Yes, keeping a legally dead body “alive” to gestate a non-viable fetus is repulsive. |
Survival is different from okay. I bet there are all kinds of neurological problems. |
Not a liar, just playful and hopeful. She wouldn’t be good grandma if she wasn’t. But I imagine that child will remain in the NUCU for a long time trying to survive all kinds of medical issues. |
Prayful, not playful. ^ |
Show us where the hospital is going to bill an adult woman’s mother for her medical care? Dcum is genuinely bitter this baby was born. Incredible. |
They’re going to bill the estate. They will take every bit of our life savings. You think the hospital is just gonna let them not pay the bill? Also, who do you think is going to feed house and raise this child? The state? |
The baby’s father will be billed for the baby’s medical care |
You think the hospital is going to waive fees because it's the right thing to do? When would it possibly be the wrong thing to do?! And yet, it never happens; Americans go medically bankrupt all the time. Nobody is bitter a baby was born. People are pointing out that the mother being kept alive merely as an incubator has ethical repercussions and a cost. Are you going to pay for that, party of jerks who want to refuse to pay for other classes of people to simply exist? If you're willing to pay to keep a brain-dead person alive, why not a fat person? a queer person? a poor person? This particular poor, motherless baby, who will likely need extensive medical care (and then, of course, an education, affordable housing, etc.)? Nobody's bitter about the baby. At all. A lot of people are pointing out the logic gaps in the arguments your side is making. |
Just because a severely underweight baby somewhere in the world has survived once does not mean that this baby has a good prognosis. Over 50% of babies born at 31 weeks have a lifelong disability, and this babies mother was dead for months, so who knows what the long-term health consequences will be. |
Any update on this situation? |
So more than half of micropremies have a lifelong disability and 20% have severe issues that will require lifelong expensive medical care. That is not reassuring. |
I hope the baby grows up healthy without significant disabilities and enriches the lives of his family.
But … I remain disgusted at the “pro life” fetishization of the fetus. This whole saga was an intensely expensive, distressing and painful intervention that produced a micropreemie that will need yet more painful and expensive intervention, with a very high chance of a child with severe disability … and then the mother’s body is thrown away once it is no longer needed. All because the very natural course of events was not allowed to take place and the family was not given a choice. I believe the willingness of the mother is as the heart of the mortality and good of childbirth and childrearing - and this event made a complete mockery out it it. It is truly repellent. Her body was literally dead. Yet the pro lifers will wax on ecstatically about “life” and “babies” and “wombs” with complete lack of acknowledgement about the immense pain and burden and unhappiness caused. When you listen to these pro lifers you can hear that they literally worship the “womb” and the “baby” and refuse to acknowledge any legitimacy of the costs and pains of childbirth let alone the damages suffered by unwanted children. It’s all a fairy tale to them. It’s deeply, deeply negating towards any value of the woman’s life. |
I am disgusted that dcum can’t show any love or respect for a baby born and his life. He’s a human being Pretending that you know how “disabled” a newborn baby is, and how his life is worthless and he would be better off dead is abhorrent. Mom was a nurse at Emory; she had health insurance. She was insured for her hospital stay and treatment. Chance was a wanted baby. Why don’t you ghouls stop basing your worldview of such situations off of a tv show based on a book of fiction? Are you that out of touch with the reality of life, or so politically motivated that even a newborn baby is seen a disposable? The problem is that this woman, a RN, had the misfortune of being black, and her medical care was substandard. She should be alive and pregnant and happy. The family should sue the medical centers that didn’t take care of her and Chance correctly and get a trust set up for Chance and his older sibling, so their needs are met. The doctors that didn’t medically help this woman are liable for her death and liable as they deprived two young children of their mom. I don’t see anyone talking about “who is going pay for” the older sibling? That child lost their mom too. That child needs to be taken care of financially. The mom’s body wasn’t “thrown away.” She was taken off life support by her family- who loved her. The entire dcum narrative is that mom didn’t want her baby to be born, the family wanted the woman to be taken off life support, and the baby is severely disabled. None of that incredibly gross narrative is true. If you look back at the thread created before Chance was born, posters were insisting Chance was “blind” and unable to walk, had epilepsy, etc. Nobody knew his medical status, but posters were invested in lying about an unborn baby. What would motivate a stranger to lie about an unborn baby? Why aren’t you all talking about how mom presented at least twice to ERs and was not taken seriously? The medical staff that didn’t give her proper care are the people who threw this poor woman away. A tragedy occurs and what does dcum focus on? Lying about a baby. Dcum is ignoring the poor/nonexistent medical care a pregnant black woman received that resulted in her death to complain that her baby was born and the grandmother says he is doing good and asks for prayers. |
I hope for the grandmother's sake that this baby is okay but no one will know fully the harm caused by not allowing this child to die with their mother as would naturally have happened if the state had not intervened.
All the heart warming stories will not make up for the fact that people are not meant to be born at 1 lb. Women have been giving birth for millenia and if the child is this small, they die. If the mother dies, the child dies What is disturbing to all you MAGA that you can't see whst a perversion has happened hear against the family's wishes though of course they will try their best with the hand thst is forced upon them now. |
You know what is really repulsive? A black female rn experiencing health issues and presenting to two ERs, her justified medical conditions being ignored/undertreated, her suffering brain death because of medical negligence, 2 children losing their mom, a family losing their daughter/sister/loved one, a woman losing her life, and dcum talking about how pro-life people are like handmaid’s tale and pretending they know how disabled an innocent baby who lost his mom is and how he should have died too!! |