IB at Kennedy HS

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There are currently eight IB schools and only six regions. And we don't know if Woodward or Crown will become IB schools.

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Anonymous wrote:My child is a rising freshman at Einstein and there doesn’t seem to be any pre-IB classes. However, the IB courses offered in 11th and 12th grade seem similar to the IB classes at other schools (from the written course descriptions and course codes).

I asked someone who worked in CO with a child at RM about the differences between the 2 schools IB programs, specifically in 9th and 10th grade. She kept saying that RM’s 9/10 courses are a different program (MYP) and made it seem like the 11/12 options are similar. I am still confused why one school has an application for IB and the other doesn’t. This makes me think non-application based IB programs are not legit

What do you meaN by "legit"? RMIB happens to be a very popular and selective program which means that kids who are in it tend to have higher test scores than at other IB programs. But it doesn't make the IB classes themselves any different than those at other schools (except I think there are a couple low-demand IB classes at RMIB and not elsewhere, like the very highest-level math class.)

IBHL math had a full class when my DC was in it 3 years ago. But, yea, this is why if they regionalize the IB program, some of these harder classes like HL AA math will no longer be offered due less demand since the highest achievers will be spread out.

And that would be a shame. My DC is a dual math/CS major, and they said that IB HL math (AA) helped them in some of their higher level math/CS classes. I can't remember the topic, but DC said that when they were learning this topic in class, they remember it from RMIB, so that unit was easier for DC. They have a 4.0 in college (and in HS). DC thinks that class, and MVC, helped.

What is AA math?

There are two types of HL math:

Analysis and Approaches - more difficult, theoretical, more for math related fields
Applications and Interpretation - more stats related, for non math related fields

https://www.ibmath.sg/what-is-the-hardest-math-course-in-ib/

All IB programs are not created equal.

Kennedy doesn't have IB physics HL; RMIB does. Kennedy only has IB Precalc, per the course catalog. RMIB has that and IB HL AA, the hardest IB math class.

If they make the IB programs regional, the demand for such high level classes will be distributed, thus reducing the demand in the IB regionals for these harder HL classes. And that would be a real shame for the truly high achievers. MCPS would be short changing them all in the name of equity.

I'm so glad my RMIB DC graduated a few years ago. We moved here specifically for the high level programming with a good size peer group. Thankfully, my DC is now gone from MCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are currently eight IB schools and only six regions. And we don't know if Woodward or Crown will become IB schools.

IB is expensive and some of the schools are not successful wuth many students not passing the exams and failing to earn the IB diploma. They will not be keeping all the programs they have now. Nor should they.

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Anonymous wrote:My child is a rising freshman at Einstein and there doesn’t seem to be any pre-IB classes. However, the IB courses offered in 11th and 12th grade seem similar to the IB classes at other schools (from the written course descriptions and course codes).

I asked someone who worked in CO with a child at RM about the differences between the 2 schools IB programs, specifically in 9th and 10th grade. She kept saying that RM’s 9/10 courses are a different program (MYP) and made it seem like the 11/12 options are similar. I am still confused why one school has an application for IB and the other doesn’t. This makes me think non-application based IB programs are not legit

What do you meaN by "legit"? RMIB happens to be a very popular and selective program which means that kids who are in it tend to have higher test scores than at other IB programs. But it doesn't make the IB classes themselves any different than those at other schools (except I think there are a couple low-demand IB classes at RMIB and not elsewhere, like the very highest-level math class.)

IBHL math had a full class when my DC was in it 3 years ago. But, yea, this is why if they regionalize the IB program, some of these harder classes like HL AA math will no longer be offered due less demand since the highest achievers will be spread out.

And that would be a shame. My DC is a dual math/CS major, and they said that IB HL math (AA) helped them in some of their higher level math/CS classes. I can't remember the topic, but DC said that when they were learning this topic in class, they remember it from RMIB, so that unit was easier for DC. They have a 4.0 in college (and in HS). DC thinks that class, and MVC, helped.

What is AA math?

There are two types of HL math:

Analysis and Approaches - more difficult, theoretical, more for math related fields
Applications and Interpretation - more stats related, for non math related fields

https://www.ibmath.sg/what-is-the-hardest-math-course-in-ib/

All IB programs are not created equal.

Kennedy doesn't have IB physics HL; RMIB does. Kennedy only has IB Precalc, per the course catalog. RMIB has that and IB HL AA, the hardest IB math class.

If they make the IB programs regional, the demand for such high level classes will be distributed, thus reducing the demand in the IB regionals for these harder HL classes. And that would be a real shame for the truly high achievers. MCPS would be short changing them all in the name of equity.

I'm so glad my RMIB DC graduated a few years ago. We moved here specifically for the high level programming with a good size peer group. Thankfully, my DC is now gone from MCPS.

DP and thank you for this.

Below are the 3 IB math classes B-CC offers. Is the HL
Version the more challenging version? I think it should be despite a slightly different name, as in junior year those students are taking AP Calc BC.

2082A/2082B. IB Applic Stats Calculus SL 2A & 2B
2062A/2062B IB Analysis Stats Calc SL 2A & 2B
2064A/2064B IB Analysis Stats Calc HL 2A & 2B

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Anonymous wrote:There are currently eight IB schools and only six regions. And we don't know if Woodward or Crown will become IB schools.

Hopefully not. Just make them strong STEM oeriented schools. There are enough IB's for folks interested in it.

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Anonymous wrote:My child is a rising freshman at Einstein and there doesn’t seem to be any pre-IB classes. However, the IB courses offered in 11th and 12th grade seem similar to the IB classes at other schools (from the written course descriptions and course codes).

I asked someone who worked in CO with a child at RM about the differences between the 2 schools IB programs, specifically in 9th and 10th grade. She kept saying that RM’s 9/10 courses are a different program (MYP) and made it seem like the 11/12 options are similar. I am still confused why one school has an application for IB and the other doesn’t. This makes me think non-application based IB programs are not legit

That person is confused or did not articulate clearly.

RM has RMS designated classes for 9th/10th magnet students - RMS English, for example. Those classes are ONLY available to IB magnet students. The in cluster non magnet students cannot take those classes.

To be clear, MYP is the entire school, and it starts from JWMS to 10th grade at RM. That is for all 9th/10 grade students at RM, however, MYP doesn't mean being able to take RMS classes, which again, is only for IB magnet students (of course, there are those who are in the RM cluster who are also in the IB magnet).

I've had one kid go through RMIB magnet and one not. MYP is really meaningless. There are no special MYP classes, but there are special 9th/10th IB magnet classes only for those in IB magnet.

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Anonymous wrote:There are currently eight IB schools and only six regions. And we don't know if Woodward or Crown will become IB schools.

IB is expensive and some of the schools are not successful wuth many students not passing the exams and failing to earn the IB diploma. They will not be keeping all the programs they have now. Nor should they.

Pure speculation.

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Anonymous wrote:My child is a rising freshman at Einstein and there doesn’t seem to be any pre-IB classes. However, the IB courses offered in 11th and 12th grade seem similar to the IB classes at other schools (from the written course descriptions and course codes).

I asked someone who worked in CO with a child at RM about the differences between the 2 schools IB programs, specifically in 9th and 10th grade. She kept saying that RM’s 9/10 courses are a different program (MYP) and made it seem like the 11/12 options are similar. I am still confused why one school has an application for IB and the other doesn’t. This makes me think non-application based IB programs are not legit

What do you meaN by "legit"? RMIB happens to be a very popular and selective program which means that kids who are in it tend to have higher test scores than at other IB programs. But it doesn't make the IB classes themselves any different than those at other schools (except I think there are a couple low-demand IB classes at RMIB and not elsewhere, like the very highest-level math class.)

IBHL math had a full class when my DC was in it 3 years ago. But, yea, this is why if they regionalize the IB program, some of these harder classes like HL AA math will no longer be offered due less demand since the highest achievers will be spread out.

And that would be a shame. My DC is a dual math/CS major, and they said that IB HL math (AA) helped them in some of their higher level math/CS classes. I can't remember the topic, but DC said that when they were learning this topic in class, they remember it from RMIB, so that unit was easier for DC. They have a 4.0 in college (and in HS). DC thinks that class, and MVC, helped.

What is AA math?

There are two types of HL math:

Analysis and Approaches - more difficult, theoretical, more for math related fields
Applications and Interpretation - more stats related, for non math related fields

https://www.ibmath.sg/what-is-the-hardest-math-course-in-ib/

All IB programs are not created equal.

Kennedy doesn't have IB physics HL; RMIB does. Kennedy only has IB Precalc, per the course catalog. RMIB has that and IB HL AA, the hardest IB math class.

If they make the IB programs regional, the demand for such high level classes will be distributed, thus reducing the demand in the IB regionals for these harder HL classes. And that would be a real shame for the truly high achievers. MCPS would be short changing them all in the name of equity.

I'm so glad my RMIB DC graduated a few years ago. We moved here specifically for the high level programming with a good size peer group. Thankfully, my DC is now gone from MCPS.

DP and thank you for this.

Below are the 3 IB math classes B-CC offers. Is the HL
Version the more challenging version? I think it should be despite a slightly different name, as in junior year those students are taking AP Calc BC.

2082A/2082B. IB Applic Stats Calculus SL 2A & 2B
2062A/2062B IB Analysis Stats Calc SL 2A & 2B
2064A/2064B IB Analysis Stats Calc HL 2A & 2B

PP here. Sorry, I was confused. MCPS label of IB math classes is not the exactly the same as IBO.

Per my DC:

IB Analysis Stats is the harder math
IB An/App Functions at RM is 9th grade IB math, which is not the same as IB Analysis and Approaches

I honestly don't know how MCPS is categorizing these math classes. But, DC said that at RMIB, all the kids who are strong in math take HL IB Analysis Stats.

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Anonymous wrote:My child is a rising freshman at Einstein and there doesn’t seem to be any pre-IB classes. However, the IB courses offered in 11th and 12th grade seem similar to the IB classes at other schools (from the written course descriptions and course codes).

I asked someone who worked in CO with a child at RM about the differences between the 2 schools IB programs, specifically in 9th and 10th grade. She kept saying that RM’s 9/10 courses are a different program (MYP) and made it seem like the 11/12 options are similar. I am still confused why one school has an application for IB and the other doesn’t. This makes me think non-application based IB programs are not legit

What do you meaN by "legit"? RMIB happens to be a very popular and selective program which means that kids who are in it tend to have higher test scores than at other IB programs. But it doesn't make the IB classes themselves any different than those at other schools (except I think there are a couple low-demand IB classes at RMIB and not elsewhere, like the very highest-level math class.)

IBHL math had a full class when my DC was in it 3 years ago. But, yea, this is why if they regionalize the IB program, some of these harder classes like HL AA math will no longer be offered due less demand since the highest achievers will be spread out.

And that would be a shame. My DC is a dual math/CS major, and they said that IB HL math (AA) helped them in some of their higher level math/CS classes. I can't remember the topic, but DC said that when they were learning this topic in class, they remember it from RMIB, so that unit was easier for DC. They have a 4.0 in college (and in HS). DC thinks that class, and MVC, helped.

What is AA math?

There are two types of HL math:

Analysis and Approaches - more difficult, theoretical, more for math related fields
Applications and Interpretation - more stats related, for non math related fields

https://www.ibmath.sg/what-is-the-hardest-math-course-in-ib/

All IB programs are not created equal.

Kennedy doesn't have IB physics HL; RMIB does. Kennedy only has IB Precalc, per the course catalog. RMIB has that and IB HL AA, the hardest IB math class.

If they make the IB programs regional, the demand for such high level classes will be distributed, thus reducing the demand in the IB regionals for these harder HL classes. And that would be a real shame for the truly high achievers. MCPS would be short changing them all in the name of equity.

I'm so glad my RMIB DC graduated a few years ago. We moved here specifically for the high level programming with a good size peer group. Thankfully, my DC is now gone from MCPS.

DP and thank you for this.

Below are the 3 IB math classes B-CC offers. Is the HL
Version the more challenging version? I think it should be despite a slightly different name, as in junior year those students are taking AP Calc BC.

2082A/2082B. IB Applic Stats Calculus SL 2A & 2B
2062A/2062B IB Analysis Stats Calc SL 2A & 2B
2064A/2064B IB Analysis Stats Calc HL 2A & 2B

PP here. Sorry, I was confused. MCPS label of IB math classes is not the exactly the same as IBO.

Per my DC:

IB Analysis Stats is the harder math
IB An/App Functions at RM is 9th grade IB math, which is not the same as IB Analysis and Approaches

I honestly don't know how MCPS is categorizing these math classes. But, DC said that at RMIB, all the kids who are strong in math take HL IB Analysis Stats.

OK thanks. It sounds like B-CC does offer the more rigorous math track, though it has no pre-IB courses.

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Anonymous wrote:My child is a rising freshman at Einstein and there doesn’t seem to be any pre-IB classes. However, the IB courses offered in 11th and 12th grade seem similar to the IB classes at other schools (from the written course descriptions and course codes).

I asked someone who worked in CO with a child at RM about the differences between the 2 schools IB programs, specifically in 9th and 10th grade. She kept saying that RM’s 9/10 courses are a different program (MYP) and made it seem like the 11/12 options are similar. I am still confused why one school has an application for IB and the other doesn’t. This makes me think non-application based IB programs are not legit

What do you meaN by "legit"? RMIB happens to be a very popular and selective program which means that kids who are in it tend to have higher test scores than at other IB programs. But it doesn't make the IB classes themselves any different than those at other schools (except I think there are a couple low-demand IB classes at RMIB and not elsewhere, like the very highest-level math class.)

IBHL math had a full class when my DC was in it 3 years ago. But, yea, this is why if they regionalize the IB program, some of these harder classes like HL AA math will no longer be offered due less demand since the highest achievers will be spread out.

And that would be a shame. My DC is a dual math/CS major, and they said that IB HL math (AA) helped them in some of their higher level math/CS classes. I can't remember the topic, but DC said that when they were learning this topic in class, they remember it from RMIB, so that unit was easier for DC. They have a 4.0 in college (and in HS). DC thinks that class, and MVC, helped.

What is AA math?

There are two types of HL math:

Analysis and Approaches - more difficult, theoretical, more for math related fields
Applications and Interpretation - more stats related, for non math related fields

https://www.ibmath.sg/what-is-the-hardest-math-course-in-ib/

All IB programs are not created equal.

Kennedy doesn't have IB physics HL; RMIB does. Kennedy only has IB Precalc, per the course catalog. RMIB has that and IB HL AA, the hardest IB math class.

If they make the IB programs regional, the demand for such high level classes will be distributed, thus reducing the demand in the IB regionals for these harder HL classes. And that would be a real shame for the truly high achievers. MCPS would be short changing them all in the name of equity.

I'm so glad my RMIB DC graduated a few years ago. We moved here specifically for the high level programming with a good size peer group. Thankfully, my DC is now gone from MCPS.

Not necessarily, because you haven't dealt with the fact that demand for a class is not the same as need for a class. There are plenty of kids who can do well in more advance classes but don't take them because they aren't offered. Just because they aren't as vocal to demand a course doesn't speak to capability.

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Anonymous wrote:My child is a rising freshman at Einstein and there doesn’t seem to be any pre-IB classes. However, the IB courses offered in 11th and 12th grade seem similar to the IB classes at other schools (from the written course descriptions and course codes).

I asked someone who worked in CO with a child at RM about the differences between the 2 schools IB programs, specifically in 9th and 10th grade. She kept saying that RM’s 9/10 courses are a different program (MYP) and made it seem like the 11/12 options are similar. I am still confused why one school has an application for IB and the other doesn’t. This makes me think non-application based IB programs are not legit

What do you meaN by "legit"? RMIB happens to be a very popular and selective program which means that kids who are in it tend to have higher test scores than at other IB programs. But it doesn't make the IB classes themselves any different than those at other schools (except I think there are a couple low-demand IB classes at RMIB and not elsewhere, like the very highest-level math class.)

IBHL math had a full class when my DC was in it 3 years ago. But, yea, this is why if they regionalize the IB program, some of these harder classes like HL AA math will no longer be offered due less demand since the highest achievers will be spread out.

And that would be a shame. My DC is a dual math/CS major, and they said that IB HL math (AA) helped them in some of their higher level math/CS classes. I can't remember the topic, but DC said that when they were learning this topic in class, they remember it from RMIB, so that unit was easier for DC. They have a 4.0 in college (and in HS). DC thinks that class, and MVC, helped.

What is AA math?

There are two types of HL math:

Analysis and Approaches - more difficult, theoretical, more for math related fields
Applications and Interpretation - more stats related, for non math related fields

https://www.ibmath.sg/what-is-the-hardest-math-course-in-ib/

All IB programs are not created equal.

Kennedy doesn't have IB physics HL; RMIB does. Kennedy only has IB Precalc, per the course catalog. RMIB has that and IB HL AA, the hardest IB math class.

If they make the IB programs regional, the demand for such high level classes will be distributed, thus reducing the demand in the IB regionals for these harder HL classes. And that would be a real shame for the truly high achievers. MCPS would be short changing them all in the name of equity.

I'm so glad my RMIB DC graduated a few years ago. We moved here specifically for the high level programming with a good size peer group. Thankfully, my DC is now gone from MCPS.

DP and thank you for this.

Below are the 3 IB math classes B-CC offers. Is the HL
Version the more challenging version? I think it should be despite a slightly different name, as in junior year those students are taking AP Calc BC.

2082A/2082B. IB Applic Stats Calculus SL 2A & 2B
2062A/2062B IB Analysis Stats Calc SL 2A & 2B
2064A/2064B IB Analysis Stats Calc HL 2A & 2B

PP here. Sorry, I was confused. MCPS label of IB math classes is not the exactly the same as IBO.

Per my DC:

IB Analysis Stats is the harder math
IB An/App Functions at RM is 9th grade IB math, which is not the same as IB Analysis and Approaches

I honestly don't know how MCPS is categorizing these math classes. But, DC said that at RMIB, all the kids who are strong in math take HL IB Analysis Stats.

Applic Stats Calc and Analysis Stats Calc (SL/HL) neither of the seem to be the same as Anal/App Functions. Also for IB can't SL and HL have two different meanings as in the SL is taught at a lower level vs the HL, or SL can be the first part and HL the second part of a course(ex Cal AB is one things, Calc BS includes all of AB plus some extra (Calc2)) Neither covers Calc 3).

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Anonymous wrote:Brand-new principal after the last brand-new principal got pushed out.

IB program needs lots of help. Don’t send your kid.

Why was last new principal pushed out?
What were the main problems at the school last year?
Why is there an IB program at that school?

The last principal was pushed out due to a number of issues, including safety and security at the school, staff dissatisfaction and poor academic outcomes.

The Regional IB program was put in place at Kennedy to attract whiter, wealthier kids who aren’t directly zoned for Kennedy in the hopes that those kids and their families would uplift the scores and standards for the school.

and this is why in the new regions, they will have Kennedy as region 4 IB, not RMIB, which is the longest running IB magnet in the county with the most seasoned teachers.

Is it off the table that they would have 2 IB schools in a region? Because if that is the case, then I think they will keep RMIB and retire Kennedy

Einstein has IB

Starting in 9th or 11th grade?

Starting in 11th. They used to have pre-IB English in 9th and 10th, but central office put a stop to that a few years ago.

Principal said at an open house that the demographic distribution in those classes was inequitable, leaving some well prepared and others not, and with many, then, having benefitted from the early enrichment, deciding not to pursue the later program, as it had lost its earlier tendency to offer higher-level coursework as the overall demographic changed. Instead of working in the cluster to build competency across demographics to encourage (difficult as these were student/family choices coming from middle schools across the DCC rather than any requirement that could be imposed), they went with dropping the 9th/10th courses in favor of the honors-for-all MCPS standard.

The Pre-IB classes were discontinued because the IBO doesn't allow schools to offer them unless they are MYP schools. It's a whole process high schools have to go through with IBO in order to offer the 9th and 10th grade program(me).

B-CC is MYP and still isn't allowed to offer them.

So what do students who want to do IB get for the first two years? And if there's no IB for 9th and 10th, are those students prepared when they enter IB in 11th, if yes,how do they prepare students for IB in 11th?

There are pre-IB courses. Students are more than prepared to enter the diploma programme in grade 11 at B-CC.

How does B-CC prepare students for diploma if posters are saying that there are no pre-IB classes at the school and that Honors English is honors for all?

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Anonymous wrote:My child is a rising freshman at Einstein and there doesn’t seem to be any pre-IB classes. However, the IB courses offered in 11th and 12th grade seem similar to the IB classes at other schools (from the written course descriptions and course codes).

I asked someone who worked in CO with a child at RM about the differences between the 2 schools IB programs, specifically in 9th and 10th grade. She kept saying that RM’s 9/10 courses are a different program (MYP) and made it seem like the 11/12 options are similar. I am still confused why one school has an application for IB and the other doesn’t. This makes me think non-application based IB programs are not legit

What do you meaN by "legit"? RMIB happens to be a very popular and selective program which means that kids who are in it tend to have higher test scores than at other IB programs. But it doesn't make the IB classes themselves any different than those at other schools (except I think there are a couple low-demand IB classes at RMIB and not elsewhere, like the very highest-level math class.)

IBHL math had a full class when my DC was in it 3 years ago. But, yea, this is why if they regionalize the IB program, some of these harder classes like HL AA math will no longer be offered due less demand since the highest achievers will be spread out.

And that would be a shame. My DC is a dual math/CS major, and they said that IB HL math (AA) helped them in some of their higher level math/CS classes. I can't remember the topic, but DC said that when they were learning this topic in class, they remember it from RMIB, so that unit was easier for DC. They have a 4.0 in college (and in HS). DC thinks that class, and MVC, helped.

What is AA math?

There are two types of HL math:

Analysis and Approaches - more difficult, theoretical, more for math related fields
Applications and Interpretation - more stats related, for non math related fields

https://www.ibmath.sg/what-is-the-hardest-math-course-in-ib/

All IB programs are not created equal.

Kennedy doesn't have IB physics HL; RMIB does. Kennedy only has IB Precalc, per the course catalog. RMIB has that and IB HL AA, the hardest IB math class.

If they make the IB programs regional, the demand for such high level classes will be distributed, thus reducing the demand in the IB regionals for these harder HL classes. And that would be a real shame for the truly high achievers. MCPS would be short changing them all in the name of equity.

I'm so glad my RMIB DC graduated a few years ago. We moved here specifically for the high level programming with a good size peer group. Thankfully, my DC is now gone from MCPS.

DP and thank you for this.

Below are the 3 IB math classes B-CC offers. Is the HL
Version the more challenging version? I think it should be despite a slightly different name, as in junior year those students are taking AP Calc BC.

2082A/2082B. IB Applic Stats Calculus SL 2A & 2B
2062A/2062B IB Analysis Stats Calc SL 2A & 2B
2064A/2064B IB Analysis Stats Calc HL 2A & 2B

PP here. Sorry, I was confused. MCPS label of IB math classes is not the exactly the same as IBO.

Per my DC:

IB Analysis Stats is the harder math
IB An/App Functions at RM is 9th grade IB math, which is not the same as IB Analysis and Approaches

I honestly don't know how MCPS is categorizing these math classes. But, DC said that at RMIB, all the kids who are strong in math take HL IB Analysis Stats.

OK thanks. It sounds like B-CC does offer the more rigorous math track, though it has no pre-IB courses.

Does it have IB An/App Functions?

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Anonymous wrote:My child is a rising freshman at Einstein and there doesn’t seem to be any pre-IB classes. However, the IB courses offered in 11th and 12th grade seem similar to the IB classes at other schools (from the written course descriptions and course codes).

I asked someone who worked in CO with a child at RM about the differences between the 2 schools IB programs, specifically in 9th and 10th grade. She kept saying that RM’s 9/10 courses are a different program (MYP) and made it seem like the 11/12 options are similar. I am still confused why one school has an application for IB and the other doesn’t. This makes me think non-application based IB programs are not legit

What do you meaN by "legit"? RMIB happens to be a very popular and selective program which means that kids who are in it tend to have higher test scores than at other IB programs. But it doesn't make the IB classes themselves any different than those at other schools (except I think there are a couple low-demand IB classes at RMIB and not elsewhere, like the very highest-level math class.)

IBHL math had a full class when my DC was in it 3 years ago. But, yea, this is why if they regionalize the IB program, some of these harder classes like HL AA math will no longer be offered due less demand since the highest achievers will be spread out.

And that would be a shame. My DC is a dual math/CS major, and they said that IB HL math (AA) helped them in some of their higher level math/CS classes. I can't remember the topic, but DC said that when they were learning this topic in class, they remember it from RMIB, so that unit was easier for DC. They have a 4.0 in college (and in HS). DC thinks that class, and MVC, helped.

What is AA math?

There are two types of HL math:

Analysis and Approaches - more difficult, theoretical, more for math related fields
Applications and Interpretation - more stats related, for non math related fields

https://www.ibmath.sg/what-is-the-hardest-math-course-in-ib/

All IB programs are not created equal.

Kennedy doesn't have IB physics HL; RMIB does. Kennedy only has IB Precalc, per the course catalog. RMIB has that and IB HL AA, the hardest IB math class.

If they make the IB programs regional, the demand for such high level classes will be distributed, thus reducing the demand in the IB regionals for these harder HL classes. And that would be a real shame for the truly high achievers. MCPS would be short changing them all in the name of equity.

I'm so glad my RMIB DC graduated a few years ago. We moved here specifically for the high level programming with a good size peer group. Thankfully, my DC is now gone from MCPS.

DP and thank you for this.

Below are the 3 IB math classes B-CC offers. Is the HL
Version the more challenging version? I think it should be despite a slightly different name, as in junior year those students are taking AP Calc BC.

2082A/2082B. IB Applic Stats Calculus SL 2A & 2B
2062A/2062B IB Analysis Stats Calc SL 2A & 2B
2064A/2064B IB Analysis Stats Calc HL 2A & 2B

PP here. Sorry, I was confused. MCPS label of IB math classes is not the exactly the same as IBO.

Per my DC:

IB Analysis Stats is the harder math
IB An/App Functions at RM is 9th grade IB math, which is not the same as IB Analysis and Approaches

I honestly don't know how MCPS is categorizing these math classes. But, DC said that at RMIB, all the kids who are strong in math take HL IB Analysis Stats.

Applic Stats Calc and Analysis Stats Calc (SL/HL) neither of the seem to be the same as Anal/App Functions. Also for IB can't SL and HL have two different meanings as in the SL is taught at a lower level vs the HL, or SL can be the first part and HL the second part of a course(ex Cal AB is one things, Calc BS includes all of AB plus some extra (Calc2)) Neither covers Calc 3).

Well, RMIB has to follow IB curriculum, so I assume their IB math classes align with either the IB AA or AI.

AAF is usually taken by RMIB students in 9th grade, so it's neither AA or AI. Maybe MCPS spread out their AA HL math class between AAF and Analysis Stats.

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Anonymous wrote:My child is a rising freshman at Einstein and there doesn’t seem to be any pre-IB classes. However, the IB courses offered in 11th and 12th grade seem similar to the IB classes at other schools (from the written course descriptions and course codes).

I asked someone who worked in CO with a child at RM about the differences between the 2 schools IB programs, specifically in 9th and 10th grade. She kept saying that RM’s 9/10 courses are a different program (MYP) and made it seem like the 11/12 options are similar. I am still confused why one school has an application for IB and the other doesn’t. This makes me think non-application based IB programs are not legit

What do you meaN by "legit"? RMIB happens to be a very popular and selective program which means that kids who are in it tend to have higher test scores than at other IB programs. But it doesn't make the IB classes themselves any different than those at other schools (except I think there are a couple low-demand IB classes at RMIB and not elsewhere, like the very highest-level math class.)

IBHL math had a full class when my DC was in it 3 years ago. But, yea, this is why if they regionalize the IB program, some of these harder classes like HL AA math will no longer be offered due less demand since the highest achievers will be spread out.

And that would be a shame. My DC is a dual math/CS major, and they said that IB HL math (AA) helped them in some of their higher level math/CS classes. I can't remember the topic, but DC said that when they were learning this topic in class, they remember it from RMIB, so that unit was easier for DC. They have a 4.0 in college (and in HS). DC thinks that class, and MVC, helped.

What is AA math?

There are two types of HL math:

Analysis and Approaches - more difficult, theoretical, more for math related fields
Applications and Interpretation - more stats related, for non math related fields

https://www.ibmath.sg/what-is-the-hardest-math-course-in-ib/

All IB programs are not created equal.

Kennedy doesn't have IB physics HL; RMIB does. Kennedy only has IB Precalc, per the course catalog. RMIB has that and IB HL AA, the hardest IB math class.

If they make the IB programs regional, the demand for such high level classes will be distributed, thus reducing the demand in the IB regionals for these harder HL classes. And that would be a real shame for the truly high achievers. MCPS would be short changing them all in the name of equity.

I'm so glad my RMIB DC graduated a few years ago. We moved here specifically for the high level programming with a good size peer group. Thankfully, my DC is now gone from MCPS.

Not necessarily, because you haven't dealt with the fact that demand for a class is not the same as need for a class. There are plenty of kids who can do well in more advance classes but don't take them because they aren't offered. Just because they aren't as vocal to demand a course doesn't speak to capability.

? If Kennedy had enough kids who wanted IB HL math, they would offer it. As it is, it appears that Kennedy doesn't have HL math.

RMIB HL Math classes are full. It also offers MVC/DiffEq. (also full). Per the course catalog, Kennedy doesn't have either of those classes.