AMA stepping in since CDC is muzzled

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Congratulations, Robert F Kennedy,
America’s new HHS Secretary.

Please get the poison out of our food.

Yeah, that's the FDA, not HHS.
Wrong move.

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Anonymous wrote:Congratulations, Robert F Kennedy,
America’s new HHS Secretary.

Please get the poison out of our food.

Good luck getting "healthy foods" to be a priority with this administration. Remember what they did to Michelle Obama when she suggested healthy foods for school lunches?

The GOP fully supports agribusiness and all that entails, including highly processed foods as foundational.

Michelle Obama's lunches were simply low-calorie. We are trying to get a total overhaul of the American food system. To be more like Europe's. Dems are all Europhiles, so I wonder why you all are so pro-factory/USA Big Food all of a sudden?

DP. She planted the largest vegetable garden in White House history. ?! Why aren’t you protesting the felon poisoning your water with pfas? He just rescinded limits 2 weeks ago, so we’re literally getting further from Europe. Also, if he wanted is to bring us closer to Europe in any way, why is taking moves out of dictator playbooks, and focusing on European-style democracy?

This part. "But seed oils...."

The cognitive dissonance is real.

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Anonymous wrote:What a disaster. The AMA is actually even more incompetent and corrupt than the CDC.

The AMA has even less credibility than the CDC right now. It has taken positions on political issues, but tried to cloak them in the guise of The ScienceTM.

This post shows just how far gone a large portion of the US population is. Science is science. There is always skepticism, which is why research is always performed to hone data to draw conclusions. That people actually believe science is political is brainwashed rhetoric. If you don't want to believe science then the alternative is to believe narcissistic leaders like Trump, Musk and RFK, Jr.

Where do you have your faith? In dispassionate scientific research or dear leader?

Let me remind you of rhetoric that democrats have been chanting like religious zealots:
TRUST THE SCIENCE!
DON’T QUESTION THE SCIENCE!
SCIENCE BY CONSENSUS!
DON’T BE A SCIENCE DENIER!

That is the literal definition of politicizing science.

Exactly.

Hm, what do you think it is about the rhetoric on the right that leads to this response?

Having the audacity to question the science.

[Anonymous]

You have to understand something to question it effectively. Otherwise it's just pouting -- throwing crap to see if it sticks.

[Anonymous]

The fact that there are so many comments disputing Science here proves how ignorant so many Americans have become. SAD!

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Anonymous wrote:If you're anti-science, then don't come to my ER. Just don't.

Stay home and get healed on your knees, chin to the sky in prayer.

Everyone is anti-science until they need that science to save them and stay alive. And then as soon as they're healed, "thank god!" is what they say. No, thank science, you ignoramus.

No reason to be hateful towards religious people. My church had strict social distancing during the pandemic and most people eagerly got the vaccine. My elderly aunt and uncle are devout Catholics (and Democrats if it matters) and only started going back to in-person Mass in 2023. Oh, and my uncle was a prominent cardiologist before retiring.

We're not all anti-science evangelicals.

practicing social distancing and getting the vaccine are not "anti science" - no reason for you to be defensive

Social distancing was 1000% anti-science. Fauci admitted he pulled it out of his azz.

That anti science rhetoric caused more harm than good.

It is also anti science to demand that healthy young people take a vaccine that conveys zero benefits.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The fact that there are so many comments disputing Science here proves how ignorant so many Americans have become. SAD!

This anti-science woo woo to right wing passage is a huge part of why Trump won. Like it or not.

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Anonymous wrote:If you're anti-science, then don't come to my ER. Just don't.

Stay home and get healed on your knees, chin to the sky in prayer.

Everyone is anti-science until they need that science to save them and stay alive. And then as soon as they're healed, "thank god!" is what they say. No, thank science, you ignoramus.

No reason to be hateful towards religious people. My church had strict social distancing during the pandemic and most people eagerly got the vaccine. My elderly aunt and uncle are devout Catholics (and Democrats if it matters) and only started going back to in-person Mass in 2023. Oh, and my uncle was a prominent cardiologist before retiring.

We're not all anti-science evangelicals.

practicing social distancing and getting the vaccine are not "anti science" - no reason for you to be defensive

Social distancing was 1000% anti-science. Fauci admitted he pulled it out of his azz.

That anti science rhetoric caused more harm than good.

It is also anti science to demand that healthy young people take a vaccine that conveys zero benefits.

Herd immunity is a huge benefit. I'm grateful for the vaccine and no one forced you to take it, so why, on earth are you still pouting about it years later?

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Anonymous wrote:What a disaster. The AMA is actually even more incompetent and corrupt than the CDC.

The AMA has even less credibility than the CDC right now. It has taken positions on political issues, but tried to cloak them in the guise of The ScienceTM.

This post shows just how far gone a large portion of the US population is. Science is science. There is always skepticism, which is why research is always performed to hone data to draw conclusions. That people actually believe science is political is brainwashed rhetoric. If you don't want to believe science then the alternative is to believe narcissistic leaders like Trump, Musk and RFK, Jr.

Where do you have your faith? In dispassionate scientific research or dear leader?

Let me remind you of rhetoric that democrats have been chanting like religious zealots:
TRUST THE SCIENCE!
DON’T QUESTION THE SCIENCE!
SCIENCE BY CONSENSUS!
DON’T BE A SCIENCE DENIER!

That is the literal definition of politicizing science.

I have a degree in science and this is exactly why people don’t trust scientists anymore.

Science used to be about questioning and verifying.

During Covid, our leading public health officials shut down any opposing viewpoints. The censorship was appalling and eye-opening.

We need to allow for opposing viewpoints in the public sphere and that isn’t happening.

Because there were no credible science based arguments! We shouldn’t care about opposition from people unqualified to have an opinion, and the fact that we gave them the time of day at all is a sign of how far we have fallen.

Would you like to give some YouTube conspiracy theorist morons with opinions about the shape of the Earth positions at NASA? Maybe take their “opposition” into account?

Lmao.

Do you remember the Great Barrington protocol? It was the voices of scientists who opposed the overly aggressive shutdowns. It was widely censored, so maybe you didn’t get to explore what they had to say.

Do you remember when people infected with COVID begged for the COVID vaccine when it was too late?

I do.

-Healthcare worker.

Could have given them regeneron.

We did a ton when it worked and when we were able to get it to them on time for it to be effective. Anything else?

Remdesivir killed a lot of people.

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/remdesivir-tied-54-lower-risk-death-among-hospitalized-covid-patients

And masks stopped transmission

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you're anti-science, then don't come to my ER. Just don't.

Stay home and get healed on your knees, chin to the sky in prayer.

Everyone is anti-science until they need that science to save them and stay alive. And then as soon as they're healed, "thank god!" is what they say. No, thank science, you ignoramus.

No reason to be hateful towards religious people. My church had strict social distancing during the pandemic and most people eagerly got the vaccine. My elderly aunt and uncle are devout Catholics (and Democrats if it matters) and only started going back to in-person Mass in 2023. Oh, and my uncle was a prominent cardiologist before retiring.

We're not all anti-science evangelicals.

practicing social distancing and getting the vaccine are not "anti science" - no reason for you to be defensive

Social distancing was 1000% anti-science. Fauci admitted he pulled it out of his azz.

That anti science rhetoric caused more harm than good.

It is also anti science to demand that healthy young people take a vaccine that conveys zero benefits.

I didn't know this was 1000% anti-science?

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10446910/#abstract1

The more stringent SDMs such as stay-at-home orders, restrictions on mass gatherings and closures were estimated to be most effective at reducing SARS-CoV-2 transmission. Most studies included in this review suggested that combinations of SDMs successfully slowed or even stopped SARS-CoV-2 transmission in the community. However, individual effects and optimal combinations of interventions, as well as the optimal timing for particular measures, require further investigation.

6 ft came from years of research on influenza/droplet transmission (it's been a general practice in hospitals during flu season prior to the politizaiton during COVID), but no it isn't as effective on COVID which can be airborne in certain circumstances particularly when ventilation is poor or in a small room or when speaking/singing loudly, for which most of the population was without prior immunity in the early years, and for which some people are superspreaders.

If you want to talk about science, pull research studies, and talk about science.

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Anonymous wrote:What a disaster. The AMA is actually even more incompetent and corrupt than the CDC.

The AMA has even less credibility than the CDC right now. It has taken positions on political issues, but tried to cloak them in the guise of The ScienceTM.

This post shows just how far gone a large portion of the US population is. Science is science. There is always skepticism, which is why research is always performed to hone data to draw conclusions. That people actually believe science is political is brainwashed rhetoric. If you don't want to believe science then the alternative is to believe narcissistic leaders like Trump, Musk and RFK, Jr.

Where do you have your faith? In dispassionate scientific research or dear leader?

Let me remind you of rhetoric that democrats have been chanting like religious zealots:
TRUST THE SCIENCE!
DON’T QUESTION THE SCIENCE!
SCIENCE BY CONSENSUS!
DON’T BE A SCIENCE DENIER!

That is the literal definition of politicizing science.

I have a degree in science and this is exactly why people don’t trust scientists anymore.

Science used to be about questioning and verifying.

During Covid, our leading public health officials shut down any opposing viewpoints. The censorship was appalling and eye-opening.

We need to allow for opposing viewpoints in the public sphere and that isn’t happening.

Because there were no credible science based arguments! We shouldn’t care about opposition from people unqualified to have an opinion, and the fact that we gave them the time of day at all is a sign of how far we have fallen.

Would you like to give some YouTube conspiracy theorist morons with opinions about the shape of the Earth positions at NASA? Maybe take their “opposition” into account?

Lmao.

Do you remember the Great Barrington protocol? It was the voices of scientists who opposed the overly aggressive shutdowns. It was widely censored, so maybe you didn’t get to explore what they had to say.

Do you remember when people infected with COVID begged for the COVID vaccine when it was too late?

I do.

-Healthcare worker.

Could have given them regeneron.

We did a ton when it worked and when we were able to get it to them on time for it to be effective. Anything else?

Remdesivir killed a lot of people.

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/remdesivir-tied-54-lower-risk-death-among-hospitalized-covid-patients

And masks stopped transmission

Yep, this was published by Mass General Hospital early in the pandemic

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2768533

And here's a large randomized control trial showing masks work.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9036942/

But yes, it does matter if masks are worn correctly, are good quality well fitting medical grade vs. a cloth mask worn around your chin.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you're anti-science, then don't come to my ER. Just don't.

Stay home and get healed on your knees, chin to the sky in prayer.

Everyone is anti-science until they need that science to save them and stay alive. And then as soon as they're healed, "thank god!" is what they say. No, thank science, you ignoramus.

No reason to be hateful towards religious people. My church had strict social distancing during the pandemic and most people eagerly got the vaccine. My elderly aunt and uncle are devout Catholics (and Democrats if it matters) and only started going back to in-person Mass in 2023. Oh, and my uncle was a prominent cardiologist before retiring.

We're not all anti-science evangelicals.

practicing social distancing and getting the vaccine are not "anti science" - no reason for you to be defensive

Social distancing was 1000% anti-science. Fauci admitted he pulled it out of his azz.

That anti science rhetoric caused more harm than good.

It is also anti science to demand that healthy young people take a vaccine that conveys zero benefits.

Herd immunity is a huge benefit. I'm grateful for the vaccine and no one forced you to take it, so why, on earth are you still pouting about it years later?

A vaccine that neither stops transmission or disease will never contribute to herd immunity.

JFC, this is what I mean by pretending to be “all about the science!”

[Anonymous]

The vaccine prevented deaths and hospitalizations you dumb shit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you're anti-science, then don't come to my ER. Just don't.

Stay home and get healed on your knees, chin to the sky in prayer.

Everyone is anti-science until they need that science to save them and stay alive. And then as soon as they're healed, "thank god!" is what they say. No, thank science, you ignoramus.

No reason to be hateful towards religious people. My church had strict social distancing during the pandemic and most people eagerly got the vaccine. My elderly aunt and uncle are devout Catholics (and Democrats if it matters) and only started going back to in-person Mass in 2023. Oh, and my uncle was a prominent cardiologist before retiring.

We're not all anti-science evangelicals.

practicing social distancing and getting the vaccine are not "anti science" - no reason for you to be defensive

Social distancing was 1000% anti-science. Fauci admitted he pulled it out of his azz.

That anti science rhetoric caused more harm than good.

It is also anti science to demand that healthy young people take a vaccine that conveys zero benefits.

I didn't know this was 1000% anti-science?

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10446910/#abstract1

The more stringent SDMs such as stay-at-home orders, restrictions on mass gatherings and closures were estimated to be most effective at reducing SARS-CoV-2 transmission. Most studies included in this review suggested that combinations of SDMs successfully slowed or even stopped SARS-CoV-2 transmission in the community. However, individual effects and optimal combinations of interventions, as well as the optimal timing for particular measures, require further investigation.

6 ft came from years of research on influenza/droplet transmission (it's been a general practice in hospitals during flu season prior to the politizaiton during COVID), but no it isn't as effective on COVID which can be airborne in certain circumstances particularly when ventilation is poor or in a small room or when speaking/singing loudly, for which most of the population was without prior immunity in the early years, and for which some people are superspreaders.

If you want to talk about science, pull research studies, and talk about science.

Covid is airborne and not droplets! There is your first mistake. Droplets settle rapidly and don’t travel distances. If Covid was droplets that would work.

BUT IT IS AIRBORNE. Surgical masks don’t stop airborne transmission. Social distancing doesn’t stop transmission.

Trust the science!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The vaccine prevented deaths and hospitalizations you dumb shit.

Don’t move the goalposts. The statement was herd immunity.