The Truth About How Christians Should Think About Trump

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Anonymous wrote:the Episcopalian church's liberal beliefs are not widely accepted by the majority of Christians, they are a cult sect


What liberal beliefs are you referring to, and what is your source of your assertion?
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Anonymous wrote:the Episcopalian church's liberal beliefs are not widely accepted by the majority of Christians, they are a cult sect


Oh please

The Episcopal Church is a well-established, mainstream Christian denomination with a long history, a large membership, and a recognized hierarchy, unlike a cult which typically involves a charismatic leader, strict control over members' lives, and isolation from outside society; the Episcopal Church is part of the wider Anglican Communion, further demonstrating its legitimacy within Christianity.

It has democratic governing structure and all major policy shifts are voted on.

Children have been protected for decades through rigorous policies for priests and volunteers who work with Episcopalian minors

It is the opposite of a sect.


Sorry should say opposite of a cult
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Anonymous wrote:It’s not the truth, it’s just one lady’s opinion.


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People here have a hard time differentiating between opinion and fact, they also think their opinion is the “correct” opinion.


DP

As an Episcopalian, I take issue with dismissing the Rt Rev Mariann Edgar Budde“s homily as “just one lady’s opinion”.

Apart from the sexist undertones, Bishop Budde serves as spiritual leader for 88 Episcopal congregations and 10 Episcopal schools in the District of Columbia and four Maryland counties. She also serves as the chair and president of the Protestant Episcopal Cathedral Foundation, which oversees the ministries of the Washington National Cathedral and Cathedral schools.

Many Episcopalians in our diocese have expressed gratitude that she represented our collective values well and spoke humbly about the need for mercy for those who are likely to suffer greatly under the current administration.

There will certainly be some Episcopalians (cradle Episcopalians and more conservative leaning) but I have only heard appreciation for her both from the pulpit and from other parishioners.

She is extremely disciplined, learned and humble in her faith walk. She has a passion for social justice and showing God’s love to all. Her opinion cannot seriously be dismissed so flippantly.

She spoke for many of us.



None of this is relevant to the fact that it’s still just one lady’s opinion.

You just happen to agree with it.


NP. It's not her opinion, it's the Gospel.


The Gospel is the BIBLE and only the words written in the Bible. It is NOT a some random lady, religious or not, spouting her opinion of current events.
That’s like saying everything Tammy Faye Bakker said was the Gospel.


Everything she said is based on the words in the BIBLE and only the BIBLE.


Did Jesus write the Bible? I do not believe so. I believe it was put together a few years after the Crucifixion and Resurrection.
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Anonymous wrote:It’s not the truth, it’s just one lady’s opinion.


+1

People here have a hard time differentiating between opinion and fact, they also think their opinion is the “correct” opinion.


DP

As an Episcopalian, I take issue with dismissing the Rt Rev Mariann Edgar Budde“s homily as “just one lady’s opinion”.

Apart from the sexist undertones, Bishop Budde serves as spiritual leader for 88 Episcopal congregations and 10 Episcopal schools in the District of Columbia and four Maryland counties. She also serves as the chair and president of the Protestant Episcopal Cathedral Foundation, which oversees the ministries of the Washington National Cathedral and Cathedral schools.

Many Episcopalians in our diocese have expressed gratitude that she represented our collective values well and spoke humbly about the need for mercy for those who are likely to suffer greatly under the current administration.

There will certainly be some Episcopalians (cradle Episcopalians and more conservative leaning) but I have only heard appreciation for her both from the pulpit and from other parishioners.

She is extremely disciplined, learned and humble in her faith walk. She has a passion for social justice and showing God’s love to all. Her opinion cannot seriously be dismissed so flippantly.

She spoke for many of us.



None of this is relevant to the fact that it’s still just one lady’s opinion.

You just happen to agree with it.


NP. It's not her opinion, it's the Gospel.


The Gospel is the BIBLE and only the words written in the Bible. It is NOT a some random lady, religious or not, spouting her opinion of current events.
That’s like saying everything Tammy Faye Bakker said was the Gospel.


Everything she said is based on the words in the BIBLE and only the BIBLE.


Did Jesus write the Bible? I do not believe so. I believe it was put together a few years after the Crucifixion and Resurrection.


So you are disputing the validity of the teachings from the Bible? You have a better source of Jesus' words?
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Anonymous wrote:It’s not the truth, it’s just one lady’s opinion.


+1

People here have a hard time differentiating between opinion and fact, they also think their opinion is the “correct” opinion.


DP

As an Episcopalian, I take issue with dismissing the Rt Rev Mariann Edgar Budde“s homily as “just one lady’s opinion”.

Apart from the sexist undertones, Bishop Budde serves as spiritual leader for 88 Episcopal congregations and 10 Episcopal schools in the District of Columbia and four Maryland counties. She also serves as the chair and president of the Protestant Episcopal Cathedral Foundation, which oversees the ministries of the Washington National Cathedral and Cathedral schools.

Many Episcopalians in our diocese have expressed gratitude that she represented our collective values well and spoke humbly about the need for mercy for those who are likely to suffer greatly under the current administration.

There will certainly be some Episcopalians (cradle Episcopalians and more conservative leaning) but I have only heard appreciation for her both from the pulpit and from other parishioners.

She is extremely disciplined, learned and humble in her faith walk. She has a passion for social justice and showing God’s love to all. Her opinion cannot seriously be dismissed so flippantly.

She spoke for many of us.



None of this is relevant to the fact that it’s still just one lady’s opinion.

You just happen to agree with it.


NP. It's not her opinion, it's the Gospel.


The Gospel is the BIBLE and only the words written in the Bible. It is NOT a some random lady, religious or not, spouting her opinion of current events.
That’s like saying everything Tammy Faye Bakker said was the Gospel.


Everything she said is based on the words in the BIBLE and only the BIBLE.


Did Jesus write the Bible? I do not believe so. I believe it was put together a few years after the Crucifixion and Resurrection.


So you are disputing the validity of the teachings from the Bible? You have a better source of Jesus' words?


Should we take literally everything in the Bible? Might the time(s) in which it was written be reflected in the Bible? Those who wrote the Bible were not perfect.
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Anonymous wrote:It’s not the truth, it’s just one lady’s opinion.


+1

People here have a hard time differentiating between opinion and fact, they also think their opinion is the “correct” opinion.


DP

As an Episcopalian, I take issue with dismissing the Rt Rev Mariann Edgar Budde“s homily as “just one lady’s opinion”.

Apart from the sexist undertones, Bishop Budde serves as spiritual leader for 88 Episcopal congregations and 10 Episcopal schools in the District of Columbia and four Maryland counties. She also serves as the chair and president of the Protestant Episcopal Cathedral Foundation, which oversees the ministries of the Washington National Cathedral and Cathedral schools.

Many Episcopalians in our diocese have expressed gratitude that she represented our collective values well and spoke humbly about the need for mercy for those who are likely to suffer greatly under the current administration.

There will certainly be some Episcopalians (cradle Episcopalians and more conservative leaning) but I have only heard appreciation for her both from the pulpit and from other parishioners.

She is extremely disciplined, learned and humble in her faith walk. She has a passion for social justice and showing God’s love to all. Her opinion cannot seriously be dismissed so flippantly.

She spoke for many of us.



None of this is relevant to the fact that it’s still just one lady’s opinion.

You just happen to agree with it.


NP. It's not her opinion, it's the Gospel.


The Gospel is the BIBLE and only the words written in the Bible. It is NOT a some random lady, religious or not, spouting her opinion of current events.
That’s like saying everything Tammy Faye Bakker said was the Gospel.


Everything she said is based on the words in the BIBLE and only the BIBLE.


Did Jesus write the Bible? I do not believe so. I believe it was put together a few years after the Crucifixion and Resurrection.



DP

Agree that Jesus did not write the Bible and 90% of the Gospels are based on oral storytelling passed down verbally over generations recollecting what Jesus said and did long after he died. The oral stories were gradually written down by various authors. Much later, the texts were selected and compiled into a canon by early Christian councils. Most notably the Council of Rome in 382 AD determined which books were considered divinely inspired and should be included in the Bible.

Old Testament is also believed to be derived from oral storytelling, meaning the stories were passed down through generations of ancient Israelite communities by word of mouth before being written down. The OT was written primarily in Hebrew, while the New Testament was written in Greek and Aramaic.

Nonetheless: despite the evolution of the Bible in its current form being complex — There are many OT and NT references to showing mercy for foreigners as well as other forms of vulnerable people.

The OT repeatedly instructs Israelites to show compassion towards foreigners, especially considering their own history as refugees in Egypt. The concept of "loving the stranger" is a core principle in the Bible, demonstrating God's concern for all people regardless of their origin.

Leviticus 19:33-34 "When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. Treat the foreigner residing among you as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt."

Deuteronomy 10:18-19:
"He upholds the cause of the fatherless and the widow, and loves the sojourner, giving him food and clothing. So love the sojourner, for you were sojourners in Egypt."

Zechariah 7:9-10:
"Thus says the Lord of hosts, 'Render true judgments, show kindness and mercy to one another, do not oppress the widow, the fatherless, the sojourner, or the poor, and let none of you devise evil against another in your heart'".

New Testament
Matthew 25:35-40 (welcoming the stranger as welcoming Christ),

Hebrews 13:2 (not forgetting to show hospitality to strangers), and

Luke 10:25-37 (the parable of the Good Samaritan, demonstrating care for someone in need regardless of their background)

Luke 6:36
Be merciful, as your Father is merciful:
Luke 6:36 encourages us to extend the same compassion that God shows to us.
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Anonymous wrote:It’s not the truth, it’s just one lady’s opinion.


+1

People here have a hard time differentiating between opinion and fact, they also think their opinion is the “correct” opinion.


DP

As an Episcopalian, I take issue with dismissing the Rt Rev Mariann Edgar Budde“s homily as “just one lady’s opinion”.

Apart from the sexist undertones, Bishop Budde serves as spiritual leader for 88 Episcopal congregations and 10 Episcopal schools in the District of Columbia and four Maryland counties. She also serves as the chair and president of the Protestant Episcopal Cathedral Foundation, which oversees the ministries of the Washington National Cathedral and Cathedral schools.

Many Episcopalians in our diocese have expressed gratitude that she represented our collective values well and spoke humbly about the need for mercy for those who are likely to suffer greatly under the current administration.

There will certainly be some Episcopalians (cradle Episcopalians and more conservative leaning) but I have only heard appreciation for her both from the pulpit and from other parishioners.

She is extremely disciplined, learned and humble in her faith walk. She has a passion for social justice and showing God’s love to all. Her opinion cannot seriously be dismissed so flippantly.

She spoke for many of us.



None of this is relevant to the fact that it’s still just one lady’s opinion.

You just happen to agree with it.


NP. It's not her opinion, it's the Gospel.


The Gospel is the BIBLE and only the words written in the Bible. It is NOT a some random lady, religious or not, spouting her opinion of current events.
That’s like saying everything Tammy Faye Bakker said was the Gospel.


Everything she said is based on the words in the BIBLE and only the BIBLE.


Did Jesus write the Bible? I do not believe so. I believe it was put together a few years after the Crucifixion and Resurrection.



DP

Agree that Jesus did not write the Bible and 90% of the Gospels are based on oral storytelling passed down verbally over generations recollecting what Jesus said and did long after he died. The oral stories were gradually written down by various authors. Much later, the texts were selected and compiled into a canon by early Christian councils. Most notably the Council of Rome in 382 AD determined which books were considered divinely inspired and should be included in the Bible.

Old Testament is also believed to be derived from oral storytelling, meaning the stories were passed down through generations of ancient Israelite communities by word of mouth before being written down. The OT was written primarily in Hebrew, while the New Testament was written in Greek and Aramaic.

Nonetheless: despite the evolution of the Bible in its current form being complex — There are many OT and NT references to showing mercy for foreigners as well as other forms of vulnerable people.

The OT repeatedly instructs Israelites to show compassion towards foreigners, especially considering their own history as refugees in Egypt. The concept of "loving the stranger" is a core principle in the Bible, demonstrating God's concern for all people regardless of their origin.

Leviticus 19:33-34 "When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. Treat the foreigner residing among you as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt."

Deuteronomy 10:18-19:
"He upholds the cause of the fatherless and the widow, and loves the sojourner, giving him food and clothing. So love the sojourner, for you were sojourners in Egypt."

Zechariah 7:9-10:
"Thus says the Lord of hosts, 'Render true judgments, show kindness and mercy to one another, do not oppress the widow, the fatherless, the sojourner, or the poor, and let none of you devise evil against another in your heart'".

New Testament
Matthew 25:35-40 (welcoming the stranger as welcoming Christ),

Hebrews 13:2 (not forgetting to show hospitality to strangers), and

Luke 10:25-37 (the parable of the Good Samaritan, demonstrating care for someone in need regardless of their background)

Luke 6:36
Be merciful, as your Father is merciful:
Luke 6:36 encourages us to extend the same compassion that God shows to us.


Love the references!
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s not the truth, it’s just one lady’s opinion.


+1

People here have a hard time differentiating between opinion and fact, they also think their opinion is the “correct” opinion.


DP

As an Episcopalian, I take issue with dismissing the Rt Rev Mariann Edgar Budde“s homily as “just one lady’s opinion”.

Apart from the sexist undertones, Bishop Budde serves as spiritual leader for 88 Episcopal congregations and 10 Episcopal schools in the District of Columbia and four Maryland counties. She also serves as the chair and president of the Protestant Episcopal Cathedral Foundation, which oversees the ministries of the Washington National Cathedral and Cathedral schools.

Many Episcopalians in our diocese have expressed gratitude that she represented our collective values well and spoke humbly about the need for mercy for those who are likely to suffer greatly under the current administration.

There will certainly be some Episcopalians (cradle Episcopalians and more conservative leaning) but I have only heard appreciation for her both from the pulpit and from other parishioners.

She is extremely disciplined, learned and humble in her faith walk. She has a passion for social justice and showing God’s love to all. Her opinion cannot seriously be dismissed so flippantly.

She spoke for many of us.



None of this is relevant to the fact that it’s still just one lady’s opinion.

You just happen to agree with it.


NP. It's not her opinion, it's the Gospel.


The Gospel is the BIBLE and only the words written in the Bible. It is NOT a some random lady, religious or not, spouting her opinion of current events.
That’s like saying everything Tammy Faye Bakker said was the Gospel.


Everything she said is based on the words in the BIBLE and only the BIBLE.


Did Jesus write the Bible? I do not believe so. I believe it was put together a few years after the Crucifixion and Resurrection.



DP

Agree that Jesus did not write the Bible and 90% of the Gospels are based on oral storytelling passed down verbally over generations recollecting what Jesus said and did long after he died. The oral stories were gradually written down by various authors. Much later, the texts were selected and compiled into a canon by early Christian councils. Most notably the Council of Rome in 382 AD determined which books were considered divinely inspired and should be included in the Bible.

Old Testament is also believed to be derived from oral storytelling, meaning the stories were passed down through generations of ancient Israelite communities by word of mouth before being written down. The OT was written primarily in Hebrew, while the New Testament was written in Greek and Aramaic.

Nonetheless: despite the evolution of the Bible in its current form being complex — There are many OT and NT references to showing mercy for foreigners as well as other forms of vulnerable people.

The OT repeatedly instructs Israelites to show compassion towards foreigners, especially considering their own history as refugees in Egypt. The concept of "loving the stranger" is a core principle in the Bible, demonstrating God's concern for all people regardless of their origin.

Leviticus 19:33-34 "When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. Treat the foreigner residing among you as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt."

Deuteronomy 10:18-19:
"He upholds the cause of the fatherless and the widow, and loves the sojourner, giving him food and clothing. So love the sojourner, for you were sojourners in Egypt."

Zechariah 7:9-10:
"Thus says the Lord of hosts, 'Render true judgments, show kindness and mercy to one another, do not oppress the widow, the fatherless, the sojourner, or the poor, and let none of you devise evil against another in your heart'".

New Testament
Matthew 25:35-40 (welcoming the stranger as welcoming Christ),

Hebrews 13:2 (not forgetting to show hospitality to strangers), and

Luke 10:25-37 (the parable of the Good Samaritan, demonstrating care for someone in need regardless of their background)

Luke 6:36
Be merciful, as your Father is merciful:
Luke 6:36 encourages us to extend the same compassion that God shows to us.


Love the references!


And not a matter of opinion!
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Anonymous wrote:It’s not the truth, it’s just one lady’s opinion.


+1

People here have a hard time differentiating between opinion and fact, they also think their opinion is the “correct” opinion.


DP

As an Episcopalian, I take issue with dismissing the Rt Rev Mariann Edgar Budde“s homily as “just one lady’s opinion”.

Apart from the sexist undertones, Bishop Budde serves as spiritual leader for 88 Episcopal congregations and 10 Episcopal schools in the District of Columbia and four Maryland counties. She also serves as the chair and president of the Protestant Episcopal Cathedral Foundation, which oversees the ministries of the Washington National Cathedral and Cathedral schools.

Many Episcopalians in our diocese have expressed gratitude that she represented our collective values well and spoke humbly about the need for mercy for those who are likely to suffer greatly under the current administration.

There will certainly be some Episcopalians (cradle Episcopalians and more conservative leaning) but I have only heard appreciation for her both from the pulpit and from other parishioners.

She is extremely disciplined, learned and humble in her faith walk. She has a passion for social justice and showing God’s love to all. Her opinion cannot seriously be dismissed so flippantly.

She spoke for many of us.



None of this is relevant to the fact that it’s still just one lady’s opinion.

You just happen to agree with it.


NP. It's not her opinion, it's the Gospel.


The Gospel is the BIBLE and only the words written in the Bible. It is NOT a some random lady, religious or not, spouting her opinion of current events.
That’s like saying everything Tammy Faye Bakker said was the Gospel.


Everything she said is based on the words in the BIBLE and only the BIBLE.


Did Jesus write the Bible? I do not believe so. I believe it was put together a few years after the Crucifixion and Resurrection.



DP

Agree that Jesus did not write the Bible and 90% of the Gospels are based on oral storytelling passed down verbally over generations recollecting what Jesus said and did long after he died. The oral stories were gradually written down by various authors. Much later, the texts were selected and compiled into a canon by early Christian councils. Most notably the Council of Rome in 382 AD determined which books were considered divinely inspired and should be included in the Bible.

Old Testament is also believed to be derived from oral storytelling, meaning the stories were passed down through generations of ancient Israelite communities by word of mouth before being written down. The OT was written primarily in Hebrew, while the New Testament was written in Greek and Aramaic.

Nonetheless: despite the evolution of the Bible in its current form being complex — There are many OT and NT references to showing mercy for foreigners as well as other forms of vulnerable people.

The OT repeatedly instructs Israelites to show compassion towards foreigners, especially considering their own history as refugees in Egypt. The concept of "loving the stranger" is a core principle in the Bible, demonstrating God's concern for all people regardless of their origin.

Leviticus 19:33-34 "When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. Treat the foreigner residing among you as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt."

Deuteronomy 10:18-19:
"He upholds the cause of the fatherless and the widow, and loves the sojourner, giving him food and clothing. So love the sojourner, for you were sojourners in Egypt."

Zechariah 7:9-10:
"Thus says the Lord of hosts, 'Render true judgments, show kindness and mercy to one another, do not oppress the widow, the fatherless, the sojourner, or the poor, and let none of you devise evil against another in your heart'".

New Testament
Matthew 25:35-40 (welcoming the stranger as welcoming Christ),

Hebrews 13:2 (not forgetting to show hospitality to strangers), and

Luke 10:25-37 (the parable of the Good Samaritan, demonstrating care for someone in need regardless of their background)

Luke 6:36
Be merciful, as your Father is merciful:
Luke 6:36 encourages us to extend the same compassion that God shows to us.


Too bad Trump is an atheist. the bad kind. Anyone can be bad. Part of Trumps evil is using religious people for his own ends.
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Anonymous wrote:the Episcopalian church's liberal beliefs are not widely accepted by the majority of Christians, they are a cult sect


What liberal beliefs are you referring to, and what is your source of your assertion?


You don't know? It started with Bishop Robinson and has been downhill ever since. Go to wiki and read. The E church is dying. The New York headquarters had to be somd due to financial problems. Congregations are dying out. Fewer than 1.5 million are left and most no longer attend services
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Anonymous wrote:It’s not the truth, it’s just one lady’s opinion.


+1

People here have a hard time differentiating between opinion and fact, they also think their opinion is the “correct” opinion.


DP

As an Episcopalian, I take issue with dismissing the Rt Rev Mariann Edgar Budde“s homily as “just one lady’s opinion”.

Apart from the sexist undertones, Bishop Budde serves as spiritual leader for 88 Episcopal congregations and 10 Episcopal schools in the District of Columbia and four Maryland counties. She also serves as the chair and president of the Protestant Episcopal Cathedral Foundation, which oversees the ministries of the Washington National Cathedral and Cathedral schools.

Many Episcopalians in our diocese have expressed gratitude that she represented our collective values well and spoke humbly about the need for mercy for those who are likely to suffer greatly under the current administration.

There will certainly be some Episcopalians (cradle Episcopalians and more conservative leaning) but I have only heard appreciation for her both from the pulpit and from other parishioners.

She is extremely disciplined, learned and humble in her faith walk. She has a passion for social justice and showing God’s love to all. Her opinion cannot seriously be dismissed so flippantly.

She spoke for many of us.



None of this is relevant to the fact that it’s still just one lady’s opinion.

You just happen to agree with it.


NP. It's not her opinion, it's the Gospel.


The Gospel is the BIBLE and only the words written in the Bible. It is NOT a some random lady, religious or not, spouting her opinion of current events.
That’s like saying everything Tammy Faye Bakker said was the Gospel.


Everything she said is based on the words in the BIBLE and only the BIBLE.


Did Jesus write the Bible? I do not believe so. I believe it was put together a few years after the Crucifixion and Resurrection.


So you are disputing the validity of the teachings from the Bible? You have a better source of Jesus' words?


Should we take literally everything in the Bible? Might the time(s) in which it was written be reflected in the Bible? Those who wrote the Bible were not perfect.


That’s quite different than “did Jesus write the Bible.” People have interpreted the Bible in different ways of course. That’s why we have denominations. But it is wildly accepted that the accounts from the gospels are Jesus’ teachings. That’s not controversial.
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Anonymous wrote:the Episcopalian church's liberal beliefs are not widely accepted by the majority of Christians, they are a cult sect


What liberal beliefs are you referring to, and what is your source of your assertion?


You don't know? It started with Bishop Robinson and has been downhill ever since. Go to wiki and read. The E church is dying. The New York headquarters had to be somd due to financial problems. Congregations are dying out. Fewer than 1.5 million are left and most no longer attend services


None of this tells me what the "liberal beliefs" are that you were referred to in the previous post. What are those beliefs, specifically, and how are they "liberal"?
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Anonymous wrote:the Episcopalian church's liberal beliefs are not widely accepted by the majority of Christians, they are a cult sect


What liberal beliefs are you referring to, and what is your source of your assertion?


You don't know? It started with Bishop Robinson and has been downhill ever since. Go to wiki and read. The E church is dying. The New York headquarters had to be somd due to financial problems. Congregations are dying out. Fewer than 1.5 million are left and most no longer attend services


None of this tells me what the "liberal beliefs" are that you were referred to in the previous post. What are those beliefs, specifically, and how are they "liberal"?


DO

PP is referring to the election and consecration of Gene Robinson as the first openly gay bishop in the Episcopal Church in 2003. It was controversial. The election caused a rift in the church, with some members leaving to form the Anglican Church in North America.

However he or she is wrong in that the controversy started earlier in the 70s.

In 1973, the House of Bishops approved the ordination of women, but the resolution failed to pass. In 1974, a group of women known as the Philadelphia Eleven were ordained as priests by retired bishops and the acting Bishop of Costa Rica. In 1976, church leaders clarified that women could become priests and bishops. In 2006, Katharine Jefferts Schori became the first woman to serve as presiding bishop of the Episcopal Church.

I am proud of the Episcopal church for embracing the potential of women and GLBQT people as leaders. Some of the best spiritual leaders I have had have been women and gay people.

Our episcopal church is thriving with many new members and people of all ages. It is a loving, welcoming and thoughtful community.

I respectfully disagree with PPs take.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I am waiting for the Catholic Bishops, particularly the new one in DC, to call out Trump for Trump's treatment of immigrants and for Trump's support of the death penalty. Maybe, they can even threaten to withhold communion from Catholics who serve in the Trump Administration. [Not holding my breath.]


Meanwhile, The Catholic Bishops are holding their breath, waiting for Trump to die so Vance can take over.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:the Episcopalian church's liberal beliefs are not widely accepted by the majority of Christians, they are a cult sect


What liberal beliefs are you referring to, and what is your source of your assertion?


You don't know? It started with Bishop Robinson and has been downhill ever since. Go to wiki and read. The E church is dying. The New York headquarters had to be somd due to financial problems. Congregations are dying out. Fewer than 1.5 million are left and most no longer attend services


None of this tells me what the "liberal beliefs" are that you were referred to in the previous post. What are those beliefs, specifically, and how are they "liberal"?


DO

PP is referring to the election and consecration of Gene Robinson as the first openly gay bishop in the Episcopal Church in 2003. It was controversial. The election caused a rift in the church, with some members leaving to form the Anglican Church in North America.

However he or she is wrong in that the controversy started earlier in the 70s.

In 1973, the House of Bishops approved the ordination of women, but the resolution failed to pass. In 1974, a group of women known as the Philadelphia Eleven were ordained as priests by retired bishops and the acting Bishop of Costa Rica. In 1976, church leaders clarified that women could become priests and bishops. In 2006, Katharine Jefferts Schori became the first woman to serve as presiding bishop of the Episcopal Church.

I am proud of the Episcopal church for embracing the potential of women and GLBQT people as leaders. Some of the best spiritual leaders I have had have been women and gay people.

Our episcopal church is thriving with many new members and people of all ages. It is a loving, welcoming and thoughtful community.

I respectfully disagree with PPs take.


YOUR episcopal church may be thriving, but as a whole, congregations are thinning out, right? It's happening to many denominations.
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