Ah got it. You are a dumb MAGA. The kind that doesn't get that the smart MAGA are actually robbing her to pay the billionaire lobbyists. These "programs" you are touting have been or are being cut by Trump. So its rich that you should bring that up. But go on and believe FOX entertainment. |
So that's a "no" on donating I'm assuming? |
This!!! Say it louder for those in the back (or under a rock). |
I’m Catholic and this is actually true. Catholics believe in natural birth/ natural death. It isn’t an abortion to allow a fetus to have a natural death with its mother. Just like you can technically have an ectopic treated if you remove the tube and baby dies naturally. Now, I’m sure so,e ethicists would agree with the state. Catholics aren’t a monolith. But I’m a cradle Catholic, and ai believe the mother should have not been kept alive artificially and the baby should have been allowed to die with its mother, and join her in heaven. |
Well, the reality is that after being brain dead for months, your body rots. I’m sorry if you find that unpleasant. It’s something to consider when you make your own advance directive. |
If this trend of keeping every premature baby alive even with severe complications and life long need to expensive care, all paid and social services would collapse. |
Once she was dead and on life support that is literally what she was. It’s not all beautiful like Snow White in a glass coffin although I’m sure that’s how you picture it. |
Is your mind incapable of nuance? No one wanted this baby to die. No one is angry the baby is alive. The issue is not so black and white. Personally, I have mixed feelings because the mother was unable to consent to what was done to her body. I have concerns over the financial implications of this herculean effort to keep this baby alive on the family, that again, was not given the opportunity to consent. I have concerns that people like you, with no ability to comprehend nuance, will look at this as a win and we'll see even more state control over women's bodies and lack of consent required for medical procedures. I personally think people should make their own medical decisions, and the state and the public should stay out of it. I wish this baby all health and happiness, but I dont think it's as simple as baby lived so everything done to his mother without her consent was justified. You could justify any number of terrible things if all that matters is a living baby at the end of it. |
^^this. I would not want my living child to go through this either - the trauma of having me on life support for 8 months instead of being able to grieve and all family resources disrupted permanently. My #1 priority would be my actual alive child. It is also important to note though that prior to this, it wasn’t just the family choice. Hospitals would not agree to put a 1st trimester pregnant woman on life support. They can and do withdraw futile measures all the time and family members cannot demand they continue in some states. |
PP and BTW— for the person who is going to point out that this baby would not have been baptized and under Catholic doctrine would be in purgatory, not heaven— yeah. I know the doctrine. But I guess like most Catholics I’m a bit a la carte. I have lost pregnancies and I don’t believe in a God who would separate me from my loved and wanted unborn children in heaven. I literally can’t believe in that God and still function. But yes, I know the doctrine. I just think it’s wrong here. Nothing is more innocent or pure than an unborn child or baby. There is no reason their souls should be in purgatory. And I know here, natural death of the mother and baby is doctrine. And for everyone on here yelling about God— if you believe in God, you then you know our time on earth is limited and what is important isn’t that we spend as much time on Earth as possible. When God calls us home, we then it’s our time. It’s not at all cruel to allow this mother and child to die a natural death together and be together for eternity in heaven. Nobody wanted to abort this baby, which would be taking an action to end its life. They are saying the actions here to prevent its natural death are wrong. Heaven seem a lot better to me than short, painful, disabled life forced artificially against the wishes of God to call these two people home. So don’t come at me with God and mortality. What happened here isn’t Gods will. |
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+1. the gross old men of Georgia passed a law that ended up creating a complex and fraught situation out of something that should have been handled between the family and the doctors. |
This. I'm tired and disgusted by fake christians who are Pro BIRTH not PRO LIFE. They voted to cut programs that would help struggling families and children but now want to seem righteous and make this horrific event for the family a beautiful "christian" moment. Meanwhile MAGA are shouting on the daily how all democrats and people who care about other people should die-you have to love these "christians". We see you. |
+1 |
I agree. This entire situation is heartbreaking for the family. |