IB at Kennedy HS

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Anonymous wrote:Brand-new principal after the last brand-new principal got pushed out.

IB program needs lots of help. Don’t send your kid.

Why was last new principal pushed out?
What were the main problems at the school last year?
Why is there an IB program at that school?

The last principal was pushed out due to a number of issues, including safety and security at the school, staff dissatisfaction and poor academic outcomes.

The Regional IB program was put in place at Kennedy to attract whiter, wealthier kids who aren’t directly zoned for Kennedy in the hopes that those kids and their families would uplift the scores and standards for the school.

and this is why in the new regions, they will have Kennedy as region 4 IB, not RMIB, which is the longest running IB magnet in the county with the most seasoned teachers.

Is it off the table that they would have 2 IB schools in a region? Because if that is the case, then I think they will keep RMIB and retire Kennedy

Einstein has IB

Starting in 9th or 11th grade?

Starting in 11th. They used to have pre-IB English in 9th and 10th, but central office put a stop to that a few years ago.

Principal said at an open house that the demographic distribution in those classes was inequitable, leaving some well prepared and others not, and with many, then, having benefitted from the early enrichment, deciding not to pursue the later program, as it had lost its earlier tendency to offer higher-level coursework as the overall demographic changed. Instead of working in the cluster to build competency across demographics to encourage (difficult as these were student/family choices coming from middle schools across the DCC rather than any requirement that could be imposed), they went with dropping the 9th/10th courses in favor of the honors-for-all MCPS standard.

The Pre-IB classes were discontinued because the IBO doesn't allow schools to offer them unless they are MYP schools. It's a whole process high schools have to go through with IBO in order to offer the 9th and 10th grade program(me).

But there are high schools that are MYP yet someone up thread said there weren't Pre-IB classes at that high school.

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I think the issue is "Pre-IB" was an MCPS term that wasn't allowed by the official IB org.

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I think that is why RM started requiring MYP for everyone...which was a joke for non magnet kids. Not sure if that still exists.

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Anonymous wrote:I think that is why RM started requiring MYP for everyone...which was a joke for non magnet kids. Not sure if that still exists.

It does, and yes, for non IB kids, the MYP is a joke.

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Anonymous wrote:Brand-new principal after the last brand-new principal got pushed out.

IB program needs lots of help. Don’t send your kid.

Why was last new principal pushed out?
What were the main problems at the school last year?
Why is there an IB program at that school?

The last principal was pushed out due to a number of issues, including safety and security at the school, staff dissatisfaction and poor academic outcomes.

The Regional IB program was put in place at Kennedy to attract whiter, wealthier kids who aren’t directly zoned for Kennedy in the hopes that those kids and their families would uplift the scores and standards for the school.

and this is why in the new regions, they will have Kennedy as region 4 IB, not RMIB, which is the longest running IB magnet in the county with the most seasoned teachers.

Is it off the table that they would have 2 IB schools in a region? Because if that is the case, then I think they will keep RMIB and retire Kennedy

Einstein has IB

Starting in 9th or 11th grade?

Starting in 11th. They used to have pre-IB English in 9th and 10th, but central office put a stop to that a few years ago.

Principal said at an open house that the demographic distribution in those classes was inequitable, leaving some well prepared and others not, and with many, then, having benefitted from the early enrichment, deciding not to pursue the later program, as it had lost its earlier tendency to offer higher-level coursework as the overall demographic changed. Instead of working in the cluster to build competency across demographics to encourage (difficult as these were student/family choices coming from middle schools across the DCC rather than any requirement that could be imposed), they went with dropping the 9th/10th courses in favor of the honors-for-all MCPS standard.

The Pre-IB classes were discontinued because the IBO doesn't allow schools to offer them unless they are MYP schools. It's a whole process high schools have to go through with IBO in order to offer the 9th and 10th grade program(me).

Still waiting to hear why, in a way meaningfully different from the explanation given by the principal, Einstein did not pursue MYP to preserve enriched offerings in 9th/10th...

I spoke to the principal directly about this question in...2022 maybe when my child was deciding between VAC and CAP. His statement at the time was that MCPS was forcing them not to offer it, due to equity. I know this sounds like trolling, but that's what he said at the time.

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Anonymous wrote:Brand-new principal after the last brand-new principal got pushed out.

IB program needs lots of help. Don’t send your kid.

Why was last new principal pushed out?
What were the main problems at the school last year?
Why is there an IB program at that school?

The last principal was pushed out due to a number of issues, including safety and security at the school, staff dissatisfaction and poor academic outcomes.

The Regional IB program was put in place at Kennedy to attract whiter, wealthier kids who aren’t directly zoned for Kennedy in the hopes that those kids and their families would uplift the scores and standards for the school.

and this is why in the new regions, they will have Kennedy as region 4 IB, not RMIB, which is the longest running IB magnet in the county with the most seasoned teachers.

Is it off the table that they would have 2 IB schools in a region? Because if that is the case, then I think they will keep RMIB and retire Kennedy

Einstein has IB

Starting in 9th or 11th grade?

Starting in 11th. They used to have pre-IB English in 9th and 10th, but central office put a stop to that a few years ago.

Principal said at an open house that the demographic distribution in those classes was inequitable, leaving some well prepared and others not, and with many, then, having benefitted from the early enrichment, deciding not to pursue the later program, as it had lost its earlier tendency to offer higher-level coursework as the overall demographic changed. Instead of working in the cluster to build competency across demographics to encourage (difficult as these were student/family choices coming from middle schools across the DCC rather than any requirement that could be imposed), they went with dropping the 9th/10th courses in favor of the honors-for-all MCPS standard.

The Pre-IB classes were discontinued because the IBO doesn't allow schools to offer them unless they are MYP schools. It's a whole process high schools have to go through with IBO in order to offer the 9th and 10th grade program(me).

Still waiting to hear why, in a way meaningfully different from the explanation given by the principal, Einstein did not pursue MYP to preserve enriched offerings in 9th/10th...

I spoke to the principal directly about this question in...2022 maybe when my child was deciding between VAC and CAP. His statement at the time was that MCPS was forcing them not to offer it, due to equity. I know this sounds like trolling, but that's what he said at the time.

And that is why MCPS continues to dumbdown the curriculum, including the magnet programs. Changing RMIB to regional will mean less prepared students.

MCPS is shoveling some lies about there being so many kids who can do the work at RMIB. No, there aren't. Even some of the kids there struggle. The workload is immense, and these kids also do a lot of extra curriculars. They don't get much sleep, but they are willing to make that sacrifice to be in RMIB, in part, because of the peer group.

If the caliber of the peer group goes down, there will be less demand for the program. IMO, that is what MCPS wants. They want the W kids (I am not in a W cluster) to not bother with the regional programs to keep spots open for the other kids, ie, "Equity".

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Anonymous wrote:I think the issue is "Pre-IB" was an MCPS term that wasn't allowed by the official IB org.

Not really. RMIB and Kennedy have pre-IB classes and just call them by a different name. MCPS chose to remove them from Kennedy and B-CC (and perhaps some other schools).

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Anonymous wrote:Brand-new principal after the last brand-new principal got pushed out.

IB program needs lots of help. Don’t send your kid.

Why was last new principal pushed out?
What were the main problems at the school last year?
Why is there an IB program at that school?

The last principal was pushed out due to a number of issues, including safety and security at the school, staff dissatisfaction and poor academic outcomes.

The Regional IB program was put in place at Kennedy to attract whiter, wealthier kids who aren’t directly zoned for Kennedy in the hopes that those kids and their families would uplift the scores and standards for the school.

and this is why in the new regions, they will have Kennedy as region 4 IB, not RMIB, which is the longest running IB magnet in the county with the most seasoned teachers.

Is it off the table that they would have 2 IB schools in a region? Because if that is the case, then I think they will keep RMIB and retire Kennedy

Einstein has IB

Starting in 9th or 11th grade?

Starting in 11th. They used to have pre-IB English in 9th and 10th, but central office put a stop to that a few years ago.

Principal said at an open house that the demographic distribution in those classes was inequitable, leaving some well prepared and others not, and with many, then, having benefitted from the early enrichment, deciding not to pursue the later program, as it had lost its earlier tendency to offer higher-level coursework as the overall demographic changed. Instead of working in the cluster to build competency across demographics to encourage (difficult as these were student/family choices coming from middle schools across the DCC rather than any requirement that could be imposed), they went with dropping the 9th/10th courses in favor of the honors-for-all MCPS standard.

The Pre-IB classes were discontinued because the IBO doesn't allow schools to offer them unless they are MYP schools. It's a whole process high schools have to go through with IBO in order to offer the 9th and 10th grade program(me).

Still waiting to hear why, in a way meaningfully different from the explanation given by the principal, Einstein did not pursue MYP to preserve enriched offerings in 9th/10th...

I spoke to the principal directly about this question in...2022 maybe when my child was deciding between VAC and CAP. His statement at the time was that MCPS was forcing them not to offer it, due to equity. I know this sounds like trolling, but that's what he said at the time.

And that is why MCPS continues to dumbdown the curriculum, including the magnet programs. Changing RMIB to regional will mean less prepared students.

MCPS is shoveling some lies about there being so many kids who can do the work at RMIB. No, there aren't. Even some of the kids there struggle. The workload is immense, and these kids also do a lot of extra curriculars. They don't get much sleep, but they are willing to make that sacrifice to be in RMIB, in part, because of the peer group.

If the caliber of the peer group goes down, there will be less demand for the program. IMO, that is what MCPS wants. They want the W kids (I am not in a W cluster) to not bother with the regional programs to keep spots open for the other kids, ie, "Equity".

Well, that's a first. NOT

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the issue is "Pre-IB" was an MCPS term that wasn't allowed by the official IB org.

Not really. RMIB and Kennedy have pre-IB classes and just call them by a different name. MCPS chose to remove them from Kennedy and B-CC (and perhaps some other schools).

9th and 10th grade magnet classes at RM have an RMS prefix.

Example: https://coursebulletin.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/SchoolCourseCatalogs/School/04201/EN

https://coursebulletin.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/CourseDetails/Index/ENG2077A

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We went to the open house last year for Kennedy IB. I was impressed with the head of the program and the students who spoke had good things to say and were very articulate. It is a 4 year IB program (different than Einstein). It is younger though, so not as well established, and there have been broader issues with the school. My son got in, but we decided not to do it. Ultimately we live too far away to really make it work.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the issue is "Pre-IB" was an MCPS term that wasn't allowed by the official IB org.

Not really. RMIB and Kennedy have pre-IB classes and just call them by a different name. MCPS chose to remove them from Kennedy and B-CC (and perhaps some other schools).

No, Kennedy still has them, because they're a regional magnet, right?

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Anonymous wrote:I think the issue is "Pre-IB" was an MCPS term that wasn't allowed by the official IB org.

Not really. RMIB and Kennedy have pre-IB classes and just call them by a different name. MCPS chose to remove them from Kennedy and B-CC (and perhaps some other schools).

No, Kennedy still has them, because they're a regional magnet, right?

Sorry meant Einstein and B-CC.

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Anonymous wrote:Brand-new principal after the last brand-new principal got pushed out.

IB program needs lots of help. Don’t send your kid.

Why was last new principal pushed out?
What were the main problems at the school last year?
Why is there an IB program at that school?

The last principal was pushed out due to a number of issues, including safety and security at the school, staff dissatisfaction and poor academic outcomes.

The Regional IB program was put in place at Kennedy to attract whiter, wealthier kids who aren’t directly zoned for Kennedy in the hopes that those kids and their families would uplift the scores and standards for the school.

and this is why in the new regions, they will have Kennedy as region 4 IB, not RMIB, which is the longest running IB magnet in the county with the most seasoned teachers.

Is it off the table that they would have 2 IB schools in a region? Because if that is the case, then I think they will keep RMIB and retire Kennedy

Einstein has IB

Starting in 9th or 11th grade?

Starting in 11th. They used to have pre-IB English in 9th and 10th, but central office put a stop to that a few years ago.

Principal said at an open house that the demographic distribution in those classes was inequitable, leaving some well prepared and others not, and with many, then, having benefitted from the early enrichment, deciding not to pursue the later program, as it had lost its earlier tendency to offer higher-level coursework as the overall demographic changed. Instead of working in the cluster to build competency across demographics to encourage (difficult as these were student/family choices coming from middle schools across the DCC rather than any requirement that could be imposed), they went with dropping the 9th/10th courses in favor of the honors-for-all MCPS standard.

The Pre-IB classes were discontinued because the IBO doesn't allow schools to offer them unless they are MYP schools. It's a whole process high schools have to go through with IBO in order to offer the 9th and 10th grade program(me).

Still waiting to hear why, in a way meaningfully different from the explanation given by the principal, Einstein did not pursue MYP to preserve enriched offerings in 9th/10th...

I spoke to the principal directly about this question in...2022 maybe when my child was deciding between VAC and CAP. His statement at the time was that MCPS was forcing them not to offer it, due to equity. I know this sounds like trolling, but that's what he said at the time.

Did he explain what he/they meant by that?

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Anonymous wrote:Brand-new principal after the last brand-new principal got pushed out.

IB program needs lots of help. Don’t send your kid.

Why was last new principal pushed out?
What were the main problems at the school last year?
Why is there an IB program at that school?

The last principal was pushed out due to a number of issues, including safety and security at the school, staff dissatisfaction and poor academic outcomes.

The Regional IB program was put in place at Kennedy to attract whiter, wealthier kids who aren’t directly zoned for Kennedy in the hopes that those kids and their families would uplift the scores and standards for the school.

and this is why in the new regions, they will have Kennedy as region 4 IB, not RMIB, which is the longest running IB magnet in the county with the most seasoned teachers.

Is it off the table that they would have 2 IB schools in a region? Because if that is the case, then I think they will keep RMIB and retire Kennedy

Einstein has IB

Starting in 9th or 11th grade?

Starting in 11th. They used to have pre-IB English in 9th and 10th, but central office put a stop to that a few years ago.

Principal said at an open house that the demographic distribution in those classes was inequitable, leaving some well prepared and others not, and with many, then, having benefitted from the early enrichment, deciding not to pursue the later program, as it had lost its earlier tendency to offer higher-level coursework as the overall demographic changed. Instead of working in the cluster to build competency across demographics to encourage (difficult as these were student/family choices coming from middle schools across the DCC rather than any requirement that could be imposed), they went with dropping the 9th/10th courses in favor of the honors-for-all MCPS standard.

The Pre-IB classes were discontinued because the IBO doesn't allow schools to offer them unless they are MYP schools. It's a whole process high schools have to go through with IBO in order to offer the 9th and 10th grade program(me).

Still waiting to hear why, in a way meaningfully different from the explanation given by the principal, Einstein did not pursue MYP to preserve enriched offerings in 9th/10th...

I spoke to the principal directly about this question in...2022 maybe when my child was deciding between VAC and CAP. His statement at the time was that MCPS was forcing them not to offer it, due to equity. I know this sounds like trolling, but that's what he said at the time.

Did he explain what he/they meant by that?

DP, but prior poster in this sub-thread. Given that that was, essentially, also what the principal told me, I'd guess that it was the same as that described in the "Principal said at an open house..." post.

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Consider moving to Rockville if you’re in Aspen Hill. It’s a better IB school.