I would say St Andrews gets more attention than any other UK school on here. Not justified, in my opinion, but I also don’t understand the Tulane or Northeastern fixations on here either. |
It is very easy to understand why. 1) Scottish unis are more aligned with US schools in that it has more flexibility than English universities. It is 4 years so you are allowed to explore 2 or 3 other subjects in your first two years and change majors before your Honours years. 2) Edinburgh, St Andrews and Glasgow get all the attention because they are the top unis in Scotland. So naturally, Americans looking in Scotland would veer towards these schools. 3) These schools understand the US HS system better and are more flexible with AP requirements. 4) No every kid gets in Ivy League schools or Oxbridge. So when compared to the cost of a Private or OOS tuition at a t25 to t60 US school, there is a lot of value here. 5) Add to the above the fact that St Andrews over the last 10 years have ranked in the top 3-4 in their own UK rankings (3 separate ranking publications) make it an easy choice for Americans. Edinburgh and Glasgow are amazing research universities that produce a ton of reasearch and are highly ranked and respected worldwide. Not very complicated. |
Yeah, thanks, I didn’t say I didn’t understand why St Andrews gets so much attention. I just said I didn’t think it was justified. And if anything Edinburgh and Glasgow should get more but St Andrews seems to get more than both of those combined. |
I think part of the reason is that they have really improved their rankings in the UK over the last 20 years. They have consistently been ranked higher than Edinburgh and Glasgow and Aberdeen in the UK rankings and this has affected the quality of UK students attending. Sure Edinburgh and Glasgow are more research oriented. But for pure undergraduate education focus St Andrews has surpassed their rivals in Scotland. Edinburgh historically has been the biggest recipient of US undergraduates. But St Andrews made a huge push to attract Americans 25 years ago and it has paid off. Literally. |
DP. I agree with you on the St. A's front. But Glasgow? Are you serious? Total dump. Even after it was chosen as the Europen City of Culture back in the way back whens... |
Sorry, just meant “Edinburgh and Glasgow” if you buy all of the Scotland university arguments in the PP’s post, not that I think anything particular about Glasgow. |
PP was simply stating what happened….I’m Scottish and there is ‘nothing to buy” here. PP is. Correct. I went to Edinburgh 20 years ago. Edinburgh still remains the top research university in Scotland, which is why it is highly ranked in international rankings. I lived in Hong Kong, Sydney and for the last 5 years in the Bay Area. Edinburgh’s uni reputation is great everywhere. I cant speak for Glasgow other that it is one of the top Scottish unis. But the truth is that in Scotland, St Andrews attracts the best students. If you are a top Scottish student and wants to study something other than engineering and some STEM fields (StA doesnt offer these programmes) then you will have St Andrews on the top of your list. So they do attract the better students. The quality of the rest RUK students applying have also improved above and beyond the other ancient univeristies in Scotland, specially after the Royals attended. |
Also it looks like the other PP was referring to this list of the unis with most Americans attending that another poster shared:
1. University of St Andrews – ≈ 1,810 2. University of Edinburgh – ≈ 960 3. University of Oxford – ≈ 720 |
4. University of Glasgow – ≈ 560 |
Edinburgh University was established in 1583 It has been a success literally for centuries before your experience. |
Of course. I never discredited my own uni. I’m fully aware of Edinburgh’s influence in the American university system. I’m not sure where you and I disagree on ? |
St Andrews uses the Common App…that’s literally why it has seen a big uptick in US applications. |
This is a blip in terms of the number of US college students which I believe is around 16MM. Now, maybe a million are applying and this is all that gets in…but I doubt it. |
What does this have to do with the thread? |
Are you saying the people in Scotland are misers? |