Virginia man arrested for shooting and killing teen casing house for burglary and/or "filming a prank video" at 3am

[Anonymous]

I’d rather be judged by 12 than carried out by 6.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wasn’t there a case recently when a woman got lost, tried to ask for directions only to be shot by a homeowner?

Yes and a young black boy when his bus dropped him at the wrong stop.

Yup. https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/10/12/us/michigan-man-shooting-at-teen-asking-directions

[Anonymous]

Knowing only what I have read about this case:

- The homeowner likely acted illegally when he shot the kid, because he didn't meet the technical definition of self defense, in fear for his life, etc.

- If I am on his jury, he is either getting acquitted or, at a minimum, there is a hung jury. No way am I voting to convict, based on what I know now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That little motherfuϲkеr deserved what he got. I would have immediately shot him in the head. Parents, teach your kids not to do these stupid pranks and this won't happen.

Knock on doors?

You know damn well this wasn’t just an innocent door knock. Stop trying to gaslight this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Spotsylvania has had racial problems in the past. The SO is very much a gold old boys network.
The fact the homeowner is in jail still is kinda mind blowing.

You shoot someone in the back, you go to jail.

That didn't happen when the FBI shot Dillinger in the back...

The FBI has been the most powerful criminal organization in this country since its founding.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Spotsylvania has had racial problems in the past. The SO is very much a gold old boys network.
The fact the homeowner is in jail still is kinda mind blowing.

You shoot someone in the back, you go to jail.

That didn't happen when the FBI shot Dillinger in the back...

The FBI has been the most powerful criminal organization in this country since its founding.

RuhRoh, J. Edgars ghost gonna stalk you now. Watch for anyone in a Tutu dress!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wasn’t there a case recently when a woman got lost, tried to ask for directions only to be shot by a homeowner?

Yes and a young black boy when his bus dropped him at the wrong stop.

There was one in Michigan where the boy allegedly missed his bus. He was in the 9th or 10th grade, which I'm not sure is young. He allegedly tried to walk to his alt high school and claimed to have gotten lost. Then allegedly tried to enter a home with an unlocked door. Said he was "asking for directions." Who knocks on random suburban doors for directions in 2025? Nobody I know. Doesn't even matter if any of this is true, lib prosecutors will railroad anyone in their crosshairs to benefit their career.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Where does it say in the article that he was shot in the back? I didn’t read that in there anywhere.

The actual facts, more of which are probably not in the short article, are what matter. In Virginia you can shot someone if you think your life is in imminent danger. If a group of male teens are banging on my door, on my porch, trespassing on my property, and not leaving right away, what else do I think theyre there to do but break in.

I had teens at 4am come into my fenced in yard, wander around, high out of their mind. My bedroom is in the front of the house, they woke me up, I looked out the window, opened the window and yelled I was calling the police. They ran. If they were banging on the door over and over, or ringing the doorbell repeatedly, I would definitely get scared. People act like 911 comes right away, if they even answer at all.

But you shouldn’t open the door to shoot them. If you truly are in fear of your life, you grab your gun but keep the doors shut and locked, then shoot if they come in.

I don’t have much sympathy for someone who goes outside and then claims they shot in self defense. Someone’s at my door, I grab my kids, call the police, lock ourselves in the bathroom, and shoot only if they try to come into the bathroom after I’ve shouted I’m armed.

No where does any article say he shot the kid in the back nor does it say he opened the door and shot them. WE DONT KNOW. why do posters just make up facts? You’re making stuff up.

And in Virginia, you don’t have to give a warning.

I'm not making stuff up. The PP literally said "if people are banging on my door I assume they are breaking in".

We can all agree that if someone breaks into your house, yes, it's okay to shoot them.

But if someone is on your porch and you open the door, it doesn't sound like you're actually in fear for your life.

Give the stranger on your porch at 3 a.m.
e sure to enough time to see what he is going to do, right? If he breaks in and is armed and shoots you or lets his buddies hiding behind bushes, then you can defend yourself.

+1 Be sure to let yourself get hurt before you protect yourself and your family.

[Anonymous]

DCUM would have the homeowner invite the gentlemen in for some coffee and a restorative justice conversation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Knowing only what I have read about this case:

- The homeowner likely acted illegally when he shot the kid, because he didn't meet the technical definition of self defense, in fear for his life, etc.

- If I am on his jury, he is either getting acquitted or, at a minimum, there is a hung jury. No way am I voting to convict, based on what I know now.

What have you read that gives any indication/evidence for your first point? There are barely any facts about this case made public.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DCUM would have the homeowner invite the gentlemen in for some coffee and a restorative justice conversation.

And MAGA would say shoot them as they’re driving away.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I tell my boys that they need to remember that they should assume that every car and every home has a guy with a gun who is itching to use it against someone like them. Triple for Virginia.

It's sad but kids make choices that put them in harms way. Triple for boys.

You tell them that but not, “don’t go ringing random doorbells at 3 am?”

Just curious whether you were born stupid or dropped on your head as a baby?

My boys know not to ring a random doorbell at 3:00 in the afternoon. We consider approaching a stranger's house at any hour to be a risky and dangerous thing.
Don't worry, they'll let you cut them off in traffic for the same reason.