AMA stepping in since CDC is muzzled

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Anonymous wrote:What a disaster. The AMA is actually even more incompetent and corrupt than the CDC.


The AMA has even less credibility than the CDC right now. It has taken positions on political issues, but tried to cloak them in the guise of The ScienceTM.


This post shows just how far gone a large portion of the US population is. Science is science. There is always skepticism, which is why research is always performed to hone data to draw conclusions. That people actually believe science is political is brainwashed rhetoric. If you don't want to believe science then the alternative is to believe narcissistic leaders like Trump, Musk and RFK, Jr.

Where do you have your faith? In dispassionate scientific research or dear leader?


Let me remind you of rhetoric that democrats have been chanting like religious zealots:
TRUST THE SCIENCE!
DON’T QUESTION THE SCIENCE!
SCIENCE BY CONSENSUS!
DON’T BE A SCIENCE DENIER!

That is the literal definition of politicizing science.


I have a degree in science and this is exactly why people don’t trust scientists anymore.

Science used to be about questioning and verifying.

During Covid, our leading public health officials shut down any opposing viewpoints. The censorship was appalling and eye-opening.

We need to allow for opposing viewpoints in the public sphere and that isn’t happening.


Because there were no credible science based arguments! We shouldn’t care about opposition from people unqualified to have an opinion, and the fact that we gave them the time of day at all is a sign of how far we have fallen.

Would you like to give some YouTube conspiracy theorist morons with opinions about the shape of the Earth positions at NASA? Maybe take their “opposition” into account?

Lmao.


Do you remember the Great Barrington protocol? It was the voices of scientists who opposed the overly aggressive shutdowns. It was widely censored, so maybe you didn’t get to explore what they had to say.


Do you remember when people infected with COVID begged for the COVID vaccine when it was too late?

I do.

-Healthcare worker.
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Anonymous wrote:What a disaster. The AMA is actually even more incompetent and corrupt than the CDC.


The AMA has even less credibility than the CDC right now. It has taken positions on political issues, but tried to cloak them in the guise of The ScienceTM.


This post shows just how far gone a large portion of the US population is. Science is science. There is always skepticism, which is why research is always performed to hone data to draw conclusions. That people actually believe science is political is brainwashed rhetoric. If you don't want to believe science then the alternative is to believe narcissistic leaders like Trump, Musk and RFK, Jr.

Where do you have your faith? In dispassionate scientific research or dear leader?


Let me remind you of rhetoric that democrats have been chanting like religious zealots:
TRUST THE SCIENCE!
DON’T QUESTION THE SCIENCE!
SCIENCE BY CONSENSUS!
DON’T BE A SCIENCE DENIER!

That is the literal definition of politicizing science.


I have a degree in science and this is exactly why people don’t trust scientists anymore.

Science used to be about questioning and verifying.

During Covid, our leading public health officials shut down any opposing viewpoints. The censorship was appalling and eye-opening.

We need to allow for opposing viewpoints in the public sphere and that isn’t happening.


During Covid, the opposing viewpoints amounted to "trust me, bro".


Show me the data that supported the ridiculous Covid vaccine mandates for kids to attend public schools in Los Angeles, NYC and DC.

I know for a fact that you won’t be able to find any because it never existed.

Those local public health officials implemented unnecessary COVID vaccine mandates for KIDS without any data to back up that decision.

Once public health officials started creating public health policy based on ‘Trust me, bro’ they lost public trust.


Sure, "trust me, bro". You sound like a problem solver (and a whiner).
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Anonymous wrote:What a disaster. The AMA is actually even more incompetent and corrupt than the CDC.


The AMA has even less credibility than the CDC right now. It has taken positions on political issues, but tried to cloak them in the guise of The ScienceTM.


This post shows just how far gone a large portion of the US population is. Science is science. There is always skepticism, which is why research is always performed to hone data to draw conclusions. That people actually believe science is political is brainwashed rhetoric. If you don't want to believe science then the alternative is to believe narcissistic leaders like Trump, Musk and RFK, Jr.

Where do you have your faith? In dispassionate scientific research or dear leader?


Let me remind you of rhetoric that democrats have been chanting like religious zealots:
TRUST THE SCIENCE!
DON’T QUESTION THE SCIENCE!
SCIENCE BY CONSENSUS!
DON’T BE A SCIENCE DENIER!

That is the literal definition of politicizing science.

Exactly.



Nah. Most of us are educated enough to recognize that science is the process of asking questions, then asking more questions as we refine the answers and better understand the data. Maybe the PP misunderstood the chants.

People who are religious zealots often assume that other people are zealots too. Most of us are not that eager to have omnipotent, omniscient, authoritarian entities in our lives. We don’t treat view science like this or politicians. We live with the questions, the uncertainties, and the changes that go along with the process of science. Science is a process.
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Anonymous wrote:What a disaster. The AMA is actually even more incompetent and corrupt than the CDC.


The AMA has even less credibility than the CDC right now. It has taken positions on political issues, but tried to cloak them in the guise of The ScienceTM.


This post shows just how far gone a large portion of the US population is. Science is science. There is always skepticism, which is why research is always performed to hone data to draw conclusions. That people actually believe science is political is brainwashed rhetoric. If you don't want to believe science then the alternative is to believe narcissistic leaders like Trump, Musk and RFK, Jr.

Where do you have your faith? In dispassionate scientific research or dear leader?


Let me remind you of rhetoric that democrats have been chanting like religious zealots:
TRUST THE SCIENCE!
DON’T QUESTION THE SCIENCE!
SCIENCE BY CONSENSUS!
DON’T BE A SCIENCE DENIER!

That is the literal definition of politicizing science.


I have a degree in science and this is exactly why people don’t trust scientists anymore.

Science used to be about questioning and verifying.

During Covid, our leading public health officials shut down any opposing viewpoints. The censorship was appalling and eye-opening.

We need to allow for opposing viewpoints in the public sphere and that isn’t happening.


Because there were no credible science based arguments! We shouldn’t care about opposition from people unqualified to have an opinion, and the fact that we gave them the time of day at all is a sign of how far we have fallen.

Would you like to give some YouTube conspiracy theorist morons with opinions about the shape of the Earth positions at NASA? Maybe take their “opposition” into account?

Lmao.


Do you remember the Great Barrington protocol? It was the voices of scientists who opposed the overly aggressive shutdowns. It was widely censored, so maybe you didn’t get to explore what they had to say.


Do you remember when people infected with COVID begged for the COVID vaccine when it was too late?

I do.

-Healthcare worker.


Could have given them regeneron.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What a disaster. The AMA is actually even more incompetent and corrupt than the CDC.


The AMA has even less credibility than the CDC right now. It has taken positions on political issues, but tried to cloak them in the guise of The ScienceTM.


This post shows just how far gone a large portion of the US population is. Science is science. There is always skepticism, which is why research is always performed to hone data to draw conclusions. That people actually believe science is political is brainwashed rhetoric. If you don't want to believe science then the alternative is to believe narcissistic leaders like Trump, Musk and RFK, Jr.

Where do you have your faith? In dispassionate scientific research or dear leader?


Let me remind you of rhetoric that democrats have been chanting like religious zealots:
TRUST THE SCIENCE!
DON’T QUESTION THE SCIENCE!
SCIENCE BY CONSENSUS!
DON’T BE A SCIENCE DENIER!

That is the literal definition of politicizing science.


I have a degree in science and this is exactly why people don’t trust scientists anymore.

Science used to be about questioning and verifying.

During Covid, our leading public health officials shut down any opposing viewpoints. The censorship was appalling and eye-opening.

We need to allow for opposing viewpoints in the public sphere and that isn’t happening.


Because there were no credible science based arguments! We shouldn’t care about opposition from people unqualified to have an opinion, and the fact that we gave them the time of day at all is a sign of how far we have fallen.

Would you like to give some YouTube conspiracy theorist morons with opinions about the shape of the Earth positions at NASA? Maybe take their “opposition” into account?

Lmao.


Do you remember the Great Barrington protocol? It was the voices of scientists who opposed the overly aggressive shutdowns. It was widely censored, so maybe you didn’t get to explore what they had to say.


Do you remember when people infected with COVID begged for the COVID vaccine when it was too late?

I do.

-Healthcare worker.


Could have given them regeneron.


That was special at the time, only for the Trumpster and his inner circle. Even Herman Cain couldn't get it.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What a disaster. The AMA is actually even more incompetent and corrupt than the CDC.


The AMA has even less credibility than the CDC right now. It has taken positions on political issues, but tried to cloak them in the guise of The ScienceTM.


This post shows just how far gone a large portion of the US population is. Science is science. There is always skepticism, which is why research is always performed to hone data to draw conclusions. That people actually believe science is political is brainwashed rhetoric. If you don't want to believe science then the alternative is to believe narcissistic leaders like Trump, Musk and RFK, Jr.

Where do you have your faith? In dispassionate scientific research or dear leader?


Let me remind you of rhetoric that democrats have been chanting like religious zealots:
TRUST THE SCIENCE!
DON’T QUESTION THE SCIENCE!
SCIENCE BY CONSENSUS!
DON’T BE A SCIENCE DENIER!

That is the literal definition of politicizing science.


I have a degree in science and this is exactly why people don’t trust scientists anymore.

Science used to be about questioning and verifying.

During Covid, our leading public health officials shut down any opposing viewpoints. The censorship was appalling and eye-opening.

We need to allow for opposing viewpoints in the public sphere and that isn’t happening.


Because there were no credible science based arguments! We shouldn’t care about opposition from people unqualified to have an opinion, and the fact that we gave them the time of day at all is a sign of how far we have fallen.

Would you like to give some YouTube conspiracy theorist morons with opinions about the shape of the Earth positions at NASA? Maybe take their “opposition” into account?

Lmao.


Do you remember the Great Barrington protocol? It was the voices of scientists who opposed the overly aggressive shutdowns. It was widely censored, so maybe you didn’t get to explore what they had to say.


Do you remember when people infected with COVID begged for the COVID vaccine when it was too late?

I do.

-Healthcare worker.


Could have given them regeneron.


We did a ton when it worked and when we were able to get it to them on time for it to be effective. Anything else?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If you're anti-science, then don't come to my ER. Just don't.

Stay home and get healed on your knees, chin to the sky in prayer.

Everyone is anti-science until they need that science to save them and stay alive. And then as soon as they're healed, "thank god!" is what they say. No, thank science, you ignoramus.


+100
And don’t come to my medical clinic.

No science for you…. Then avoid anyone who’s in science.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Will AMA ever try to lower the cost of health care by increasing the number of available doctors? More residencies and medical schools?


Ok, you clearly have no idea how the system works.
It’s the federal government that controls number of residency spots, not the AMA.
Medical schools keep same number of spots as residency spots so all graduates can get trained.

If you want more doctors, tell your President Musk - oh wait, he’s slashing federal govt so number of spots will go down… he plans to replace your doctor with a machine.

In fact, get your diagnosis and treatment from X. He’s waiting for you there. X is the perfect place for all you anti-science folks…. You won’t run into any pesky science there and can get the kind of medical care you are asking for!
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What a disaster. The AMA is actually even more incompetent and corrupt than the CDC.


The AMA has even less credibility than the CDC right now. It has taken positions on political issues, but tried to cloak them in the guise of The ScienceTM.


This post shows just how far gone a large portion of the US population is. Science is science. There is always skepticism, which is why research is always performed to hone data to draw conclusions. That people actually believe science is political is brainwashed rhetoric. If you don't want to believe science then the alternative is to believe narcissistic leaders like Trump, Musk and RFK, Jr.

Where do you have your faith? In dispassionate scientific research or dear leader?


Let me remind you of rhetoric that democrats have been chanting like religious zealots:
TRUST THE SCIENCE!
DON’T QUESTION THE SCIENCE!
SCIENCE BY CONSENSUS!
DON’T BE A SCIENCE DENIER!

That is the literal definition of politicizing science.


I have a degree in science and this is exactly why people don’t trust scientists anymore.

Science used to be about questioning and verifying.

During Covid, our leading public health officials shut down any opposing viewpoints. The censorship was appalling and eye-opening.

We need to allow for opposing viewpoints in the public sphere and that isn’t happening.


Because there were no credible science based arguments! We shouldn’t care about opposition from people unqualified to have an opinion, and the fact that we gave them the time of day at all is a sign of how far we have fallen.

Would you like to give some YouTube conspiracy theorist morons with opinions about the shape of the Earth positions at NASA? Maybe take their “opposition” into account?

Lmao.


Do you remember the Great Barrington protocol? It was the voices of scientists who opposed the overly aggressive shutdowns. It was widely censored, so maybe you didn’t get to explore what they had to say.


Do you remember when people infected with COVID begged for the COVID vaccine when it was too late?

I do.

-Healthcare worker.


Could have given them regeneron.


We did a ton when it worked and when we were able to get it to them on time for it to be effective. Anything else?


Remdesivir killed a lot of people.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What a disaster. The AMA is actually even more incompetent and corrupt than the CDC.


The AMA has even less credibility than the CDC right now. It has taken positions on political issues, but tried to cloak them in the guise of The ScienceTM.


This post shows just how far gone a large portion of the US population is. Science is science. There is always skepticism, which is why research is always performed to hone data to draw conclusions. That people actually believe science is political is brainwashed rhetoric. If you don't want to believe science then the alternative is to believe narcissistic leaders like Trump, Musk and RFK, Jr.

Where do you have your faith? In dispassionate scientific research or dear leader?


Let me remind you of rhetoric that democrats have been chanting like religious zealots:
TRUST THE SCIENCE!
DON’T QUESTION THE SCIENCE!
SCIENCE BY CONSENSUS!
DON’T BE A SCIENCE DENIER!

That is the literal definition of politicizing science.


I have a degree in science and this is exactly why people don’t trust scientists anymore.

Science used to be about questioning and verifying.

During Covid, our leading public health officials shut down any opposing viewpoints. The censorship was appalling and eye-opening.

We need to allow for opposing viewpoints in the public sphere and that isn’t happening.


Because there were no credible science based arguments! We shouldn’t care about opposition from people unqualified to have an opinion, and the fact that we gave them the time of day at all is a sign of how far we have fallen.

Would you like to give some YouTube conspiracy theorist morons with opinions about the shape of the Earth positions at NASA? Maybe take their “opposition” into account?

Lmao.


Do you remember the Great Barrington protocol? It was the voices of scientists who opposed the overly aggressive shutdowns. It was widely censored, so maybe you didn’t get to explore what they had to say.


Do you remember when people infected with COVID begged for the COVID vaccine when it was too late?

I do.

-Healthcare worker.


Could have given them regeneron.


We did a ton when it worked and when we were able to get it to them on time for it to be effective. Anything else?


Remdesivir killed a lot of people.


Source?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What a disaster. The AMA is actually even more incompetent and corrupt than the CDC.


The AMA has even less credibility than the CDC right now. It has taken positions on political issues, but tried to cloak them in the guise of The ScienceTM.


This post shows just how far gone a large portion of the US population is. Science is science. There is always skepticism, which is why research is always performed to hone data to draw conclusions. That people actually believe science is political is brainwashed rhetoric. If you don't want to believe science then the alternative is to believe narcissistic leaders like Trump, Musk and RFK, Jr.

Where do you have your faith? In dispassionate scientific research or dear leader?


Let me remind you of rhetoric that democrats have been chanting like religious zealots:
TRUST THE SCIENCE!
DON’T QUESTION THE SCIENCE!
SCIENCE BY CONSENSUS!
DON’T BE A SCIENCE DENIER!

That is the literal definition of politicizing science.


I have a degree in science and this is exactly why people don’t trust scientists anymore.

Science used to be about questioning and verifying.

During Covid, our leading public health officials shut down any opposing viewpoints. The censorship was appalling and eye-opening.

We need to allow for opposing viewpoints in the public sphere and that isn’t happening.


Because there were no credible science based arguments! We shouldn’t care about opposition from people unqualified to have an opinion, and the fact that we gave them the time of day at all is a sign of how far we have fallen.

Would you like to give some YouTube conspiracy theorist morons with opinions about the shape of the Earth positions at NASA? Maybe take their “opposition” into account?

Lmao.


Do you remember the Great Barrington protocol? It was the voices of scientists who opposed the overly aggressive shutdowns. It was widely censored, so maybe you didn’t get to explore what they had to say.


Do you remember when people infected with COVID begged for the COVID vaccine when it was too late?

I do.

-Healthcare worker.


Could have given them regeneron.


We did a ton when it worked and when we were able to get it to them on time for it to be effective. Anything else?


Remdesivir killed a lot of people.


https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/remdesivir-tied-54-lower-risk-death-among-hospitalized-covid-patients
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What a disaster. The AMA is actually even more incompetent and corrupt than the CDC.


The AMA has even less credibility than the CDC right now. It has taken positions on political issues, but tried to cloak them in the guise of The ScienceTM.


This post shows just how far gone a large portion of the US population is. Science is science. There is always skepticism, which is why research is always performed to hone data to draw conclusions. That people actually believe science is political is brainwashed rhetoric. If you don't want to believe science then the alternative is to believe narcissistic leaders like Trump, Musk and RFK, Jr.

Where do you have your faith? In dispassionate scientific research or dear leader?


Let me remind you of rhetoric that democrats have been chanting like religious zealots:
TRUST THE SCIENCE!
DON’T QUESTION THE SCIENCE!
SCIENCE BY CONSENSUS!
DON’T BE A SCIENCE DENIER!

That is the literal definition of politicizing science.

Exactly.



Nah. Most of us are educated enough to recognize that science is the process of asking questions, then asking more questions as we refine the answers and better understand the data. Maybe the PP misunderstood the chants.

People who are religious zealots often assume that other people are zealots too. Most of us are not that eager to have omnipotent, omniscient, authoritarian entities in our lives. We don’t treat view science like this or politicians. We live with the questions, the uncertainties, and the changes that go along with the process of science. Science is a process.


This.

Any medical practitioner that keeps up with the journals knows that protocols change as new studies emerge.

What was standard of care ten years ago might no longer be standard of care ten years from now.

The people who silenced dissent during Covid are equivalent to religious zealots.

Yes, science is a process. And science allows for disagreement and debate.
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Anonymous wrote:What a disaster. The AMA is actually even more incompetent and corrupt than the CDC.


The AMA has even less credibility than the CDC right now. It has taken positions on political issues, but tried to cloak them in the guise of The ScienceTM.


This post shows just how far gone a large portion of the US population is. Science is science. There is always skepticism, which is why research is always performed to hone data to draw conclusions. That people actually believe science is political is brainwashed rhetoric. If you don't want to believe science then the alternative is to believe narcissistic leaders like Trump, Musk and RFK, Jr.

Where do you have your faith? In dispassionate scientific research or dear leader?



If you actually believe that none of the "mainstream" science has been/is being politicized, you're not only brainwashed, but incredibly naive & woefully ignorant.


And who are you?

I would trust mainstream science including my doctor over some internet rando who dares to label themselves "Commonsense." Tell us who you are and we'll see if you have the qualifications to back up your big words.


That’s your choice. I mean, my pediatrician still pushed Covid vaccines on my kids at every visit despite the fact that there is ZERO data to back up that stance.

If it’s not clear to you that Big Pharma has an over-sized hold on our public health institutions, then you have not been paying attention.


My pediatrician office is very pro vaccine....but have always treated covid boosters as a choice. Same with annual flu shot.... it's always an opt in
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What a disaster. The AMA is actually even more incompetent and corrupt than the CDC.


The AMA has even less credibility than the CDC right now. It has taken positions on political issues, but tried to cloak them in the guise of The ScienceTM.


This post shows just how far gone a large portion of the US population is. Science is science. There is always skepticism, which is why research is always performed to hone data to draw conclusions. That people actually believe science is political is brainwashed rhetoric. If you don't want to believe science then the alternative is to believe narcissistic leaders like Trump, Musk and RFK, Jr.

Where do you have your faith? In dispassionate scientific research or dear leader?


Let me remind you of rhetoric that democrats have been chanting like religious zealots:
TRUST THE SCIENCE!
DON’T QUESTION THE SCIENCE!
SCIENCE BY CONSENSUS!
DON’T BE A SCIENCE DENIER!

That is the literal definition of politicizing science.


I have a degree in science and this is exactly why people don’t trust scientists anymore.

Science used to be about questioning and verifying.

During Covid, our leading public health officials shut down any opposing viewpoints. The censorship was appalling and eye-opening.

We need to allow for opposing viewpoints in the public sphere and that isn’t happening.


During Covid, the opposing viewpoints amounted to "trust me, bro".


The censorship came from the trump administration....
People got scared and it caused a big reaction...
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:What a disaster. The AMA is actually even more incompetent and corrupt than the CDC.


The AMA has even less credibility than the CDC right now. It has taken positions on political issues, but tried to cloak them in the guise of The ScienceTM.


So?
You don't have to listen to them then.

I'm happy they have stepped into the breach left by Musk


These are dangerous days.

My son warned me to stock up on food and toilet paper because the CDC will not control the bird flu pandemic, which is coming.

Do you see any eggs in your supermarket? My supermarket has no eggs.

What's next. I'm not sure where to go, what to do, it is utter chaos, far worse than the first Trump administration.

The lunatics are running the asylum!!!!!
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