The impact of a senior backing out of college commitment

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If this is ED, it’s a serious breech. Counselors can withhold final transcripts.

That would be ridiculous and the height of jackassery to ruin a kid's future like that

Will you stop saying made up words like “jackassery” and “woke” on multiple threads. It’s annoying and makes you sounds like a rube.

You are talking to at least 1000 posters on DCUM and thousands more in real life.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If this is ED, it’s a serious breech. Counselors can withhold final transcripts.

That would be ridiculous and the height of jackassery to ruin a kid's future like that

At our HS parents, student and counselor signed a contract saying student wouldn’t back out. Isn’t that standard?

Life circumstances change.

In the end, it is just a piece of paper. You have to do what is in the best interest of your kid's future.

It's not cool to make a commitment to ED and agree that if you are admitted, you'll pull all other apps. You do have to sign something to confirm your intent. I'm surprised that some here don't see to understand this. If you don't like this agreement, then there is Regular Decision. This isn't that complicated.

[Anonymous]

You don’t need a counselor to submit a transcript. Just request it from the school and send it yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you still have younger children who will attend the school that could be a problem for them/you when it is their turn to apply for colleges

It is safe to assume that a university that goes through 50,000-80,000 applications each year is not going to keep track that Larla's big brother declined his acceptance 4 years and over 200,000 applications ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If this is ED, it’s a serious breech. Counselors can withhold final transcripts.

That would be ridiculous and the height of jackassery to ruin a kid's future like that

Will you stop saying made up words like “jackassery” and “woke” on multiple threads. It’s annoying and makes you sounds like a rube.

DP. Perhaps you could stop using silly words like “rube” on multiple threads. It’s annoying and makes you sound like a jackass.

Pure jackassery if you ask me

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Backing out of an ED commitment to highly selective schools ends up hurting so many other kids. But bad families exist. Private schools can expel these families, but there's not much public schools can do. Trashy people are trashy people. Universities will make a note of the school and move on to the other 25,000 high schools out there. If you are wondering why no one from your school gets in to certain colleges, that's why.

Oh please. Get over yourself, and your "highly selective school" worship.

Schools are businesses, just like Target.

If my DC gets an ED acceptance and, for whatever reason, decides 4 months later that they want to go somewhere else, or just not go to the acceptance school, that is life. Yes, I'll lose a deposit. But it may be worth it to us, for whatever reason.

The school will not fall apart because my child or your's does not attend in the end.

You must be new to how college admissions work at top 20 schools. Reneging on an ED contract absolutely hurts other students and the high school. Which is why most good private high schools are absolutely livid when a family chooses this. No top 20 school takes more than a handful of students from a particular high school. That kid took a spot that could have gone to another student and it pisses everyone off when families do this. And high schools are absolutely blacklisted when there’s a pattern of students reneging on ED contracts.

The only exception is when a financial aid package does not match the NPC. Or there has been a change in financial circumstances. But typically T20 private schools will deal with that and make the numbers work.

So it’s almost always a d&ck move by families who do this.

No this is utter BS.

No college works this way with acceptances.

Privates don't lose a slot because a student reneged.

Slots are not done per HS that is absurd. Keep reading the koolaid MAGA.

Yeah, that is not a maga thing. It is a fsr left liberal upper DC private school thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Backing out of an ED commitment to highly selective schools ends up hurting so many other kids. But bad families exist. Private schools can expel these families, but there's not much public schools can do. Trashy people are trashy people. Universities will make a note of the school and move on to the other 25,000 high schools out there. If you are wondering why no one from your school gets in to certain colleges, that's why.

Make it make sense. Are they gonna expel the student the last week of school? I don’t think so.

The entire school could be BLACKLISTED

Yeah, right.

Just like TPing someone's house in the 1980s was Going To Go On Your Permanent Record.

Oh so you’ve always thought the rules don’t apply to you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you still have younger children who will attend the school that could be a problem for them/you when it is their turn to apply for colleges

It is safe to assume that a university that goes through 50,000-80,000 applications each year is not going to keep track that Larla's big brother declined his acceptance 4 years and over 200,000 applications ago.

Different poster and different circumstances, but I’m not entirely sure if this is true. Our oldest was accepted to Notre Dame and turned it down, and several years later our younger daughter, who was better qualified and actually visited the Notre Dame campus, applied and was rejected. Not even waitlisted. And she was a legacy.

She was unfazed because it was never a top choice of hers, and she landed on her feet fine, but we had to wonder if our older daughter’s decision had an impact.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It happened again at our school. A senior recently backed out of a commitment to a very selective college in order to attend another very selective college in the same region.

Why do parents allow this? It HURTS future applicants from the school -- those who would have been really happy to accept and keep their word.

Good grief. This is ridiculous. Kids cannot choose a college based on some hypothetical theory about hurting chances of others later.

They shouldn't be applying ED if they aren't going to be keeping th signed commitment they made to the College and to the College Guidance office. And yes, a high school would be well within their rights to withhold the official transcript from the new school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What exactly happened, OP?

There is NOTHING wrong with a kid accepting a regular decision spot somewhere, paying the deposit, and then ditching that school once she gets in the waitlist somewhere else. That is totally allowed.

And yeah, I will teach my kid to make the best decision FOR HERSELF and not focus on the classes coming after her. She should decline a waitlist spot she wants because of some unknown junior who might want to go to the original school!! Yeah, no.

Then they shouldn't be signing a legal document codifying their withdraw of applications from other school should they be admitted ED.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If this is ED, it’s a serious breech. Counselors can withhold final transcripts.

That would be ridiculous and the height of jackassery to ruin a kid's future like that

Well that's exactly what breaking an ED agreement is, isn't it?

No, going after a 17 year old kid for taking advantage of a different opportunity than the one they thought they wanted 6 months ago but realized they didn't is the only jackassery here.

The only future at stake is the kid picking a different school, no one else.

Any counselor who gets vindictive over this and withholds a kid's final transcript should not be working as a counselor

+1. Counselors do not get this worked up about it. They know it’s going to happen every year

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Backing out of an ED commitment to highly selective schools ends up hurting so many other kids. But bad families exist. Private schools can expel these families, but there's not much public schools can do. Trashy people are trashy people. Universities will make a note of the school and move on to the other 25,000 high schools out there. If you are wondering why no one from your school gets in to certain colleges, that's why.

Oh please. Get over yourself, and your "highly selective school" worship.

Schools are businesses, just like Target.

If my DC gets an ED acceptance and, for whatever reason, decides 4 months later that they want to go somewhere else, or just not go to the acceptance school, that is life. Yes, I'll lose a deposit. But it may be worth it to us, for whatever reason.

The school will not fall apart because my child or your's does not attend in the end.

You must be new to how college admissions work at top 20 schools. Reneging on an ED contract absolutely hurts other students and the high school. Which is why most good private high schools are absolutely livid when a family chooses this. No top 20 school takes more than a handful of students from a particular high school. That kid took a spot that could have gone to another student and it pisses everyone off when families do this. And high schools are absolutely blacklisted when there’s a pattern of students reneging on ED contracts.

The only exception is when a financial aid package does not match the NPC. Or there has been a change in financial circumstances. But typically T20 private schools will deal with that and make the numbers work.

So it’s almost always a d&ck move by families who do this.

No this is utter BS.

No college works this way with acceptances.

Privates don't lose a slot because a student reneged.

Slots are not done per HS that is absurd. Keep reading the koolaid MAGA.

not for the current cycle, but it absolutely puts future applicants from the school on the sh!tlist. Ask me how I know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You don’t need a counselor to submit a transcript. Just request it from the school and send it yourself.

That’s not considered official and the college will REJECT it. Just for a second maybe consider you aren’t as smart as you think you are when you try to game the system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you still have younger children who will attend the school that could be a problem for them/you when it is their turn to apply for colleges

It is safe to assume that a university that goes through 50,000-80,000 applications each year is not going to keep track that Larla's big brother declined his acceptance 4 years and over 200,000 applications ago.

Different poster and different circumstances, but I’m not entirely sure if this is true. Our oldest was accepted to Notre Dame and turned it down, and several years later our younger daughter, who was better qualified and actually visited the Notre Dame campus, applied and was rejected. Not even waitlisted. And she was a legacy.

She was unfazed because it was never a top choice of hers, and she landed on her feet fine, but we had to wonder if our older daughter’s decision had an impact.

Might be due to the older brother. However, it's more likely that several years made a difference bc Notre Dame's selectivity has changed pretty rapidly in the past decade.

[Anonymous]

The fact that OP never came back and clarified facts and details, like whether this was an ED commitment, suggests we probably don’t need to be worked up about it.