekept in private schools. Anyone can take an AP in public, which is why kids are getting poor AP scores even though they got As in the class.

dp.. I think the way public does it is better.

I'm a perfect example of that. I was a late bloomer. My public gatekept the AP classes. I had to beg to be allowed in APUSH and APEnglish. I got straight As while some who didn't have to beg to be let in the class did not. I did not find the class difficult at all. This was in the 80s.

Public school education has severely gotten worse since the 80s, so not sure this anecdotal example applies here.

Check the private school forum. There’s been active threads this year of parents complaining their kids are not being allowed to access AP classes. Gatekeepers are not perfect and it’s pretty damaging to deny a kid access to a class that parents and kids think they’re capable of taking.

I would prefer to be placed in a class that is appropriate. And I like that my kid is on a class of students that can handle the content. Prevents dumbing down the class.

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So the f*ck what. That doesn’t mean that was the reason.

Actually it does. They were required specifically to get those grades. European colleges.

Which is neglected to mention until you were called out.

Nobody but a handful of weirdos in the USA gives a flying f*ck about European colleges.

You might want to take a break, chill out, go for a walk, stay off the booze for a while there buddy. Your chances of an anger induced heart attack are pretty high.

Lol not even remotely. It’s just such a stupid post on her part. Had to be called out.

So much vitriol. I'd argue that your post was actually stupid. Poster said her kids got all 5's and into their college of choice. You said it had nothing to do with their acceptance - based on nothing - and she said yes, actually it was based on those grades being required by the colleges.

Plenty of Americans attend UK universities, if you just read some of the threads on that you would see it is the case, 20% of the student body of University of St Andrews is American.

You really should pull your head out of your very tight ass hole.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is at a T10. Got 3s and 4s on most AP exams. One 5. Did not submit them. But did submit the SAT since it was 99th percentile

That is pretty embarrassing. For someone aiming for T10, they should have gotten virtually all 5s

If you think your kid received a good education, they did not. They slipped in through the cracks to a T10 but have no business being there.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is at a T10. Got 3s and 4s on most AP exams. One 5. Did not submit them. But did submit the SAT since it was 99th percentile

That is pretty embarrassing. For someone aiming for T10, they should have gotten virtually all 5s

If you think your kid received a good education, they did not. They slipped in through the cracks to a T10 but have no business being there.

So much judgment on this thread. Very bizarre.

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Anonymous wrote:My kids got all 5's and they got into their first choices.

So the f*ck what. That doesn’t mean that was the reason.

Actually it does. They were required specifically to get those grades. European colleges.

Which is neglected to mention until you were called out.

Nobody but a handful of weirdos in the USA gives a flying f*ck about European colleges.

You might want to take a break, chill out, go for a walk, stay off the booze for a while there buddy. Your chances of an anger induced heart attack are pretty high.

Lol not even remotely. It’s just such a stupid post on her part. Had to be called out.

So much vitriol. I'd argue that your post was actually stupid. Poster said her kids got all 5's and into their college of choice. You said it had nothing to do with their acceptance - based on nothing - and she said yes, actually it was based on those grades being required by the colleges.

Plenty of Americans attend UK universities, if you just read some of the threads on that you would see it is the case, 20% of the student body of University of St Andrews is American.

You really should pull your head out of your very tight ass hole.

You obviously didn’t get a 5 in AP stats. That 20 percent of one small foreign university is American pales in comparison to the millions of American students in American universities. It’s still such a rarity that when someone asks on a college admissions board “do AP scores matter” you can safely assume they mean for US college admissions.

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Anonymous wrote:My kids got all 5's and they got into their first choices.

So the f*ck what. That doesn’t mean that was the reason.

Actually it does. They were required specifically to get those grades. European colleges.

Which is neglected to mention until you were called out.

Nobody but a handful of weirdos in the USA gives a flying f*ck about European colleges.

You might want to take a break, chill out, go for a walk, stay off the booze for a while there buddy. Your chances of an anger induced heart attack are pretty high.

Lol not even remotely. It’s just such a stupid post on her part. Had to be called out.

So much vitriol. I'd argue that your post was actually stupid. Poster said her kids got all 5's and into their college of choice. You said it had nothing to do with their acceptance - based on nothing - and she said yes, actually it was based on those grades being required by the colleges.

Plenty of Americans attend UK universities, if you just read some of the threads on that you would see it is the case, 20% of the student body of University of St Andrews is American.

You really should pull your head out of your very tight ass hole.

You obviously didn’t get a 5 in AP stats. That 20 percent of one small foreign university is American pales in comparison to the millions of American students in American universities. It’s still such a rarity that when someone asks on a college admissions board “do AP scores matter” you can safely assume they mean for US college admissions.

Noise now, just noise.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is at a T10. Got 3s and 4s on most AP exams. One 5. Did not submit them. But did submit the SAT since it was 99th percentile

That is pretty embarrassing. For someone aiming for T10, they should have gotten virtually all 5s

If you think your kid received a good education, they did not. They slipped in through the cracks to a T10 but have no business being there.

Colleges like to see you took the most rigorous courses available, and that includes AP classes. Colleges don't care that much if you took the AP exams, and IMO, they would rather you not get the AP credit so that you have to pay for that course in college.

My kid got a 1440 on their SAT, one 2 (CS that they absolutely hated), two 3s and two 4s on their AP exams. The 2 and 3s were from AP exams that DC took when they were a freshman and sophomore. The 4s were during junior year. Maturity may impact how well you do.