Virginia man arrested for shooting and killing teen casing house for burglary and/or "filming a prank video" at 3am

[Anonymous]

This is definitely a men problem, all around. Young men have to be restricted or they just die/go to prison for stuff like this.

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Anonymous wrote:Will be interesting to see how this plays out. Homeowner was black, teen was white. Allegedly the homeowner thought the teens were trying to break in.

Which is not a wild assumption at 3am. But.. you can't shoot someone in the back either, as that's not self defense.

Not sure about VA law, but in many states you can if you think they are making off with property, or are possibly committing arson.

No you can't. Did ChatGPT tell you that? It was wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:I think this type of “prank” of deliberately waking people up when they’re sleeping peacefully in their own homes be considered criminal mischief with a two strikes as misdemeanor and the third occurrence is a felony with mandatory prison time. And the criminal mischief should involve anything, not just the door knocking or ringing. No plea deals allowed. We need zero tolerance. The parents obviously aren’t raising these kids so society needs to do it. And fine the parents at the same time for neglecting their parental responsibilities.

The kids hide their faces so it's hard to trace them. This is going on in our neighborhood as well.

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Anonymous wrote:Obviously this is a tragic situation, but come on - parents, teach your kids not to engage in this sort of stupidity for tiktok or whatever it is they’re doing. This was a worst case scenario outcome, but imagine this was an elderly woman living alone, or a couple with young kids…having random people at your house at 3 am would be terrifying. Don’t be selfish.

Men are a menace... I can't think of one single woman who'd shoot a kid in the back for running away from her front porch. I live alone and if someone knocked on my door at 3am, I wouldn't open the door or even try to, maybe call the police if someone needed help but that's about it. That's what peepholes are for, and door cams, not that I have one of those either.

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Anonymous wrote:Where does it say in the article that he was shot in the back? I didn’t read that in there anywhere.

The actual facts, more of which are probably not in the short article, are what matter. In Virginia you can shot someone if you think your life is in imminent danger. If a group of male teens are banging on my door, on my porch, trespassing on my property, and not leaving right away, what else do I think theyre there to do but break in.

I had teens at 4am come into my fenced in yard, wander around, high out of their mind. My bedroom is in the front of the house, they woke me up, I looked out the window, opened the window and yelled I was calling the police. They ran. If they were banging on the door over and over, or ringing the doorbell repeatedly, I would definitely get scared. People act like 911 comes right away, if they even answer at all.

But you shouldn’t open the door to shoot them. If you truly are in fear of your life, you grab your gun but keep the doors shut and locked, then shoot if they come in.

I don’t have much sympathy for someone who goes outside and then claims they shot in self defense. Someone’s at my door, I grab my kids, call the police, lock ourselves in the bathroom, and shoot only if they try to come into the bathroom after I’ve shouted I’m armed.

No where does any article say he shot the kid in the back nor does it say he opened the door and shot them. WE DONT KNOW. why do posters just make up facts? You’re making stuff up.

And in Virginia, you don’t have to give a warning.

I'm not making stuff up. The PP literally said "if people are banging on my door I assume they are breaking in".

We can all agree that if someone breaks into your house, yes, it's okay to shoot them.

But if someone is on your porch and you open the door, it doesn't sound like you're actually in fear for your life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is definitely a men problem, all around. Young men have to be restricted or they just die/go to prison for stuff like this.

I once read that crime would decrease by something like 95% if all males were locked up from ages 15-25.

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Anonymous wrote:Where does it say in the article that he was shot in the back? I didn’t read that in there anywhere.

The actual facts, more of which are probably not in the short article, are what matter. In Virginia you can shot someone if you think your life is in imminent danger. If a group of male teens are banging on my door, on my porch, trespassing on my property, and not leaving right away, what else do I think theyre there to do but break in.

I had teens at 4am come into my fenced in yard, wander around, high out of their mind. My bedroom is in the front of the house, they woke me up, I looked out the window, opened the window and yelled I was calling the police. They ran. If they were banging on the door over and over, or ringing the doorbell repeatedly, I would definitely get scared. People act like 911 comes right away, if they even answer at all.

But you shouldn’t open the door to shoot them. If you truly are in fear of your life, you grab your gun but keep the doors shut and locked, then shoot if they come in.

I don’t have much sympathy for someone who goes outside and then claims they shot in self defense. Someone’s at my door, I grab my kids, call the police, lock ourselves in the bathroom, and shoot only if they try to come into the bathroom after I’ve shouted I’m armed.

No where does any article say he shot the kid in the back nor does it say he opened the door and shot them. WE DONT KNOW. why do posters just make up facts? You’re making stuff up.

And in Virginia, you don’t have to give a warning.

I'm not making stuff up. The PP literally said "if people are banging on my door I assume they are breaking in".

We can all agree that if someone breaks into your house, yes, it's okay to shoot them.

But if someone is on your porch and you open the door, it doesn't sound like you're actually in fear for your life.

People are making up that the kid was shot in the back and that someone opened a door and started firing, including you.

I have searched for more information on this case and no where did I see either of those “facts” released. While it is frustrating to not know everything that happened, and I certainly am curious and want to know too, posters posting fake info never helps.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is definitely a men problem, all around. Young men have to be restricted or they just die/go to prison for stuff like this.

I once read that crime would decrease by something like 95% if all males were locked up from ages 15-25.

Maybe if we gave them all low dose estrogen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Obviously this is a tragic situation, but come on - parents, teach your kids not to engage in this sort of stupidity for tiktok or whatever it is they’re doing. This was a worst case scenario outcome, but imagine this was an elderly woman living alone, or a couple with young kids…having random people at your house at 3 am would be terrifying. Don’t be selfish.

+ 1 million

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I feel really bad for the boy. These types of pranks are a common discussion in my Facebook neighborhood group. Kids doing dingdong ditches and then there was a time when they were kicking at doors. Don’t do, it it’s dumb! You never know when somebody is going to react away that homeowner did.

They should hold the parents accountable. That is not ok.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where does it say in the article that he was shot in the back? I didn’t read that in there anywhere.

The actual facts, more of which are probably not in the short article, are what matter. In Virginia you can shot someone if you think your life is in imminent danger. If a group of male teens are banging on my door, on my porch, trespassing on my property, and not leaving right away, what else do I think theyre there to do but break in.

I had teens at 4am come into my fenced in yard, wander around, high out of their mind. My bedroom is in the front of the house, they woke me up, I looked out the window, opened the window and yelled I was calling the police. They ran. If they were banging on the door over and over, or ringing the doorbell repeatedly, I would definitely get scared. People act like 911 comes right away, if they even answer at all.

But you shouldn’t open the door to shoot them. If you truly are in fear of your life, you grab your gun but keep the doors shut and locked, then shoot if they come in.

I don’t have much sympathy for someone who goes outside and then claims they shot in self defense. Someone’s at my door, I grab my kids, call the police, lock ourselves in the bathroom, and shoot only if they try to come into the bathroom after I’ve shouted I’m armed.

No where does any article say he shot the kid in the back nor does it say he opened the door and shot them. WE DONT KNOW. why do posters just make up facts? You’re making stuff up.

And in Virginia, you don’t have to give a warning.

I'm not making stuff up. The PP literally said "if people are banging on my door I assume they are breaking in".

We can all agree that if someone breaks into your house, yes, it's okay to shoot them.

But if someone is on your porch and you open the door, it doesn't sound like you're actually in fear for your life.

People are making up that the kid was shot in the back and that someone opened a door and started firing, including you.

I have searched for more information on this case and no where did I see either of those “facts” released. While it is frustrating to not know everything that happened, and I certainly am curious and want to know too, posters posting fake info never helps.

They went on private property to terrorize the family.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel really bad for the boy. These types of pranks are a common discussion in my Facebook neighborhood group. Kids doing dingdong ditches and then there was a time when they were kicking at doors. Don’t do, it it’s dumb! You never know when somebody is going to react away that homeowner did.

I don’t. He and his friends are morons. Beyond stupid. And totally without empathy of their actions. As another poster said - what if this were an elderly woman who lived there? They could’ve caused a heart attack with this nonsense.


I feel bad for the homeowner.

I’m not really on-board with what he did, but I understand. You shouldn’t shoot people running away in the back unless they’re shooting at you. Otherwise you have to let them run. I dunno if I could convict if I’m on that jury.

The homeowner was trying to protect his family from what he thought was a burglar. His life is ruined too.

[Anonymous]

I'm on the side of the homeowner as well. Some families in Brambleton have been abused repeatedly. The kids aren't ringing the doorbell and running. They actually try to kick in the door. Peoples doors have been damaged. Imagine that at 3 in the morning. There is video but the kids wear masks. The parents have to know they are out doing this but don't care.

[Anonymous]

FO phase.

Darwin at work.

Dumbass kid. I can’t believe his girlfriend went to prom anyway. What a cold hearted see you next Tuesday.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Spotsylvania has had racial problems in the past. The SO is very much a gold old boys network.
The fact the homeowner is in jail still is kinda mind blowing.

Gun rights are only for whites, silly