Storage Pouches for APS High Schools

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Anonymous wrote:We need dedicated phone lockers. Away all day. If a phone is seen in school more than once by a student, confiscated and parents can pick it up on the following Monday morning, which means at least one weekend without a phone.

Or you can just keep the phone home and stop putting this all on the school to enforce. Be a parent. Set your own controls.

Exactly. Get back to me when your kid drives to school and an after school job, and it would be a huge safety issue not to have a phone.

I know the world has changed, but somehow 25 years ago we were able to drive to school and then work with no phone and it was totally fine.

Soooo tired of this line. Expectations were different then, too. My HS kid literally finds out his work schedule via his boss texting him. Sometimes there’s a schedule change to his sports or band that’s communicated after the school day starts, and I need to tell him to take the bus home after all, or whatever.

I’m not suggesting he should have a phone out in class, but yes “the world has changed.” There are good reasons for a HS kid to have a with them phone before/after school, and for emergencies. I am a proponent of away during class, but I think the pouches are a stupid waste of money. And yes, my kid is finishing up a school year of having the pouch, so my opinion is based on actual experience.

Yes, at the last class of the day they take their phones out of the pouch and check for the plans for the afternoon. I’m not exactly sure why you think it has to be just in time delivery of all changes to the schedule immediately.

You really think the employer is okay with not hearing back if a shift change works until just before the shift starts? That's not how the world works. My kid doesn't work, but I have had to communicate with her during the day to schedule doctor's appointments. By the time she gets home, the doctor's offices have closed. The world works in real time, it doesn't wait for kids who have phones locked away all day.

if your kid has an unexpected mid-day doctors appointment, you can just show up at the school and the front office will call their class room. I have had to do it several times for the orthodontist. For anything after school, kids look at their phones the second the school day ends. Employers who hire high school kids are going to have to adjust to kids being unreachable during the day.

Hilarious you think the office knows where a high school kid is at all times. That's not how it works for older kids, honey.

Are you saying the office can’t pull up their schedule and see which class they are supposed to be in?

Older HS students are not always in a class. It is so obvious you have no idea how high school works.

Where are they, then?

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Anonymous wrote:We need dedicated phone lockers. Away all day. If a phone is seen in school more than once by a student, confiscated and parents can pick it up on the following Monday morning, which means at least one weekend without a phone.

Or you can just keep the phone home and stop putting this all on the school to enforce. Be a parent. Set your own controls.

Exactly. Get back to me when your kid drives to school and an after school job, and it would be a huge safety issue not to have a phone.

I know the world has changed, but somehow 25 years ago we were able to drive to school and then work with no phone and it was totally fine.

Soooo tired of this line. Expectations were different then, too. My HS kid literally finds out his work schedule via his boss texting him. Sometimes there’s a schedule change to his sports or band that’s communicated after the school day starts, and I need to tell him to take the bus home after all, or whatever.

I’m not suggesting he should have a phone out in class, but yes “the world has changed.” There are good reasons for a HS kid to have a with them phone before/after school, and for emergencies. I am a proponent of away during class, but I think the pouches are a stupid waste of money. And yes, my kid is finishing up a school year of having the pouch, so my opinion is based on actual experience.

Yes, at the last class of the day they take their phones out of the pouch and check for the plans for the afternoon. I’m not exactly sure why you think it has to be just in time delivery of all changes to the schedule immediately.

You really think the employer is okay with not hearing back if a shift change works until just before the shift starts? That's not how the world works. My kid doesn't work, but I have had to communicate with her during the day to schedule doctor's appointments. By the time she gets home, the doctor's offices have closed. The world works in real time, it doesn't wait for kids who have phones locked away all day.

if your kid has an unexpected mid-day doctors appointment, you can just show up at the school and the front office will call their class room. I have had to do it several times for the orthodontist. For anything after school, kids look at their phones the second the school day ends. Employers who hire high school kids are going to have to adjust to kids being unreachable during the day.

Hilarious you think the office knows where a high school kid is at all times. That's not how it works for older kids, honey.

Are you saying the office can’t pull up their schedule and see which class they are supposed to be in?

Older HS students are not always in a class. It is so obvious you have no idea how high school works.

So, they also can’t always take your call because they are on the field or taking a test. They can track them down and get back to you.

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Anonymous wrote:We need dedicated phone lockers. Away all day. If a phone is seen in school more than once by a student, confiscated and parents can pick it up on the following Monday morning, which means at least one weekend without a phone.

Or you can just keep the phone home and stop putting this all on the school to enforce. Be a parent. Set your own controls.

Exactly. Get back to me when your kid drives to school and an after school job, and it would be a huge safety issue not to have a phone.

I know the world has changed, but somehow 25 years ago we were able to drive to school and then work with no phone and it was totally fine.

Soooo tired of this line. Expectations were different then, too. My HS kid literally finds out his work schedule via his boss texting him. Sometimes there’s a schedule change to his sports or band that’s communicated after the school day starts, and I need to tell him to take the bus home after all, or whatever.

I’m not suggesting he should have a phone out in class, but yes “the world has changed.” There are good reasons for a HS kid to have a with them phone before/after school, and for emergencies. I am a proponent of away during class, but I think the pouches are a stupid waste of money. And yes, my kid is finishing up a school year of having the pouch, so my opinion is based on actual experience.

Yes, at the last class of the day they take their phones out of the pouch and check for the plans for the afternoon. I’m not exactly sure why you think it has to be just in time delivery of all changes to the schedule immediately.

You really think the employer is okay with not hearing back if a shift change works until just before the shift starts? That's not how the world works. My kid doesn't work, but I have had to communicate with her during the day to schedule doctor's appointments. By the time she gets home, the doctor's offices have closed. The world works in real time, it doesn't wait for kids who have phones locked away all day.

if your kid has an unexpected mid-day doctors appointment, you can just show up at the school and the front office will call their class room. I have had to do it several times for the orthodontist. For anything after school, kids look at their phones the second the school day ends. Employers who hire high school kids are going to have to adjust to kids being unreachable during the day.

Hilarious you think the office knows where a high school kid is at all times. That's not how it works for older kids, honey.

Are you saying the office can’t pull up their schedule and see which class they are supposed to be in?

Older HS students are not always in a class. It is so obvious you have no idea how high school works.

Where are they, then?

They won’t answer that. I’ve already asked. Most kids are in class most of the time, it is school after all. They just want the excuse as to why they need the digital apron string.

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Anonymous wrote:We need dedicated phone lockers. Away all day. If a phone is seen in school more than once by a student, confiscated and parents can pick it up on the following Monday morning, which means at least one weekend without a phone.

Or you can just keep the phone home and stop putting this all on the school to enforce. Be a parent. Set your own controls.

Exactly. Get back to me when your kid drives to school and an after school job, and it would be a huge safety issue not to have a phone.

I know the world has changed, but somehow 25 years ago we were able to drive to school and then work with no phone and it was totally fine.

Soooo tired of this line. Expectations were different then, too. My HS kid literally finds out his work schedule via his boss texting him. Sometimes there’s a schedule change to his sports or band that’s communicated after the school day starts, and I need to tell him to take the bus home after all, or whatever.

I’m not suggesting he should have a phone out in class, but yes “the world has changed.” There are good reasons for a HS kid to have a with them phone before/after school, and for emergencies. I am a proponent of away during class, but I think the pouches are a stupid waste of money. And yes, my kid is finishing up a school year of having the pouch, so my opinion is based on actual experience.

Yes, at the last class of the day they take their phones out of the pouch and check for the plans for the afternoon. I’m not exactly sure why you think it has to be just in time delivery of all changes to the schedule immediately.

You really think the employer is okay with not hearing back if a shift change works until just before the shift starts? That's not how the world works. My kid doesn't work, but I have had to communicate with her during the day to schedule doctor's appointments. By the time she gets home, the doctor's offices have closed. The world works in real time, it doesn't wait for kids who have phones locked away all day.

if your kid has an unexpected mid-day doctors appointment, you can just show up at the school and the front office will call their class room. I have had to do it several times for the orthodontist. For anything after school, kids look at their phones the second the school day ends. Employers who hire high school kids are going to have to adjust to kids being unreachable during the day.

Hilarious you think the office knows where a high school kid is at all times. That's not how it works for older kids, honey.

Are you saying the office can’t pull up their schedule and see which class they are supposed to be in?

Older HS students are not always in a class. It is so obvious you have no idea how high school works.

You realize high schools have managed without cell phones up until now, right? And APS administration and teacher support Away for the Day.

It really sounds like a made up issue by a few helicopter parents. They'll find your kid and send them to the office if you show up to pick them up. It may take a few minutes, but that's better than them being distracted all day all year by rampant cell phones for one hypothetical pick up that may or may not ever happen.

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Anonymous wrote:We need dedicated phone lockers. Away all day. If a phone is seen in school more than once by a student, confiscated and parents can pick it up on the following Monday morning, which means at least one weekend without a phone.

Or you can just keep the phone home and stop putting this all on the school to enforce. Be a parent. Set your own controls.

Exactly. Get back to me when your kid drives to school and an after school job, and it would be a huge safety issue not to have a phone.

I know the world has changed, but somehow 25 years ago we were able to drive to school and then work with no phone and it was totally fine.

Soooo tired of this line. Expectations were different then, too. My HS kid literally finds out his work schedule via his boss texting him. Sometimes there’s a schedule change to his sports or band that’s communicated after the school day starts, and I need to tell him to take the bus home after all, or whatever.

I’m not suggesting he should have a phone out in class, but yes “the world has changed.” There are good reasons for a HS kid to have a with them phone before/after school, and for emergencies. I am a proponent of away during class, but I think the pouches are a stupid waste of money. And yes, my kid is finishing up a school year of having the pouch, so my opinion is based on actual experience.

Yes, at the last class of the day they take their phones out of the pouch and check for the plans for the afternoon. I’m not exactly sure why you think it has to be just in time delivery of all changes to the schedule immediately.

You really think the employer is okay with not hearing back if a shift change works until just before the shift starts? That's not how the world works. My kid doesn't work, but I have had to communicate with her during the day to schedule doctor's appointments. By the time she gets home, the doctor's offices have closed. The world works in real time, it doesn't wait for kids who have phones locked away all day.

if your kid has an unexpected mid-day doctors appointment, you can just show up at the school and the front office will call their class room. I have had to do it several times for the orthodontist. For anything after school, kids look at their phones the second the school day ends. Employers who hire high school kids are going to have to adjust to kids being unreachable during the day.

Hilarious you think the office knows where a high school kid is at all times. That's not how it works for older kids, honey.

Are you saying the office can’t pull up their schedule and see which class they are supposed to be in?

Older HS students are not always in a class. It is so obvious you have no idea how high school works.

You keep saying this but refuse to answer where they would be. My high schooler had two jobs, is an honor roll student, does two sports and orchestra, and spends 90% of their time in school in class.

Where are your kids going?

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Anonymous wrote:We need dedicated phone lockers. Away all day. If a phone is seen in school more than once by a student, confiscated and parents can pick it up on the following Monday morning, which means at least one weekend without a phone.

Or you can just keep the phone home and stop putting this all on the school to enforce. Be a parent. Set your own controls.

Exactly. Get back to me when your kid drives to school and an after school job, and it would be a huge safety issue not to have a phone.

I know the world has changed, but somehow 25 years ago we were able to drive to school and then work with no phone and it was totally fine.

Soooo tired of this line. Expectations were different then, too. My HS kid literally finds out his work schedule via his boss texting him. Sometimes there’s a schedule change to his sports or band that’s communicated after the school day starts, and I need to tell him to take the bus home after all, or whatever.

I’m not suggesting he should have a phone out in class, but yes “the world has changed.” There are good reasons for a HS kid to have a with them phone before/after school, and for emergencies. I am a proponent of away during class, but I think the pouches are a stupid waste of money. And yes, my kid is finishing up a school year of having the pouch, so my opinion is based on actual experience.

Yes, at the last class of the day they take their phones out of the pouch and check for the plans for the afternoon. I’m not exactly sure why you think it has to be just in time delivery of all changes to the schedule immediately.

You really think the employer is okay with not hearing back if a shift change works until just before the shift starts? That's not how the world works. My kid doesn't work, but I have had to communicate with her during the day to schedule doctor's appointments. By the time she gets home, the doctor's offices have closed. The world works in real time, it doesn't wait for kids who have phones locked away all day.

if your kid has an unexpected mid-day doctors appointment, you can just show up at the school and the front office will call their class room. I have had to do it several times for the orthodontist. For anything after school, kids look at their phones the second the school day ends. Employers who hire high school kids are going to have to adjust to kids being unreachable during the day.

Hilarious you think the office knows where a high school kid is at all times. That's not how it works for older kids, honey.

Are you saying the office can’t pull up their schedule and see which class they are supposed to be in?

Older HS students are not always in a class. It is so obvious you have no idea how high school works.

Where are they, then?

DP, but some examples of where my kid has been other than regular class: in a band rehearsal, helping set up for a pep rally, meeting with another teacher/making up an assignment, band performance for other students. Yes, they can eventually tracked down. No, they aren’t always in their scheduled class.

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Anonymous wrote:We need dedicated phone lockers. Away all day. If a phone is seen in school more than once by a student, confiscated and parents can pick it up on the following Monday morning, which means at least one weekend without a phone.

Or you can just keep the phone home and stop putting this all on the school to enforce. Be a parent. Set your own controls.

Exactly. Get back to me when your kid drives to school and an after school job, and it would be a huge safety issue not to have a phone.

I know the world has changed, but somehow 25 years ago we were able to drive to school and then work with no phone and it was totally fine.

Soooo tired of this line. Expectations were different then, too. My HS kid literally finds out his work schedule via his boss texting him. Sometimes there’s a schedule change to his sports or band that’s communicated after the school day starts, and I need to tell him to take the bus home after all, or whatever.

I’m not suggesting he should have a phone out in class, but yes “the world has changed.” There are good reasons for a HS kid to have a with them phone before/after school, and for emergencies. I am a proponent of away during class, but I think the pouches are a stupid waste of money. And yes, my kid is finishing up a school year of having the pouch, so my opinion is based on actual experience.

Yes, at the last class of the day they take their phones out of the pouch and check for the plans for the afternoon. I’m not exactly sure why you think it has to be just in time delivery of all changes to the schedule immediately.

You really think the employer is okay with not hearing back if a shift change works until just before the shift starts? That's not how the world works. My kid doesn't work, but I have had to communicate with her during the day to schedule doctor's appointments. By the time she gets home, the doctor's offices have closed. The world works in real time, it doesn't wait for kids who have phones locked away all day.

if your kid has an unexpected mid-day doctors appointment, you can just show up at the school and the front office will call their class room. I have had to do it several times for the orthodontist. For anything after school, kids look at their phones the second the school day ends. Employers who hire high school kids are going to have to adjust to kids being unreachable during the day.

Hilarious you think the office knows where a high school kid is at all times. That's not how it works for older kids, honey.

Are you saying the office can’t pull up their schedule and see which class they are supposed to be in?

Older HS students are not always in a class. It is so obvious you have no idea how high school works.

Where are they, then?

DP, but some examples of where my kid has been other than regular class: in a band rehearsal, helping set up for a pep rally, meeting with another teacher/making up an assignment, band performance for other students. Yes, they can eventually tracked down. No, they aren’t always in their scheduled class.

Those also aren’t times where they would be on their phone

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Anonymous wrote:We need dedicated phone lockers. Away all day. If a phone is seen in school more than once by a student, confiscated and parents can pick it up on the following Monday morning, which means at least one weekend without a phone.

Or you can just keep the phone home and stop putting this all on the school to enforce. Be a parent. Set your own controls.

Exactly. Get back to me when your kid drives to school and an after school job, and it would be a huge safety issue not to have a phone.

I know the world has changed, but somehow 25 years ago we were able to drive to school and then work with no phone and it was totally fine.

Soooo tired of this line. Expectations were different then, too. My HS kid literally finds out his work schedule via his boss texting him. Sometimes there’s a schedule change to his sports or band that’s communicated after the school day starts, and I need to tell him to take the bus home after all, or whatever.

I’m not suggesting he should have a phone out in class, but yes “the world has changed.” There are good reasons for a HS kid to have a with them phone before/after school, and for emergencies. I am a proponent of away during class, but I think the pouches are a stupid waste of money. And yes, my kid is finishing up a school year of having the pouch, so my opinion is based on actual experience.

Yes, at the last class of the day they take their phones out of the pouch and check for the plans for the afternoon. I’m not exactly sure why you think it has to be just in time delivery of all changes to the schedule immediately.

You really think the employer is okay with not hearing back if a shift change works until just before the shift starts? That's not how the world works. My kid doesn't work, but I have had to communicate with her during the day to schedule doctor's appointments. By the time she gets home, the doctor's offices have closed. The world works in real time, it doesn't wait for kids who have phones locked away all day.

if your kid has an unexpected mid-day doctors appointment, you can just show up at the school and the front office will call their class room. I have had to do it several times for the orthodontist. For anything after school, kids look at their phones the second the school day ends. Employers who hire high school kids are going to have to adjust to kids being unreachable during the day.

Hilarious you think the office knows where a high school kid is at all times. That's not how it works for older kids, honey.

Honey, I'm a high school teacher. Yes, this is how it works, assuming your kid is not skipping class and is where she's supposed to be.

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Anonymous wrote:We need dedicated phone lockers. Away all day. If a phone is seen in school more than once by a student, confiscated and parents can pick it up on the following Monday morning, which means at least one weekend without a phone.

Or you can just keep the phone home and stop putting this all on the school to enforce. Be a parent. Set your own controls.

Exactly. Get back to me when your kid drives to school and an after school job, and it would be a huge safety issue not to have a phone.

It's a huge safety issue to drive without a phone... in Arlington? Your kid can safely walk home from any point in the county.

Let me ask you this. Do you ever get in the car or leave the house without your phone?

Yes, actually. I don't take my phone with me when I run on the mean streets of Arlington. If I'm jumping in the car to quickly grab something at Giant, I often dash out without my phone. And when I'm running errands, I sometimes do forget and leave my phone plugged in in the car.

But i also don't necessarily think that our standards/rules for kids should be set based on what adults do.

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Anonymous wrote:We need dedicated phone lockers. Away all day. If a phone is seen in school more than once by a student, confiscated and parents can pick it up on the following Monday morning, which means at least one weekend without a phone.

Or you can just keep the phone home and stop putting this all on the school to enforce. Be a parent. Set your own controls.

Exactly. Get back to me when your kid drives to school and an after school job, and it would be a huge safety issue not to have a phone.

I know the world has changed, but somehow 25 years ago we were able to drive to school and then work with no phone and it was totally fine.

Soooo tired of this line. Expectations were different then, too. My HS kid literally finds out his work schedule via his boss texting him. Sometimes there’s a schedule change to his sports or band that’s communicated after the school day starts, and I need to tell him to take the bus home after all, or whatever.

I’m not suggesting he should have a phone out in class, but yes “the world has changed.” There are good reasons for a HS kid to have a with them phone before/after school, and for emergencies. I am a proponent of away during class, but I think the pouches are a stupid waste of money. And yes, my kid is finishing up a school year of having the pouch, so my opinion is based on actual experience.

Yes, at the last class of the day they take their phones out of the pouch and check for the plans for the afternoon. I’m not exactly sure why you think it has to be just in time delivery of all changes to the schedule immediately.

You really think the employer is okay with not hearing back if a shift change works until just before the shift starts? That's not how the world works. My kid doesn't work, but I have had to communicate with her during the day to schedule doctor's appointments. By the time she gets home, the doctor's offices have closed. The world works in real time, it doesn't wait for kids who have phones locked away all day.

if your kid has an unexpected mid-day doctors appointment, you can just show up at the school and the front office will call their class room. I have had to do it several times for the orthodontist. For anything after school, kids look at their phones the second the school day ends. Employers who hire high school kids are going to have to adjust to kids being unreachable during the day.

Hilarious you think the office knows where a high school kid is at all times. That's not how it works for older kids, honey.

Are you saying the office can’t pull up their schedule and see which class they are supposed to be in?

Older HS students are not always in a class. It is so obvious you have no idea how high school works.

Where are they, then?

DP, but some examples of where my kid has been other than regular class: in a band rehearsal, helping set up for a pep rally, meeting with another teacher/making up an assignment, band performance for other students. Yes, they can eventually tracked down. No, they aren’t always in their scheduled class.

That is going to be maybe 10% of any given semester. So when you call; they will likely be in class or actually as PP said occupied and unavailable anyway.

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Anonymous wrote:We need dedicated phone lockers. Away all day. If a phone is seen in school more than once by a student, confiscated and parents can pick it up on the following Monday morning, which means at least one weekend without a phone.

Or you can just keep the phone home and stop putting this all on the school to enforce. Be a parent. Set your own controls.

Exactly. Get back to me when your kid drives to school and an after school job, and it would be a huge safety issue not to have a phone.

I know the world has changed, but somehow 25 years ago we were able to drive to school and then work with no phone and it was totally fine.

Soooo tired of this line. Expectations were different then, too. My HS kid literally finds out his work schedule via his boss texting him. Sometimes there’s a schedule change to his sports or band that’s communicated after the school day starts, and I need to tell him to take the bus home after all, or whatever.

I’m not suggesting he should have a phone out in class, but yes “the world has changed.” There are good reasons for a HS kid to have a with them phone before/after school, and for emergencies. I am a proponent of away during class, but I think the pouches are a stupid waste of money. And yes, my kid is finishing up a school year of having the pouch, so my opinion is based on actual experience.

Yes, at the last class of the day they take their phones out of the pouch and check for the plans for the afternoon. I’m not exactly sure why you think it has to be just in time delivery of all changes to the schedule immediately.

You really think the employer is okay with not hearing back if a shift change works until just before the shift starts? That's not how the world works. My kid doesn't work, but I have had to communicate with her during the day to schedule doctor's appointments. By the time she gets home, the doctor's offices have closed. The world works in real time, it doesn't wait for kids who have phones locked away all day.

Employers really shouldn't be bothering high school students at school, nor should parents. That can all get handled after school hours.

You clearly don't have an older kid. No it doesn't work this way. Older kids are starting to manage their own schedules, but parents still have a role too. So coordination does need to happen and dr's offices just are not open after school hours.

On the one hand: consensus of scientific and education professionals who say that cell phone use in school by teens harms the educational environment for teens, including but not limited to: distraction, bullying, anxiety, depression.

On the other hand: some parents (and all the teens) who want to be able to schedule things with their children.

This is why we know your kids are either very young or you see the world as completely black and white with strict rules.

No one believes anyone should spend all day staring at phones. We shouldn’t spend all day on DCUM. Teens shouldn’t spend all day on TikTok or YouTube.

Cell addiction for DCUM, TikTok or YouTube can be a distraction and can get in the way of life. But most rational people see the value of having access to a phone, when needed and appropriate, at a certain age to manage life without going to draconian lockdown.

I posted this and I have both a HS child (YHS) and a MS child. You phone wanters keep reiterating that only parents with very young children want the ban. This is not true. I want the ban and I have kids in APS who can both drive and have extremely complicated schedules that change all the time. And I work.

I totally agree with you that having a phone makes my child’s life easier and mine. So I bough them a phone. I absolutely 100% support them being completely banned at school, during school hours, for all children. I am willing to take the trade off in convenience for that window in exchange for their educational experience and wellbeing.

You are foisting your irrational fear of phones on everyone else.

It’s so irrational that the teachers agree with me. And the expensive private schools. And the scientists. And the state of Virginia. Seems like maybe you should examine who is in the minority here?

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Anonymous wrote:We need dedicated phone lockers. Away all day. If a phone is seen in school more than once by a student, confiscated and parents can pick it up on the following Monday morning, which means at least one weekend without a phone.

Or you can just keep the phone home and stop putting this all on the school to enforce. Be a parent. Set your own controls.

Exactly. Get back to me when your kid drives to school and an after school job, and it would be a huge safety issue not to have a phone.

I know the world has changed, but somehow 25 years ago we were able to drive to school and then work with no phone and it was totally fine.

Soooo tired of this line. Expectations were different then, too. My HS kid literally finds out his work schedule via his boss texting him. Sometimes there’s a schedule change to his sports or band that’s communicated after the school day starts, and I need to tell him to take the bus home after all, or whatever.

I’m not suggesting he should have a phone out in class, but yes “the world has changed.” There are good reasons for a HS kid to have a with them phone before/after school, and for emergencies. I am a proponent of away during class, but I think the pouches are a stupid waste of money. And yes, my kid is finishing up a school year of having the pouch, so my opinion is based on actual experience.

Yes, at the last class of the day they take their phones out of the pouch and check for the plans for the afternoon. I’m not exactly sure why you think it has to be just in time delivery of all changes to the schedule immediately.

You really think the employer is okay with not hearing back if a shift change works until just before the shift starts? That's not how the world works. My kid doesn't work, but I have had to communicate with her during the day to schedule doctor's appointments. By the time she gets home, the doctor's offices have closed. The world works in real time, it doesn't wait for kids who have phones locked away all day.

if your kid has an unexpected mid-day doctors appointment, you can just show up at the school and the front office will call their class room. I have had to do it several times for the orthodontist. For anything after school, kids look at their phones the second the school day ends. Employers who hire high school kids are going to have to adjust to kids being unreachable during the day.

Hilarious you think the office knows where a high school kid is at all times. That's not how it works for older kids, honey.

Honey, I'm a high school teacher. Yes, this is how it works, assuming your kid is not skipping class and is where she's supposed to be.

Honey, I am too. I guess we're not in the same school.

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Anonymous wrote:We need dedicated phone lockers. Away all day. If a phone is seen in school more than once by a student, confiscated and parents can pick it up on the following Monday morning, which means at least one weekend without a phone.

Or you can just keep the phone home and stop putting this all on the school to enforce. Be a parent. Set your own controls.

Exactly. Get back to me when your kid drives to school and an after school job, and it would be a huge safety issue not to have a phone.

I know the world has changed, but somehow 25 years ago we were able to drive to school and then work with no phone and it was totally fine.

Soooo tired of this line. Expectations were different then, too. My HS kid literally finds out his work schedule via his boss texting him. Sometimes there’s a schedule change to his sports or band that’s communicated after the school day starts, and I need to tell him to take the bus home after all, or whatever.

I’m not suggesting he should have a phone out in class, but yes “the world has changed.” There are good reasons for a HS kid to have a with them phone before/after school, and for emergencies. I am a proponent of away during class, but I think the pouches are a stupid waste of money. And yes, my kid is finishing up a school year of having the pouch, so my opinion is based on actual experience.

Yes, at the last class of the day they take their phones out of the pouch and check for the plans for the afternoon. I’m not exactly sure why you think it has to be just in time delivery of all changes to the schedule immediately.

You really think the employer is okay with not hearing back if a shift change works until just before the shift starts? That's not how the world works. My kid doesn't work, but I have had to communicate with her during the day to schedule doctor's appointments. By the time she gets home, the doctor's offices have closed. The world works in real time, it doesn't wait for kids who have phones locked away all day.

Employers really shouldn't be bothering high school students at school, nor should parents. That can all get handled after school hours.

You clearly don't have an older kid. No it doesn't work this way. Older kids are starting to manage their own schedules, but parents still have a role too. So coordination does need to happen and dr's offices just are not open after school hours.

On the one hand: consensus of scientific and education professionals who say that cell phone use in school by teens harms the educational environment for teens, including but not limited to: distraction, bullying, anxiety, depression.

On the other hand: some parents (and all the teens) who want to be able to schedule things with their children.

This is why we know your kids are either very young or you see the world as completely black and white with strict rules.

No one believes anyone should spend all day staring at phones. We shouldn’t spend all day on DCUM. Teens shouldn’t spend all day on TikTok or YouTube.

Cell addiction for DCUM, TikTok or YouTube can be a distraction and can get in the way of life. But most rational people see the value of having access to a phone, when needed and appropriate, at a certain age to manage life without going to draconian lockdown.

I posted this and I have both a HS child (YHS) and a MS child. You phone wanters keep reiterating that only parents with very young children want the ban. This is not true. I want the ban and I have kids in APS who can both drive and have extremely complicated schedules that change all the time. And I work.

I totally agree with you that having a phone makes my child’s life easier and mine. So I bough them a phone. I absolutely 100% support them being completely banned at school, during school hours, for all children. I am willing to take the trade off in convenience for that window in exchange for their educational experience and wellbeing.

You are foisting your irrational fear of phones on everyone else.

It’s so irrational that the teachers agree with me. And the expensive private schools. And the scientists. And the state of Virginia. Seems like maybe you should examine who is in the minority here?

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No, we don't agree with you.

Signed,

a teacher.

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Anonymous wrote:No, we don't agree with you.

Signed,

a teacher.

+1. I’ve been a big advocate against this as a HS teacher and parent. This law or bill or whatever it is has made my job more difficult this past year. Now someone else is dictating how I need to run my classroom when I didn’t have problems before. I do not agree with this.