More Deportations to CECOT?!?

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Anonymous wrote:Terrifying people is the point. They are trying to get people to flee out of fear.

The problem is, they are rolling up US citizens, green card holders etc and at some point, they will roll up "democrats" and "terrorists" because they can; unless they are stopped.

Nearly half of voters voted for Kamala. Are they planning on shipping everyone down there?

They don’t need to ship everyone down there to solidify their power. They only need to ship a small number of political enemies down there to silence dissenter and make people fearful.

I don’t understand why people who are not even from El Salvador are being sent there. I mean, technically, if you are here illegally you should not be here and should be removed to wherever you came from. I’m not sure why El Salvador is becoming a middle man.

Because Venezuela refused to take them back.

Yup. So it turns out that you don’t have to go home, but you can’t stay here.

I’m 💯 ok with sending illegal aliens to third countries if their government won’t take them back.

But why to prisons? Why aren’t they being given the option to live freely given that other country is willing to accept them and they’ve committed no crime?

They had the option to go elsewhere right up until they get picked up for deportation. They were here illegally and they knew it. Getting deported is not a vacation or concierge service where they get to pick an adventure.

DP. Oh please...if your DC got picked up for some visa infraction while studying in, say, the UK and was "deported" to a prison in, say, Rwanda, would you feel the same?

Also, can you explain why your president wants El Salvador to build 4-5 more prisons in El Salvador to house US "home growns"?

I think Trump just said that to take the piss out of people like you.

Ah yes, everything Trump says is genius, until it's actually a joke, until he actually does it; then, he has a secret plan that none of the stupid libs can understand.

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Anonymous wrote:Terrifying people is the point. They are trying to get people to flee out of fear.

The problem is, they are rolling up US citizens, green card holders etc and at some point, they will roll up "democrats" and "terrorists" because they can; unless they are stopped.

Nearly half of voters voted for Kamala. Are they planning on shipping everyone down there?

They don’t need to ship everyone down there to solidify their power. They only need to ship a small number of political enemies down there to silence dissenter and make people fearful.

I don’t understand why people who are not even from El Salvador are being sent there. I mean, technically, if you are here illegally you should not be here and should be removed to wherever you came from. I’m not sure why El Salvador is becoming a middle man.

Because Venezuela refused to take them back.

Yup. So it turns out that you don’t have to go home, but you can’t stay here.

I’m 💯 ok with sending illegal aliens to third countries if their government won’t take them back.

But why to prisons? Why aren’t they being given the option to live freely given that other country is willing to accept them and they’ve committed no crime?

They've committed crimes. They just have no criminal record. Not uncommon with gang members.

That is not how the system works. You are anti-American.

We do not send people to prison without due process because someone can lie (like you just did, having absolutely no knowledge about all the Venezuelans) and innocent people could end up in a concentration camp.

I will repeat: Our Constitution guarantees due process so that liars cannot send innocent people to concentration camps for life.

If you have evidence, you would use the court system. You are no using the court system because you do not have evidence. You are doing what fascist regimes do. At least come out and admit it.

They are not being put on trial for a crime. They are illegal immigrants who are members of TdA. Venezuela wouldn't take them back, so they ended up in El Salvador.
I read that now Venezuela is taking them back, so the issue is moot.

DP. Not trying to be argumentative but how do you know whether or not these individuals were members of TdA--or any other gang? The administration did not provide any evidence. THEY DON'T FEEL THEY HAVE TO. That's part of the problem.

Another thing that's happened on this front is that recently the Supreme Court issued a temporary injunction halting the deportation of a group of Venezuelan migrants detained in Texas under the Alien Enemies Act. This action came in response to an emergency petition filed by the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), which argued that the detainees had not been given adequate notice or the opportunity to contest their removal in court.​ In its brief, unsigned order, the Court stated:​

“The government is directed not to remove any member of the putative class of detainees from the United States until further order of this court.” ​
This directive effectively pauses the deportations until the Court can further review the case. Justices Samuel Alito and Clarence Thomas dissented from this decision. ​

Previously, on April 7, 2025, the Supreme Court addressed the procedural aspects of such deportations. In that ruling, the Court emphasized that individuals detained under the Alien Enemies Act are entitled to:​ “Notice and an opportunity to challenge their removal.” ​

Obviously these action by the SC are not the final word on the matter, but they do show that the SC court is interested in due process--for now.

The administration does not have to provide evidence, unless there is a habeas claim. That is what the ACLU is bringing before the Supreme Court.
The Supreme Court already ruled the government has to provide notice, which it did.

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Anonymous wrote:Terrifying people is the point. They are trying to get people to flee out of fear.

The problem is, they are rolling up US citizens, green card holders etc and at some point, they will roll up "democrats" and "terrorists" because they can; unless they are stopped.

Nearly half of voters voted for Kamala. Are they planning on shipping everyone down there?

They don’t need to ship everyone down there to solidify their power. They only need to ship a small number of political enemies down there to silence dissenter and make people fearful.

I don’t understand why people who are not even from El Salvador are being sent there. I mean, technically, if you are here illegally you should not be here and should be removed to wherever you came from. I’m not sure why El Salvador is becoming a middle man.

Because Venezuela refused to take them back.

Yup. So it turns out that you don’t have to go home, but you can’t stay here.

I’m 💯 ok with sending illegal aliens to third countries if their government won’t take them back.

Keep up. The Venezuelan government has been accepting back its citizens since March. The deportees sent to CECOT were Venezuelan and Salvadoran.

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/venezuela-receives-hundreds-deported-migrants-us-after-flights-restart-2025-03-24/

Venezuela canceled that. I read they then started accepting flights again after people were being sent to CECOT.
That would contradict this thread, unless the new AEA deportations are to Venezuela.

DP. Not sure what an AEA deportation is but apparently Venezuela has been accepting deportation flights from the US since March 23.

My question now is: who else is Trump planning to send to CECOT, other than Salvadorans, since they can no longer send Venezuelans there?


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/venezuela-reaches-deal-to-accept-deportation-flights-from-u-s/

Alien Enemies Act.
I don't remember the timing, but Venezuela stopped accepting flights after earlier agreeing to them. I think now Venezuela is accepting flights.

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Anonymous wrote:Terrifying people is the point. They are trying to get people to flee out of fear.

The problem is, they are rolling up US citizens, green card holders etc and at some point, they will roll up "democrats" and "terrorists" because they can; unless they are stopped.

Nearly half of voters voted for Kamala. Are they planning on shipping everyone down there?

They don’t need to ship everyone down there to solidify their power. They only need to ship a small number of political enemies down there to silence dissenter and make people fearful.

I don’t understand why people who are not even from El Salvador are being sent there. I mean, technically, if you are here illegally you should not be here and should be removed to wherever you came from. I’m not sure why El Salvador is becoming a middle man.

Because Venezuela refused to take them back.

Yup. So it turns out that you don’t have to go home, but you can’t stay here.

I’m 💯 ok with sending illegal aliens to third countries if their government won’t take them back.

But why to prisons? Why aren’t they being given the option to live freely given that other country is willing to accept them and they’ve committed no crime?

They've committed crimes. They just have no criminal record. Not uncommon with gang members.

That is not how the system works. You are anti-American.

We do not send people to prison without due process because someone can lie (like you just did, having absolutely no knowledge about all the Venezuelans) and innocent people could end up in a concentration camp.

I will repeat: Our Constitution guarantees due process so that liars cannot send innocent people to concentration camps for life.

If you have evidence, you would use the court system. You are no using the court system because you do not have evidence. You are doing what fascist regimes do. At least come out and admit it.

They are not being put on trial for a crime. They are illegal immigrants who are members of TdA. Venezuela wouldn't take them back, so they ended up in El Salvador.
I read that now Venezuela is taking them back, so the issue is moot.

So much misinformation. Are you having trouble keeping the facts in your head?

Here is a question for you: If they were sent to El Salvador only because Maduro wouldn't take them, please explain why a flight of Venezuelans had to be stopped by the Supreme Court on Saturday morning.

We don't know where the flight of Venezuelans was headed.

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Anonymous wrote:Terrifying people is the point. They are trying to get people to flee out of fear.

The problem is, they are rolling up US citizens, green card holders etc and at some point, they will roll up "democrats" and "terrorists" because they can; unless they are stopped.

Nearly half of voters voted for Kamala. Are they planning on shipping everyone down there?

They don’t need to ship everyone down there to solidify their power. They only need to ship a small number of political enemies down there to silence dissenter and make people fearful.

I don’t understand why people who are not even from El Salvador are being sent there. I mean, technically, if you are here illegally you should not be here and should be removed to wherever you came from. I’m not sure why El Salvador is becoming a middle man.

Because Venezuela refused to take them back.

Yup. So it turns out that you don’t have to go home, but you can’t stay here.

I’m 💯 ok with sending illegal aliens to third countries if their government won’t take them back.

But why to prisons? Why aren’t they being given the option to live freely given that other country is willing to accept them and they’ve committed no crime?

They had the option to go elsewhere right up until they get picked up for deportation. They were here illegally and they knew it. Getting deported is not a vacation or concierge service where they get to pick an adventure.

DP. Oh please...if your DC got picked up for some visa infraction while studying in, say, the UK and was "deported" to a prison in, say, Rwanda, would you feel the same?

Also, can you explain why your president wants El Salvador to build 4-5 more prisons in El Salvador to house US "home growns"?

I think Trump just said that to take the piss out of people like you.

Perhaps he meant 'homeboys' which is one level higher then Cheoque that Garcia was. It is not clear if Garcia moved up to the level of 'homeboy' or perhaps he left the gang after failing to achieve promotion.

[Anonymous]

When Joe Rogan is the voice of reason on due process…

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Anonymous wrote:Terrifying people is the point. They are trying to get people to flee out of fear.

The problem is, they are rolling up US citizens, green card holders etc and at some point, they will roll up "democrats" and "terrorists" because they can; unless they are stopped.

Nearly half of voters voted for Kamala. Are they planning on shipping everyone down there?

They don’t need to ship everyone down there to solidify their power. They only need to ship a small number of political enemies down there to silence dissenter and make people fearful.

I don’t understand why people who are not even from El Salvador are being sent there. I mean, technically, if you are here illegally you should not be here and should be removed to wherever you came from. I’m not sure why El Salvador is becoming a middle man.

Because Venezuela refused to take them back.

Yup. So it turns out that you don’t have to go home, but you can’t stay here.

I’m 💯 ok with sending illegal aliens to third countries if their government won’t take them back.

But why to prisons? Why aren’t they being given the option to live freely given that other country is willing to accept them and they’ve committed no crime?

They had the option to go elsewhere right up until they get picked up for deportation. They were here illegally and they knew it. Getting deported is not a vacation or concierge service where they get to pick an adventure.

DP. Oh please...if your DC got picked up for some visa infraction while studying in, say, the UK and was "deported" to a prison in, say, Rwanda, would you feel the same?

Also, can you explain why your president wants El Salvador to build 4-5 more prisons in El Salvador to house US "home growns"?

I think Trump just said that to take the piss out of people like you.

Yeah, except the first time he said it he was caught saying it on a hot mic during his meeting with Bukale. So it wasn’t actually to take the piss out of anyone the first time he said it. Trump 2.0 says a lot of things out loud and this time around you should take them literally.

[Anonymous]

Now Bukele trying to prison swap with Venezuela. He says they’re harboring murderers, while the El Salvadorans in Venezuela were wrongly imprisoned for freedom of speech violations. So, the felon used taxpayer $$ to play chess with people’s lives, as a bargaining chip for a dictator. Lovely.

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Anonymous wrote:Terrifying people is the point. They are trying to get people to flee out of fear.

The problem is, they are rolling up US citizens, green card holders etc and at some point, they will roll up "democrats" and "terrorists" because they can; unless they are stopped.

Nearly half of voters voted for Kamala. Are they planning on shipping everyone down there?

They don’t need to ship everyone down there to solidify their power. They only need to ship a small number of political enemies down there to silence dissenter and make people fearful.

I don’t understand why people who are not even from El Salvador are being sent there. I mean, technically, if you are here illegally you should not be here and should be removed to wherever you came from. I’m not sure why El Salvador is becoming a middle man.

Because Venezuela refused to take them back.

Yup. So it turns out that you don’t have to go home, but you can’t stay here.

I’m 💯 ok with sending illegal aliens to third countries if their government won’t take them back.

But why to prisons? Why aren’t they being given the option to live freely given that other country is willing to accept them and they’ve committed no crime?

They've committed crimes. They just have no criminal record. Not uncommon with gang members.

That is not how the system works. You are anti-American.

We do not send people to prison without due process because someone can lie (like you just did, having absolutely no knowledge about all the Venezuelans) and innocent people could end up in a concentration camp.

I will repeat: Our Constitution guarantees due process so that liars cannot send innocent people to concentration camps for life.

If you have evidence, you would use the court system. You are no using the court system because you do not have evidence. You are doing what fascist regimes do. At least come out and admit it.

They are not being put on trial for a crime. They are illegal immigrants who are members of TdA. Venezuela wouldn't take them back, so they ended up in El Salvador.
I read that now Venezuela is taking them back, so the issue is moot.

So much misinformation. Are you having trouble keeping the facts in your head?

Here is a question for you: If they were sent to El Salvador only because Maduro wouldn't take them, please explain why a flight of Venezuelans had to be stopped by the Supreme Court on Saturday morning.

We don't know where the flight of Venezuelans was headed.

We don't know for sure because there is no transparency ever. The administration will say whatever lie is convenient.

But the Venezuelans were treated exactly as the first time around, coerced into signing papers affirming that they were in Tren de Aragua, and told repeatedly that they were about to be sent to CECOT.

Seems like their lawyers, the ACLU, and the Supreme Court believed it.