The Truth About How Christians Should Think About Trump

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not the truth, it’s just one lady’s opinion.


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People here have a hard time differentiating between opinion and fact, they also think their opinion is the “correct” opinion.


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As an Episcopalian, I take issue with dismissing the Rt Rev Mariann Edgar Budde“s homily as “just one lady’s opinion”.

Apart from the sexist undertones, Bishop Budde serves as spiritual leader for 88 Episcopal congregations and 10 Episcopal schools in the District of Columbia and four Maryland counties. She also serves as the chair and president of the Protestant Episcopal Cathedral Foundation, which oversees the ministries of the Washington National Cathedral and Cathedral schools.

Many Episcopalians in our diocese have expressed gratitude that she represented our collective values well and spoke humbly about the need for mercy for those who are likely to suffer greatly under the current administration.

There will certainly be some Episcopalians (cradle Episcopalians and more conservative leaning) but I have only heard appreciation for her both from the pulpit and from other parishioners.

She is extremely disciplined, learned and humble in her faith walk. She has a passion for social justice and showing God’s love to all. Her opinion cannot seriously be dismissed so flippantly.

She spoke for many of us.



None of this is relevant to the fact that it’s still just one lady’s opinion.

You just happen to agree with it.


NP. It's not her opinion, it's the Gospel.


The Gospel is the BIBLE and only the words written in the Bible. It is NOT a some random lady, religious or not, spouting her opinion of current events.
That’s like saying everything Tammy Faye Bakker said was the Gospel.


Everything she said is based on the words in the BIBLE and only the BIBLE.


Did Jesus write the Bible? I do not believe so. I believe it was put together a few years after the Crucifixion and Resurrection.


So you are disputing the validity of the teachings from the Bible? You have a better source of Jesus' words?


Should we take literally everything in the Bible? Might the time(s) in which it was written be reflected in the Bible? Those who wrote the Bible were not perfect.


That’s quite different than “did Jesus write the Bible.” People have interpreted the Bible in different ways of course. That’s why we have denominations. But it is wildly accepted that the accounts from the gospels are Jesus’ teachings. That’s not controversial.


It is controversial. Whatever you want to call them (gospels) or source (bible), it's all made up fiction. Jesus and Santa are a lot alike. In the case of Santa, he's based on a combination of real people, folklore, and traditions that evolved over centuries. The historical evidence for Jesus is scant, but just like Santa, a series of folklore, stories, and traditions evolved over centuries. And just like in modern times how people have their favorite Santa/Christmas movie or story, modern christians pick and choose which stories and interpretations they prefer.

The only real difference is that most people grow up and understand that Santa is not real, yet they still believe in Jesus.
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Anonymous wrote:It’s not the truth, it’s just one lady’s opinion.


+1

People here have a hard time differentiating between opinion and fact, they also think their opinion is the “correct” opinion.


DP

As an Episcopalian, I take issue with dismissing the Rt Rev Mariann Edgar Budde“s homily as “just one lady’s opinion”.

Apart from the sexist undertones, Bishop Budde serves as spiritual leader for 88 Episcopal congregations and 10 Episcopal schools in the District of Columbia and four Maryland counties. She also serves as the chair and president of the Protestant Episcopal Cathedral Foundation, which oversees the ministries of the Washington National Cathedral and Cathedral schools.

Many Episcopalians in our diocese have expressed gratitude that she represented our collective values well and spoke humbly about the need for mercy for those who are likely to suffer greatly under the current administration.

There will certainly be some Episcopalians (cradle Episcopalians and more conservative leaning) but I have only heard appreciation for her both from the pulpit and from other parishioners.

She is extremely disciplined, learned and humble in her faith walk. She has a passion for social justice and showing God’s love to all. Her opinion cannot seriously be dismissed so flippantly.

She spoke for many of us.



None of this is relevant to the fact that it’s still just one lady’s opinion.

You just happen to agree with it.


NP. It's not her opinion, it's the Gospel.


The Gospel is the BIBLE and only the words written in the Bible. It is NOT a some random lady, religious or not, spouting her opinion of current events.
That’s like saying everything Tammy Faye Bakker said was the Gospel.


Everything she said is based on the words in the BIBLE and only the BIBLE.


Did Jesus write the Bible? I do not believe so. I believe it was put together a few years after the Crucifixion and Resurrection.


So you are disputing the validity of the teachings from the Bible? You have a better source of Jesus' words?


Should we take literally everything in the Bible? Might the time(s) in which it was written be reflected in the Bible? Those who wrote the Bible were not perfect.


That’s quite different than “did Jesus write the Bible.” People have interpreted the Bible in different ways of course. That’s why we have denominations. But it is wildly accepted that the accounts from the gospels are Jesus’ teachings. That’s not controversial.


It is controversial. Whatever you want to call them (gospels) or source (bible), it's all made up fiction. Jesus and Santa are a lot alike. In the case of Santa, he's based on a combination of real people, folklore, and traditions that evolved over centuries. The historical evidence for Jesus is scant, but just like Santa, a series of folklore, stories, and traditions evolved over centuries. And just like in modern times how people have their favorite Santa/Christmas movie or story, modern christians pick and choose which stories and interpretations they prefer.

The only real difference is that most people grow up and understand that Santa is not real, yet they still believe in Jesus.


Correct-- it's also quite amazing that so many people don't see the parallels, and continue believing in God well past childhood. But then, Santa only brings toys, while God promises everlasting life.
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